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Ukraine Situation - Should We Be Worried?
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 Mapletree  Croydon 23 Feb 22 7.15pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
History doesn't repeat...it rhymes. Nope. The majority in both Donbas and Luhansk will be perfectly happy and I don’t see the Ukrainian minorities risking themselves if they are treated reasonably.
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| Stirlingsays 23 Feb 22 7.16pm |
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Originally posted by Grumbles
do you mean Israelis? Yes, the once guardians of the holy of holies.
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| Stirlingsays 23 Feb 22 7.17pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Nope. The majority in both Donbas and Luhansk will be perfectly happy and I don’t see the Ukrainian minorities risking themselves if they are treated reasonably. Obviously I hope you're right.
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| Matov 23 Feb 22 7.18pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Putin is neither mad nor stupid. He should not be underestimated. He is, however, a populist. This move plays very well to Russians and also to the Russian diaspora. The mother bear will always come to the rescue.
Our leaders do not do what would be best for the people of the UK. If they did, we would be fracking, mining coal, building nuclear power stations along with pumping billions into research for effective alternatives so that the UK is totally self-dependent for its power needs. Ditto with the Germans, ditto with the Yanks and so on. And this was happening, or rather moves towards it. Especially in the US but the UK was making progress as well. Then it all came to a halt? Why? Why would any political leadership want their nation to be dependent on foreign-controlled fuels? Makes no sense unless you think your leadership has been utterly corrupted. As the Wests has been.
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| Mapletree Croydon 23 Feb 22 7.22pm |
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This short article is very informative. Basically The 8 years when these two regions have been separate from Ukraine have been too costly for Russia so it is taking direct charge. As I previously posted Russia is scaring the West into accepting the loss of two statelets instead of going to full on war in Ukraine. They will win this round.
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| Stirlingsays 23 Feb 22 7.27pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
This short article is very informative. Basically The 8 years when these two regions have been separate from Ukraine have been too costly for Russia so it is taking direct charge. As I previously posted Russia is scaring the West into accepting the loss of two statelets instead of going to full on war in Ukraine. They will win this round. You and Al Jazeera. Still interesting article.
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| Mapletree Croydon 23 Feb 22 7.39pm |
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I blame the Welsh…
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| Stirlingsays 23 Feb 22 7.45pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I blame the Welsh… It's not their fault that they have some of the most attractive sheep in the world. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Feb 2022 7.46pm)
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 23 Feb 22 8.58pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's not their fault that they have some of the most attractive sheep in the world. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Feb 2022 7.46pm) I bought a couple of lamb shanks on Saturday from the supermarket. On the packaging it said 'Reared in Wales', I thought that was just a racist stereotype.
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| Stirlingsays 23 Feb 22 9.07pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I bought a couple of lamb shanks on Saturday from the supermarket. On the packaging it said 'Reared in Wales', I thought that was just a racist stereotype.
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cryrst  The garden of England 23 Feb 22 9.28pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Our leaders do not do what would be best for the people of the UK. If they did, we would be fracking, mining coal, building nuclear power stations along with pumping billions into research for effective alternatives so that the UK is totally self-dependent for its power needs. Ditto with the Germans, ditto with the Yanks and so on. And this was happening, or rather moves towards it. Especially in the US but the UK was making progress as well. Then it all came to a halt? Why? Why would any political leadership want their nation to be dependent on foreign-controlled fuels? Makes no sense unless you think your leadership has been utterly corrupted. As the Wests has been. As normal matov, right wing capitalist thoughts, without right wing standard labels.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 23 Feb 22 9.30pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
So you think Putin is Hitler? You think our existence is at risk? You think Putin wants nuclear war? Seriously? As for the 'sovereign' stuff, as I said Nato already did this itself in Europe in Serbia....Nato was responsible for somewhere between 500 civilians deaths and thousands fighting that war. Ok, look I'm not going to argue with my own side. If you think that it's light versus dark then sure go ahead. I'll just side with the parts of Ukraine than aren't Russian. Our existence is at risk, but not primarily because of Putin. The existential threat is far more likely about migration, not bombs. The comparison with Hitler does not and was not intended to stand close scrutiny. The obvious similarity is a dictator invading neighbours, with sympathy from some sections of the British
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