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Elpis In a pub 05 Feb 24 2.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Sansbup
There's usually one club that hits dreadful form in February and plummets. I guess 2024 is our year. There's usually one club that hits form in the run in and pulls away from the relegation scrap their fans thought was going to be a near thing .
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PatrickA London 05 Feb 24 2.36pm | |
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That old chestnut. Originally posted by m/k mick
Be careful what you wish for, Charlton?..anyone
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Feb 24 2.39pm | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
I’m honestly not being critical here, but the response exactly encapsulates what I was highlighting in my post. With respect I don't believe we can 'Airbrush' extenuating circumstances, one can present them for consideration and debate whilst of course recognising the challenges we face at the present time. One might state "Excuses", others might view them as "Reasons" etc etc.In the final analysis we are where we are and let us hope that our key players play a pivotal part to the end of the season. Edited by Willo (05 Feb 2024 2.44pm)
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PatrickA London 05 Feb 24 2.45pm | |
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Will these 'reasons' help us win games going forward? Originally posted by Willo
With respect I don't believe we can 'Airbrush' extenuating circumstances, one can present them for consideration and debate whilst of course recognising the challenges we face at the present time.
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SurbsEagle 05 Feb 24 2.51pm | |
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I personally don't believe Parish wants to sack Roy. I think it's a difficult situation for him with a man he considers to be a club legend and he will hold off until the very last chance to sack him. There's a few comments of bad luck for Roy, given the injuries to key players but I don't buy this. Roy should be sacked because anyone who has any experience in football can see that this season Schlupp is nowhere near it and should not be on the pitch as much as he is, regardless of injuries. Will Hughes is never a number 10. Joel Ward is an accident waiting to happen at RB. Not playing Franca, Ahamada, Rak-Sakyi (when fit) or Ozoh enough. Bringing on young players at 2-0 down and then criticising them afterwards saying they aren't ready. Telling the fans we are lucky to have what we have and should be grateful for the dross football we have to sit through week in/week out. I love Roy and what he has achieved at this club but we are sleep walking to relegation. Roy Hodgson should be a part of Crystal Palace's story but at the moment, Crystal Palace is part of Roy Hodgson's story and that HAS to change.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 05 Feb 24 2.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
There are always extenuating circumstances for every club and I accept that injuries are part and parcel of football. When such key quality players are unavailable for long periods it can have a devastating effect.Clubs are not too adversely affected if they have large squads and players that are not pivotal to their success are absent. One can accuse me of making "Excuses", to my mind I am merely stating what I believe has been damaging to our team this season and could continue to have an adverse affect on our results. Edited by Willo (05 Feb 2024 2.15pm) No doubt. One might ask however if this should be fatal to our club and if it was/is unavoidable? Many will argue not.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Feb 24 2.51pm | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
Will these 'reasons' help us win games going forward? In my humble estimation whether we win a significant amount of games going forward will be dependant on our key players on the field on a regular basis. We will all have 'reasons' as to why we in our current plight, some will aim their animus at Mr Hodgson,some at the Board/Parish, some a combination of both. Edited by Willo (05 Feb 2024 3.05pm)
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SurbsEagle 05 Feb 24 2.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
In my humble estimation whether we win a significant amount of games going forward will be dependant on our key players on the field on a regular basis. We will all have 'reasons' as to why we in our current plight, some will aim their animus at Mr Hodgson,some at the Board/Parish, some a combination of both. Ultimately I guess the question is.. With the current squad we have, would another manager that is available now, get us to a better position in the league?
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Mr.G 05 Feb 24 3.00pm | |
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What makes Hodgson a ‘club legend’??? He has developed nobody, given us dire football but kept us in the Prem a couple times. SFW
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Feb 24 3.18pm | |
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Originally posted by SurbsEagle
Ultimately I guess the question is.. With the current squad we have, would another manager that is available now, get us to a better position in the league? Old creakeys and relics like me are always delving into the past ! I believe the past, in terms of the events this season', is relevant to our current plight.In general,one can learn from past experiences with knowledge that can shape the future. Edited by Willo (05 Feb 2024 3.19pm)
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radicalsteve ottawa 05 Feb 24 3.19pm | |
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It is the "perfect storm" for Steve Parish and options look like they are very limited. Hiring a new (proven) manager now, will be very challenging, but you never know. The other option is the one he used last year - would Big Sam be in his mind? We should remind ourselves that Hodgson failed to keep up Watford, their football was dire and that was when Pedro was in the team. Of course BS also failed at WBA ..... but they had no talent Edited by radicalsteve (05 Feb 2024 3.21pm) Edited by radicalsteve (05 Feb 2024 3.23pm)
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Feb 24 3.24pm | |
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Originally posted by radicalsteve
It is the "perfect storm" for Steve Parish and options look like they are very limited. Hiring a new (proven) manager now, will be very challenging, but you never know. The other option is the one he used last year - would Big Sam be in his mind? We should remind ourselves that Hodgson failed to keep up WBA, their football was dire and that was when Pedro was in the team, now tearing it up for Brighton! You mean Watford ! Edited by Willo (05 Feb 2024 3.26pm)
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