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 Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 26 May 17 11.19am |
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Originally posted by AshfordEagle94
But then surely this puts the attacking player at an advantage because they're either a) open or b) being marked by a weaker header of the ball which would mean more chance of winning a second ball 'Zonal marking' is based on the principle that when free-kicks are taken in the attacking third in wide positions or from corners, there is a dangerous space where goals are scored fom the first touch. Team who employ 'Zonal marking' deploy the best headers of the ball in that space with other players in positions to defend the second ball. 'Zonal marking' is a collective responsibility as opposed to man-to-man marking which is down to individuals picking up players they are designated to mark. And as I mentioned in another post, some Teams deploy a combination of both zonal and man-to-man marking. Anyway this is getting away from the subject matter of this thread.
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chateauferret  26 May 17 11.26am |
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Originally posted by Willo
'Zonal marking' is based on the principle that when free-kicks are taken in the attacking third in wide positions or from corners, there is a dangerous space where goals are scored fom the first touch. Team who employ 'Zonal marking' deploy the best headers of the ball in that space with other players in positions to defend the second ball. 'Zonal marking' is a collective responsibility as opposed to man-to-man marking which is down to individuals picking up players they are designated to mark. And as I mentioned in another post, some Teams deploy a combination of both zonal and man-to-man marking. Anyway this is getting away from the subject matter of this thread. Not really, because it's one of the issues with Silva. I think managers and teams that resort to zonal marking without due aforethought are being lazy and are taking a risk, as one player thinks an opponent leaving his "zone" is being handed over to another but these handoffs are not managed. All a player like Benteke has to do is move about enough and he can find himself in acres of space. If Silva thinks he can improve our defence by making it use zonal marking all the time he is IMHO wrong and could be a disaster. Whether he is of that mind I don't know.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 26 May 17 11.39am |
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Personally, would Silva be a bit of a gamble ? - YES That said, Pochettino was a real gamble for Southampton as they ousted Adkins who had got them back-to-back promotions into the PL.I had a few conversations with those in the game about that appointment ! That said, Pochettino wasn't taking over side that had just fought a relegation battle - he joined them when they were 15th after 22 league games and they had a good setup with a very good academy and scouting infrastructure.And they were on the "Up" following successive promotions. Edited by Willo (26 May 2017 11.42am)
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| rollercoaster Cornwall 26 May 17 11.48am |
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I guess the crux of what Willo is saying (but not put very well in my opinion) is, is it better to recruit a tired failed premier league manager or do we go for a fresh successful manager from the lower divisions or from Europe? The Silva discussion comes down to: do we think Silva is a failed prem manager for relegating Hull or a successful one for getting them close. I suppose also is a few months in the Prem adequate experience to judge? Given my argument I draw the conclusion that the Fulham manager would be a better choice because he is a success now and he managed Watford successfully. Edited by rollercoaster (26 May 2017 11.49am)
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| lefty27 ipswich 26 May 17 11.48am |
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FYP have tweeted Marco Silva is to be our next manager on a two year contract, anyone else seeing this?
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| Southampton_Eagle At the after party 26 May 17 11.53am |
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Originally posted by Dan89
They don't but it's about ambition. Do you really think Zaha will sign a new deal with silva in charge because I highly doubt it. Bet you wish you had a bit of hindsight? Don't need a manager in place, just dangle a financial carrot.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 26 May 17 11.53am |
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Originally posted by rollercoaster
I guess the crux of what Willo is saying (but not put very well in my opinion) is, is it better to recruit a tired failed premier league manager or do we go for a fresh successful manager from the lower divisions or from Europe? The Silva discussion comes down to: do we think Silva is a failed prem manager for relegating Hull or a successful one for getting them close. I suppose also is a few months in the Prem adequate experience to judge? Given my argument I draw the conclusion that the Fulham manager would be a better choice because he is a success now and he managed Watford successfully. Edited by rollercoaster (26 May 2017 11.49am) He actually got Watford promoted into the PL - Qualities which we might need if (God forbid) we are relegated !
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 26 May 17 11.54am |
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Originally posted by lefty27
FYP have tweeted Marco Silva is to be our next manager on a two year contract, anyone else seeing this? Wouldn't be surprised at all.
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| palace99 New Mills 26 May 17 11.55am |
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Originally posted by Willo
I see all the speculation about certian managers going here and there and they are all 'Name' managers. I look at someone who hasn't had a mention on here - step forward Derek Adams of Plymouth.He did a terrific job at Ross Co on a 'Shoestring' getting them promotion to the Scottish league and just missing out on Europe by a point. In his first season at Plymouth, having signed 'Loanees' and 'Frees' he led them to the play-off final where they lost to AFC Wimbledon.Last pre-season they lost a lot of players yet Adams signed a load of 'Frees' and they got promotion to Division One. This is what I call real achievement, NOT winning the league at Olympiakos and the cup at Sporting.I accept winning league/Cup is commendable but I look at the 'Bigger picture'.Rest assured I'm not being critical of Silva, just saying that his achievements have been 'Over-stated' by many on here.This is my main point, not a strident criticism of Silva. Edited by Willo (26 May 2017 8.38am) you are forgetting Silva's achievement of getting a small 2nd div club promoted to the top flight in Portugal earning him the Sporting job. Surely that should be mentioned when you look at the bigger picture too
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| chateauferret 26 May 17 11.55am |
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Originally posted by lefty27
FYP have tweeted Marco Silva is to be our next manager on a two year contract, anyone else seeing this? Nope.
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| paperhat croydon 26 May 17 11.55am |
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Originally posted by Willo
He actually got Watford promoted into the PL - Qualities which we might need if (God forbid) we are relegated ! Worry about that if and when it happens then
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| Crazy_Eagle South London 26 May 17 11.57am |
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I've been a member of this site for 10 years, I don't log in as much anymore but every time I do I just read threads that end up being about one poster. This forum is really going downhill.
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