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Stirlingsays Flag 12 Dec 20 12.03am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Scotus rejects the Texas suit.

That's the legal route finished.

Republicans, and especially the activists are very very angry.

I hope this starts the pathway towards a peaceful secession. If the Republicans are interested in a future where conservatism survives they have no choice.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 12 Dec 20 12.46am

The suit was essentially Trump's minions asking for millions of votes in other states to be rejected. The circumvention of democracy would've been something to be legitimately angry about. I can't see secession occurring. The Republican party will simply fine tune its message, which wouldn't be a bad thing. All elections are inevitably closer than people expect them to be so they won't be throwing in the towel, nor should they.

Now dance! [Link]

 

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matthau Flag South Croydon 12 Dec 20 3.43am Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

Ignore the court rule

It’s gonna happen, trump will be re elected. 34/1 trump to win atm but 35/1 for trump to lose.

 

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matthau Flag South Croydon 12 Dec 20 3.45am Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

I don’t know why you lot keep talking about republicans and democrats. It has nothing to do with that. That’s why some of the republicans aren’t speaking by up. They’re comprised and paid off. This is the immediate team behind trump vs the high corruption. In both parties

But ultimately was always ever about human trafficking and putting an end to endless wars

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 Dec 20 7.28am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Scotus rejects the Texas suit.

That's the legal route finished.

Republicans, and especially the activists are very very angry.

I hope this starts the pathway towards a peaceful secession. If the Republicans are interested in a future where conservatism survives they have no choice.

The people who have a right to be angry are those in both parties who believe in democracy.

This was a farce. A blatant attempt to truly steal an election which not only deserved to fail, but deserves to be condemned by everyone who treasures fairness above party politics.

The idea that the survival of conservatism trumps (pun intended) democracy will hopefully be exposed as the seditious act it truly represents.

This ought to close the book on the Trump era in such a way that it remains closed for ever and he leaves with a legacy of shame forever attached.

Whether that can be achieved in the USA of today will be a huge test for them. Let us hope that the decent people within the GOP come out of their bunkers and begin to speak out.

 


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DanH Flag SW2 12 Dec 20 7.51am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

I see this secession thing is something being touted from ‘dissident’ right wing internet places.

Imagine my shock.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 Dec 20 8.02am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

I see this secession thing is something being touted from ‘dissident’ right wing internet places.

Imagine my shock.

If it keeps them occupied it might turn out to be quite useful. That way the realists can pick up the pieces and get on with actually sorting out the mess.

Can you imagine the practical implications of something like that? It would make Brexit look like a picnic at a nursery.

 


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DanH Flag SW2 12 Dec 20 8.19am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by matthau

Ignore the court rule

It’s gonna happen, trump will be re elected. 34/1 trump to win atm but 35/1 for trump to lose.

Are these odds? If so I’ll put half of everything I have on both.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 12 Dec 20 8.27am

Originally posted by DanH

I see this secession thing is something being touted from ‘dissident’ right wing internet places.

Imagine my shock.

One minute they're adamant one state should be able to interfere in the affairs and elections of another (aka praying that the Supreme Court will go along with a coup), the next it's secession talk. You're got to laugh.

Besides, most states are effectively purple with substantial support for both parties (47% of Texan voters voted against Trump). It's a flounce at not being able to mentally deal with the election result. They're going nowhere and will instead fine tune their message as political parties of all stripes have to do over time.

Edited by BlueJay (12 Dec 2020 9.59am)

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 12 Dec 20 8.40am

Originally posted by matthau

Ignore the court rule

It’s gonna happen, trump will be re elected. 34/1 trump to win atm but 35/1 for trump to lose.

He's actually 1-35 to lose (35-1 against). As in if you bet a little over £100 on it, you'd get about three quid back on top if he loses.

Your bet is looking tremendously unlikely, but to the point where I almost admire you for sticking with it!

Edited by BlueJay (12 Dec 2020 9.18am)

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 12 Dec 20 8.48am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Scotus rejects the Texas suit.

That's the legal route finished.

Republicans, and especially the activists are very very angry.

I hope this starts the pathway towards a peaceful secession. If the Republicans are interested in a future where conservatism survives they have no choice.

They tried this back in the 1860's and had a civil war.

They say the winning side writes history and to some extent that is correct most people believe the civil war started over slavery, actually it was about State's rights versus the Federal government.

Slavery was one of the issues that the southern states felt the Federal government was interfering in but the parallels to Brexit are there it was about self determination and the right to leave the union.

Lincoln even said that to maintain the union he would accept slavery however once the fighting started there was no going back and so it then become about slavery.

By the way the majority of people who fought on the confederate side were poor farmers who didn't own slaves.

Anyway I don't see this happening as however fed up people are the only solution would be another civil war.

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 12 Dec 20 10.51am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

He's actually 1-35 to lose (35-1 against). As in if you bet a little over £100 on it, you'd get about three quid back on top if he loses.

Your bet is looking tremendously unlikely, but to the point where I almost admire you for sticking with it!

Edited by BlueJay (12 Dec 2020 9.18am)

Are there any odds for the number of executions Trump will authorise?

Say 10 executions performed, evens?


 

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