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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Dec 20 1.03pm
Originally posted by Belmont Are you confusing me with someone else I haven't called anyone a moron??? Apologies, wasn't you. I can totally understand your viewpoint by the way. It is the popular and common one now. What I disagree with is the reverse narrative. Particularly immigration, people who don't want mass immigration aren't racist. They may actually be looking for a better life for everyone already within a territory - regardless of colour or Creed. The inevitable outcome of lack of controls and a lot of poor migrants reduces everyone's living standards and undermines the work already done on equality. For equality to really work everyone has to benefit. Little point in everyone being equally poor - as the Soviet Union found out. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Dec 20 1.03pm

Originally posted by Belmont

Are you confusing me with someone else I haven't called anyone a moron???

Apologies, wasn't you. I can totally understand your viewpoint by the way. It is the popular and common one now. What I disagree with is the reverse narrative. Particularly immigration, people who don't want mass immigration aren't racist. They may actually be looking for a better life for everyone already within a territory - regardless of colour or Creed.
The inevitable outcome of lack of controls and a lot of poor migrants reduces everyone's living standards and undermines the work already done on equality. For equality to really work everyone has to benefit. Little point in everyone being equally poor - as the Soviet Union found out.

Red and Blue Army!

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steeleye20 Croydon 10 Dec 20 1.10pm
As President Donald Trump's days in the White House wane, his administration is racing through a string of federal executions. Five executions are scheduled before President-elect Joe Biden's 20 January inauguration - breaking with an 130-year-old precedent of pausing executions amid a presidential transition. And if all five take place, Mr Trump will be the country's most prolific execution president in more than a century, overseeing the executions of 13 death row inmates since July of this year. I am reading furthermore, that since 1973 an astonishing 160 executions have been carried out on death row inmates who were subsequently found to be innocent and exonerated.
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Croydon 10 Dec 20 1.10pm

As President Donald Trump's days in the White House wane, his administration is racing through a string of federal executions.

Five executions are scheduled before President-elect Joe Biden's 20 January inauguration - breaking with an 130-year-old precedent of pausing executions amid a presidential transition.

And if all five take place, Mr Trump will be the country's most prolific execution president in more than a century, overseeing the executions of 13 death row inmates since July of this year.

I am reading furthermore, that since 1973 an astonishing 160 executions have been carried out on death row inmates who were subsequently found to be innocent and exonerated.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Dec 20 6.44pm
Duplicate. Sorry. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (10 Dec 2020 6.48pm) For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 10 Dec 20 6.44pm

Duplicate. Sorry.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (10 Dec 2020 6.48pm)

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Dec 20 6.47pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Not any immigrants no it isn't. The US constitution stated only European immigrants. The Democratic phrase is used to support any immigration to the US. It's deliberate misinformation used to suppress European concerns that the demographic change is normal and safe for them. Really? This is the original constitution :- [Link] I would be grateful if you could point out where it says this. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 10 Dec 20 6.47pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Not any immigrants no it isn't.

The US constitution stated only European immigrants.

The Democratic phrase is used to support any immigration to the US.

It's deliberate misinformation used to suppress European concerns that the demographic change is normal and safe for them.

Really? This is the original constitution :-

[Link]

I would be grateful if you could point out where it says this.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Dec 20 7.05pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays A nationality is a concept subject to legal definitions and change. Genes are a physical reality. If you are genetically European your location is hardly relevant. Rudyard Kipling was born in India and spent a good deal of his youth there and loved the country....no one mistook Kipling for being Indian, least of all himself. As for the immigrant question, don't get lost in the argument. My point answered the claim that America was always a land of immigrants....which is a leftist meme that deliberately tries to give the impression that America was open. It wasn't....America's constitution specifically stated only Europeans may come. I answered the point because it's deliberate disinformation and hence irritating. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2020 2.21am) You really believe this don't you? Let's see you prove it! For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 10 Dec 20 7.05pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

A nationality is a concept subject to legal definitions and change.

Genes are a physical reality.

If you are genetically European your location is hardly relevant. Rudyard Kipling was born in India and spent a good deal of his youth there and loved the country....no one mistook Kipling for being Indian, least of all himself.

As for the immigrant question, don't get lost in the argument. My point answered the claim that America was always a land of immigrants....which is a leftist meme that deliberately tries to give the impression that America was open.

It wasn't....America's constitution specifically stated only Europeans may come.

I answered the point because it's deliberate disinformation and hence irritating.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2020 2.21am)

You really believe this don't you?

Let's see you prove it!

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Teddy Eagle 10 Dec 20 7.25pm
Don’t know about the constitution but.... The general Immigration Act of 1882 ....blocked (or excluded) the entry of idiots, lunatics, convicts, and persons likely to become a public charge. They were obviously confident of producing their own.
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10 Dec 20 7.25pm

Don’t know about the constitution but....

The general Immigration Act of 1882 ....blocked (or excluded) the entry of idiots, lunatics, convicts, and persons likely to become a public charge.

They were obviously confident of producing their own.

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Spiderman Horsham 10 Dec 20 7.56pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Don’t know about the constitution but.... The general Immigration Act of 1882 ....blocked (or excluded) the entry of idiots, lunatics, convicts, and persons likely to become a public charge. They were obviously confident of producing their own. And have succeeded
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Horsham 10 Dec 20 7.56pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Don’t know about the constitution but....

The general Immigration Act of 1882 ....blocked (or excluded) the entry of idiots, lunatics, convicts, and persons likely to become a public charge.

They were obviously confident of producing their own.

And have succeeded

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 10 Dec 20 9.36pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle You really believe this don't you? Let's see you prove it! [Link] Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 10 Dec 20 9.36pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You really believe this don't you?

Let's see you prove it!

[Link]

Pro USA & Israel

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 10 Dec 20 10.10pm
Originally posted by Jimenez [Link] I think the debate is about where it appears in the constitution, so... Anyway, shall we migrate back onto the topic at hand Awfully quiet on the trumpian front Now out to 20-1. I wonder where matthau is? How’s his bet looking? Maybe he’ll put the pension on it - at 20-1 and with all that inside information it’s gotta be guaranteed, right? RIGHT? Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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Addiscombe West 10 Dec 20 10.10pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

[Link]

I think the debate is about where it appears in the constitution, so...

Anyway, shall we migrate back onto the topic at hand

Awfully quiet on the trumpian front

Now out to 20-1. I wonder where matthau is? How’s his bet looking? Maybe he’ll put the pension on it - at 20-1 and with all that inside information it’s gotta be guaranteed, right? RIGHT?

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Dec 20 10.23pm
Originally posted by Jimenez [Link] The constitution was written in 1787. That link is the history since 1965! Not even close. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 10 Dec 20 10.23pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

[Link]

The constitution was written in 1787.

That link is the history since 1965!

Not even close.

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 10 Dec 20 10.38pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle The constitution was written in 1787. That link is the history since 1965! Not even close. Yes I'm well aware when it was written. It's part of the citizen test. The link was merely where I think Stirling was aiming his argument. Pro USA & Israel
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Jimenez

SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 10 Dec 20 10.38pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The constitution was written in 1787.

That link is the history since 1965!

Not even close.

Yes I'm well aware when it was written. It's part of the citizen test. The link was merely where I think Stirling was aiming his argument.

Pro USA & Israel

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 10 Dec 20 10.50pm
Originally posted by Jimenez Yes I'm well aware when it was written. It's part of the citizen test. The link was merely where I think Stirling was aiming his argument. Pretty sure his argument was referring to the constitution (incorrect) rather than the 1920s immigration legislation (correct) That’s what is being debated here. It’s not in the constitution. Simple Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 10 Dec 20 10.50pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Yes I'm well aware when it was written. It's part of the citizen test. The link was merely where I think Stirling was aiming his argument.

Pretty sure his argument was referring to the constitution (incorrect) rather than the 1920s immigration legislation (correct)

That’s what is being debated here. It’s not in the constitution. Simple

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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