Of course they have rights. They had the right to make choices. No one forced them in one direction or the other. What they didn’t have was the unfettered right to do whatever they wanted to do. That only exists where anarchy lives.

Alongside rights come responsibilities. You cannot have one and ignore the other.

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Neither of us grant the other rights. We all do that for everyone. We also demand responsibilities. Via the law.

Some countries do have mandatory voting, so it can be done. Democracy doesn’t collapse if some abstain but would if many did.

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Not at all. People have the right to choose. They don’t have a right to do whatever they like. None of us have such a right.

The government does agree with that. It’s why they make laws.

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Not sure that’s true. There are some pretty determined anti-vaxxers around determined to spread misinformation and encourage non compliance.

Just look at the way some have monetised fear on YouTube and other video platforms.

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Business needs the profit motive to respond as quickly and effectively as they did. We would not have achieved the result we did with Covid without it.

We don’t need the profit motive in the hands of avaricious scumbags trying to get rich from the misfortune of others. They are no better than black marketeers in wartime.

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Yep, I saw a document supposedly from the US CDC. When I checked the data it had been changed as had the headings. The final heading was 'seriously affected by Vaccination'. This had been changed to Deaths!

I challenged them but my comment was deleted!

It was later removed but the damage had been done.

Another one stated that thousands had been made sterile by the vaccine when at that time it had only been given to those over 60!!!!

The main man behind the anti vax movement is the tw@t that claimed the MMR jab was causing autism. He makes millions in donations.

He was the "Doctor" supporting the case in the USA and the UK against the makers of the MMR jab. The case collapsed when it was realised that there was no scientific evidence to back up the claim. But again the damage was done with millions believing it.

Hence the rise in MMR cases.

My Daughter has a friend who is an AV and various ailments were rife in the local schools due to the number of unvaccinated kids.

She told my daughter she was really worried. I told her to say 'If only there was a vaccine your daughter could have'