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  georgenorman  17 Oct 23 8.57am |
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Iran can't wait to get involved militarily in this, which may well mean the US getting involved. It has all been orchestrated to become a wider conflict. It is going to make Ukraine v Russia look like a sideshow.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 17 Oct 23 9.16am |
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So Israel voted in somehow Netanyahu and his far-right shower, not only is he tearing up their democracy but now they see the reality of the extra security they voted for.
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cryrst  The garden of England 17 Oct 23 9.30am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Which of them wants to kill all Jews and establish a worldwide Islamic Caliphate? Jews are the first target, then it’s the rest of the west as can be seen around Europe.
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| silvertop Portishead 17 Oct 23 9.47am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Iran can't wait to get involved militarily in this, which may well mean the US getting involved. It has all been orchestrated to become a wider conflict. It is going to make Ukraine v Russia look like a sideshow. I am aiming this question at you as you have clearly taken a side as the emergence of the flag suggests. Clearly, anyone can respond as this is not a PM. Yesterday in Parliament, amidst all the pro Israel support, one MP stood up. He said that Israel needs to take care that they do not aim collective responsibility for the acts of Hamas at all Palestinians and to be aware of the presence of 1.2 million children in Gaza. To this there were shouts of "shame" from some Members. I genuinely fail to understand how this statement was anything but one of the obvious. Any country that holds itself up as a respecter of law and liberal democracy (including Israel in these times) will say - "Der, Yeah. Of course!" Yet, there were those MPS who considered the statement to be... I don't really know. Do you?
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| georgenorman 17 Oct 23 10.03am |
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Originally posted by silvertop
I am aiming this question at you as you have clearly taken a side as the emergence of the flag suggests. Clearly, anyone can respond as this is not a PM. Yesterday in Parliament, amidst all the pro Israel support, one MP stood up. He said that Israel needs to take care that they do not aim collective responsibility for the acts of Hamas at all Palestinians and to be aware of the presence of 1.2 million children in Gaza. To this there were shouts of "shame" from some Members. I genuinely fail to understand how this statement was anything but one of the obvious. Any country that holds itself up as a respecter of law and liberal democracy (including Israel in these times) will say - "Der, Yeah. Of course!" Yet, there were those MPS who considered the statement to be... I don't really know. Do you? Richard Burgan is a left-wing Corbynista who has voiced attacks on Israel and support of Islamist groups throughout his political career. He was also a supporter of Manduro in Venezuela and has praised Cuba and Castro, as well as questioning the legitimacy of NATO.
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| silvertop Portishead 17 Oct 23 12.03pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Richard Burgan is a left-wing Corbynista who has voiced attacks on Israel and support of Islamist groups throughout his political career. He was also a supporter of Manduro in Venezuela and has praised Cuba and Castro, as well as questioning the legitimacy of NATO. Ah, so it was not what the man said but the man who said it?
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| Badger11 Beckenham 17 Oct 23 12.10pm |
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A bit like Trump or Farage then, it's the man not the message.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 17 Oct 23 2.25pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
I presume you also think that in all likelihood The Holocaust did not happen. So what is your version of what Hamas did in Israel - a bit of sight-seeing? What do facts matter, aye? Funny enough, there is a scale of things between beheading babies and a bit of sight-seeing - it's possible to acknowledge acts of terror without inventing others. In a similar way, you can also acknowledge atrocities on both sides of a conflict.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Oct 23 2.53pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
A bit like Trump or Farage then, it's the man not the message. It’s certainly wise to be cautious about any statement from anyone who has offered previous opinions that you fundamentally disagree with. However even the most distasteful people are capable of uttering an occasional pearl of wisdom. Mind you I am still waiting for one from Trump. Farage likes a pint so he has got that right.
For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally. |
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 17 Oct 23 3.35pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
What do facts matter, aye? Funny enough, there is a scale of things between beheading babies and a bit of sight-seeing - it's possible to acknowledge acts of terror without inventing others. In a similar way, you can also acknowledge atrocities on both sides of a conflict. Reading the Sky report about the abduction of hostages and in particular a French girl named Mia, whose mother spoke about her wanting her back, a Hamas spokesman has said that they only targeted military targets and that civilians got caught up in the chaos . Just think about that for a moment; 260 festival attendees mistaken for military personnel!
hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing. |
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| georgenorman 17 Oct 23 3.44pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
What do facts matter, aye? Funny enough, there is a scale of things between beheading babies and a bit of sight-seeing - it's possible to acknowledge acts of terror without inventing others. In a similar way, you can also acknowledge atrocities on both sides of a conflict. Israel have not committed any atrocities, Hamas have committed many.
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 17 Oct 23 4.09pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It’s certainly wise to be cautious about any statement from anyone who has offered previous opinions that you fundamentally disagree with. However even the most distasteful people are capable of uttering an occasional pearl of wisdom. Mind you I am still waiting for one from Trump. Farage likes a pint so he has got that right. We ALL know your overt dislike towards Trump & Farage. How are they 'distasteful'? Only to you it seems. Trump & Farage have possibly more wisdom that you could ever have. Love your 'trolling' tho Edited by eagleman13 (17 Oct 2023 4.10pm)
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise. |
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