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The groover Danbury 11 Jun 24 10.15pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly I'm currently employed in the Social Services sector. There seems to be some prevalent sickness amongst workers who've had covid vaccines. Not all of them, but a high percentage nonetheless (I would guess around 50% of those vaccinated and in middle-age seem to be highly susceptible to ailments and fatigue. Obviously, working in the Care sector, this puts limitations on the services we offer. Most of the workers seem to think there's a link with Covid Vaccines and prevalent sickness/conditions. Obviously the sample group is miniscule, and no real conclusions can be drawn. But therein lies the big problem. Monitoring of after effects of those vaccinated was conveniently not undertaken No monitoring, no data,....no liability,...no evidence Or was it because they also got covid? Chicken and egg.
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Danbury 11 Jun 24 10.15pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

I'm currently employed in the Social Services sector. There seems to be some prevalent sickness amongst workers who've had covid vaccines. Not all of them, but a high percentage nonetheless (I would guess around 50% of those vaccinated and in middle-age seem to be highly susceptible to ailments and fatigue.
Obviously, working in the Care sector, this puts limitations on the services we offer.
Most of the workers seem to think there's a link with Covid Vaccines and prevalent sickness/conditions.

Obviously the sample group is miniscule, and no real conclusions can be drawn. But therein lies the big problem. Monitoring of after effects of those vaccinated was conveniently not undertaken

No monitoring, no data,....no liability,...no evidence

Or was it because they also got covid?

Chicken and egg.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Jun 24 10.32pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Indeed. We don't need profiteers making hay out of these situations. [Link] Big problem. Big profits. Big profits, big investments and big taxes. Excess profits, windfall taxes. Hay feeds animals. Animals feed us. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 11 Jun 24 10.32pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Indeed. We don't need profiteers making hay out of these situations.

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Big problem. Big profits. Big profits, big investments and big taxes. Excess profits, windfall taxes. Hay feeds animals. Animals feed us.

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Teddy Eagle 11 Jun 24 10.39pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Big problem. Big profits. Big profits, big investments and big taxes. Excess profits, windfall taxes. Hay feeds animals. Animals feed us. When it comes to monetisation there's a clear winner.
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11 Jun 24 10.39pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Big problem. Big profits. Big profits, big investments and big taxes. Excess profits, windfall taxes. Hay feeds animals. Animals feed us.

When it comes to monetisation there's a clear winner.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Jun 24 10.40pm
Originally posted by The groover Yep, I saw a document supposedly from the US CDC. When I checked the data it had been changed as had the headings. The final heading was 'seriously affected by Vaccination'. This had been changed to Deaths! I challenged them but my comment was deleted! It was later removed but the damage had been done. Another one stated that thousands had been made sterile by the vaccine when at that time it had only been given to those over 60!!!! The main man behind the anti vax movement is the tw@t that claimed the MMR jab was causing autism. He makes millions in donations. He was the "Doctor" supporting the case in the USA and the UK against the makers of the MMR jab. The case collapsed when it was realised that there was no scientific evidence to back up the claim. But again the damage was done with millions believing it. Hence the rise in MMR cases. My Daughter has a friend who is an AV and various ailments were rife in the local schools due to the number of unvaccinated kids. She told my daughter she was really worried. I told her to say 'If only there was a vaccine your daughter could have' It’s a huge problem. People here will twist themselves into knots trying to deny it but people will die because of this. Shamefully I believe the guy you describe is British and who ran into legal jeopardy here so escaped to the US and has become a celebrity. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 11 Jun 24 10.40pm

Originally posted by The groover

Yep, I saw a document supposedly from the US CDC. When I checked the data it had been changed as had the headings. The final heading was 'seriously affected by Vaccination'. This had been changed to Deaths!

I challenged them but my comment was deleted!

It was later removed but the damage had been done.

Another one stated that thousands had been made sterile by the vaccine when at that time it had only been given to those over 60!!!!

The main man behind the anti vax movement is the tw@t that claimed the MMR jab was causing autism. He makes millions in donations.

He was the "Doctor" supporting the case in the USA and the UK against the makers of the MMR jab. The case collapsed when it was realised that there was no scientific evidence to back up the claim. But again the damage was done with millions believing it.

Hence the rise in MMR cases.

My Daughter has a friend who is an AV and various ailments were rife in the local schools due to the number of unvaccinated kids.

She told my daughter she was really worried. I told her to say 'If only there was a vaccine your daughter could have'

It’s a huge problem. People here will twist themselves into knots trying to deny it but people will die because of this. Shamefully I believe the guy you describe is British and who ran into legal jeopardy here so escaped to the US and has become a celebrity.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Jun 24 10.51pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly I'm currently employed in the Social Services sector. There seems to be some prevalent sickness amongst workers who've had covid vaccines. Not all of them, but a high percentage nonetheless (I would guess around 50% of those vaccinated and in middle-age seem to be highly susceptible to ailments and fatigue. Obviously, working in the Care sector, this puts limitations on the services we offer. Most of the workers seem to think there's a link with Covid Vaccines and prevalent sickness/conditions. Obviously the sample group is miniscule, and no real conclusions can be drawn. But therein lies the big problem. Monitoring of after effects of those vaccinated was conveniently not undertaken No monitoring, no data,....no liability,...no evidence On what basis do you claim there is no monitoring? I think there is a lot. Anyone suffering adverse reactions will be recorded and the data analysed. Lethargy and fatigue do seem to be more common at the moment but that’s just my own empirical observation. Someone somewhere will be collecting the data. To ascribe that to the vaccines, without any evidence, makes no sense at all. It seems much more likely to be a longer term impact of a Covid infection than a vaccination which reduces the effect of Covid. Or could be something else completely. I think we will find out, when the data tells us. Not via rumours. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 11 Jun 24 10.51pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Obviously the sample group is miniscule, and no real conclusions can be drawn. But therein lies the big problem. Monitoring of after effects of those vaccinated was conveniently not undertaken

No monitoring, no data,....no liability,...no evidence

On what basis do you claim there is no monitoring?

I think there is a lot. Anyone suffering adverse reactions will be recorded and the data analysed. Lethargy and fatigue do seem to be more common at the moment but that’s just my own empirical observation. Someone somewhere will be collecting the data. To ascribe that to the vaccines, without any evidence, makes no sense at all. It seems much more likely to be a longer term impact of a Covid infection than a vaccination which reduces the effect of Covid. Or could be something else completely.

I think we will find out, when the data tells us. Not via rumours.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 12 Jun 24 6.22pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle On what basis do you claim there is no monitoring? I think there is a lot. Anyone suffering adverse reactions will be recorded and the data analysed. Lethargy and fatigue do seem to be more common at the moment but that’s just my own empirical observation. Someone somewhere will be collecting the data. To ascribe that to the vaccines, without any evidence, makes no sense at all. It seems much more likely to be a longer term impact of a Covid infection than a vaccination which reduces the effect of Covid. Or could be something else completely. I think we will find out, when the data tells us. Not via rumours. There won't be any usable data. 'Pre-existing conditions' is the caveat. "Part of our monitoring role includes reviewing reports of suspected side effects. Any member of the public or health professional can submit suspected side effects through the Yellow Card scheme. The nature of Yellow Card reporting means that reported events are not always proven side effects." (Gov.uk) Nothing can be proven by the Yellow Card scheme. I disengage, I turn the page.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

On what basis do you claim there is no monitoring?

I think we will find out, when the data tells us. Not via rumours.

There won't be any usable data. 'Pre-existing conditions' is the caveat.
"Part of our monitoring role includes reviewing reports of suspected side effects. Any member of the public or health professional can submit suspected side effects through the Yellow Card scheme. The nature of Yellow Card reporting means that reported events are not always proven side effects." (Gov.uk)

Nothing can be proven by the Yellow Card scheme.

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Jun 24 11.22pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly There won't be any usable data. 'Pre-existing conditions' is the caveat. "Part of our monitoring role includes reviewing reports of suspected side effects. Any member of the public or health professional can submit suspected side effects through the Yellow Card scheme. The nature of Yellow Card reporting means that reported events are not always proven side effects." (Gov.uk) Nothing can be proven by the Yellow Card scheme. Pre existing conditions may well be the reason. Which the data will reveal once enough is collected. Of course some will always know better. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 12 Jun 24 11.22pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Nothing can be proven by the Yellow Card scheme.

Pre existing conditions may well be the reason. Which the data will reveal once enough is collected.

Of course some will always know better.

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Teddy Eagle 12 Jun 24 11.33pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Pre existing conditions may well be the reason. Which the data will reveal once enough is collected. Of course some will always know better. Sure, like we were told to wait for the grooming gang report. How did that work out?
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12 Jun 24 11.33pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Pre existing conditions may well be the reason. Which the data will reveal once enough is collected.

Of course some will always know better.

Sure, like we were told to wait for the grooming gang report. How did that work out?

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Jun 24 9.57am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Sure, like we were told to wait for the grooming gang report. How did that work out? Enquiries and reports will always take time if they are going to be meaningful and not just knee jerk reactions to popular perceptions. That doesn’t mean nothing is being done in the meantime, although you might not know too much about it given the way some tabloids present things. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 13 Jun 24 9.57am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Sure, like we were told to wait for the grooming gang report. How did that work out?

Enquiries and reports will always take time if they are going to be meaningful and not just knee jerk reactions to popular perceptions. That doesn’t mean nothing is being done in the meantime, although you might not know too much about it given the way some tabloids present things.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Jun 24 1.30pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Sure, like we were told to wait for the grooming gang report. How did that work out? The Irish government are starting an enquiry and are setting its limits currently. Everyone will get a chance to contribute to the survey. The question is: How do you think the Irish government dealt with the COVID 19 pandemic? The choice of answers are: Really well, Excellently, Perfectly: Please lock us down again. They are already patting themselves on the back and paying money to themselves and their mates for the privilege of giving us the answers that they've already decided in a few year's time. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Jun 24 1.30pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Sure, like we were told to wait for the grooming gang report. How did that work out?

The Irish government are starting an enquiry and are setting its limits currently. Everyone will get a chance to contribute to the survey.
The question is: How do you think the Irish government dealt with the COVID 19 pandemic?
The choice of answers are: Really well, Excellently, Perfectly: Please lock us down again.
They are already patting themselves on the back and paying money to themselves and their mates for the privilege of giving us the answers that they've already decided in a few year's time.

Red and Blue Army!

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eaglesdare 13 Jun 24 2.19pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC The Irish government are starting an enquiry and are setting its limits currently. Everyone will get a chance to contribute to the survey. The question is: How do you think the Irish government dealt with the COVID 19 pandemic? The choice of answers are: Really well, Excellently, Perfectly: Please lock us down again. They are already patting themselves on the back and paying money to themselves and their mates for the privilege of giving us the answers that they've already decided in a few year's time. As soon as the ridiculous covid certs came out in ireland I effed off to england. It was pycological warfare at the time. Not allowed into a cafe, bar restaurant or cinema. And even with the cert you had to have a 10-15 euro meal. How ridiculous was that? I was able to get a fake cert but hated using it. And most Irish people just went along with it so they could have their pints.
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13 Jun 24 2.19pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

As soon as the ridiculous covid certs came out in ireland I effed off to england.

It was pycological warfare at the time. Not allowed into a cafe, bar restaurant or cinema. And even with the cert you had to have a 10-15 euro meal. How ridiculous was that? I was able to get a fake cert but hated using it.

And most Irish people just went along with it so they could have their pints.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Jun 24 9.29am
Originally posted by eaglesdare As soon as the ridiculous covid certs came out in ireland I effed off to england. It was pycological warfare at the time. Not allowed into a cafe, bar restaurant or cinema. And even with the cert you had to have a 10-15 euro meal. How ridiculous was that? I was able to get a fake cert but hated using it. And most Irish people just went along with it so they could have their pints. What a wonderful example of how to be a responsible, law abiding member of society you are! Maybe, like Edward Colston, your home city will erect a statue to honour your contribution to society. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 14 Jun 24 9.29am

Originally posted by eaglesdare

As soon as the ridiculous covid certs came out in ireland I effed off to england.

And most Irish people just went along with it so they could have their pints.

What a wonderful example of how to be a responsible, law abiding member of society you are!

Maybe, like Edward Colston, your home city will erect a statue to honour your contribution to society.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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