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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 30 Apr 15 7.37pm

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Quote legaleagle at 29 Apr 2015 10.57pm

According to their website:

"Liberty GB will address all the political issues Great Britain currently faces, something the three main parties (along with UKIP) so conspicuously fail to do.
The Liberal Democrats, Labour and Conservatives manifestly refuse to discuss the most important issues of our time, namely mass immigration from the Third World, the steady rise of fundamentalist Islam and the hijacking of traditional British culture and institutions by well-organised left-wing 'progressives'.
There is no guarantee at such a late stage that Britain can be saved, but Liberty GB will endeavour to put a stop to our rapidly accelerating descent into economic, educational, moral, cultural and social ruin. Britain could be a wonderful country again, but it will take politics bordering on the revolutionary to achieve this vision.
If you are of similar mind, Liberty GB welcomes your participation."

They might get a few from on here signing up!

I would've thought these guys were right up the HOL right wingers street, much more than Farrago and his mob.

Yes, right up their Strasse.

 

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imbored Flag UK 30 Apr 15 10.30pm

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Matthew - what is actually wrong with saying 'n1gger' if it is in context? I saw '12 Years a Slave' recently and the term was used many, many times and it seemed appropriate given the subject matter.

You personally seem to have an issue with it being used at all no matter what.

We've had this conversation before but you never actually clarified your 100% anti-stance. Were the director of the film and the screenplay writers and the actors wrong to use the word in your opinion and if so 'why'?

Simple question - would you use the 'n' word?

You use 'bender'. Therefore one would assume that you would use other offensive words.

With regards to the cinematic usage of slurs, I am not for censorship. However, there does need to be a line drawn. Did you see Django Unchained? To me, Tarantino overused racial slurs in the film for reasons of his own knowing. Racial slurs were to me, used too frequently to be of any relevance to the story and were there to shock and create controversy to hype the film. There is therefore a glance between historical accuracy and overuse to be found.


Would I use the 'n' word? Within debate on slavery/racist ideology 'yes'. You'd have to, wouldn't you, to have a broad in-depth discussion? I have no other use for it.
No
Oh, and if you are going to try and equate the use of the 'n' word for nasty reasons and two online football fans using the word 'bender' in friendly banter and not for vicious homophobic purposes to so show some kind of perceived leftist hypocrisy.........well, off you go. Should be interesting.

Here we go again. The issue is that you and the rest of the lefty gang think it is a punishable crime for UKIP members to use words that could be construed as homophobic and yet you yourself use words that could be construed as homophobic but that's ok because of 'context' and its 'banter'.

It's hypocrisy Michael. Either you reject political correctness and use the words you have used freely & without shame, or you don't use them at all. No half measures. Your message is contradictory and nonsense.


Edited by matt_himself (29 Apr 2015 1.04pm)


That is, frankly, ridiculous. Why on earth do I have to use certain words in everyday speech down somewhere like Old Compton Street to strangers and, thus, by doing so be overtly obnoxious, threatening and nasty, just because I have used the same word in a totally benign and friendly context elsewhere?

It has to be more than just because 'you say so'.

A UKIP prospective MP, or any politician for that matter, whether they know it or not is addressing Joe Public everytime they open up their gob so can't complain if they are pulled up on any unsavoury verbals. And just because some civilian may have used the same words at another time is no kind of defence, is it? Though you seem to think it is. Strange.



You can't have it both ways and retain credibility.

If you are appalled by UKIP candidates using words you seem to be offensive to gays (you have taken great delight in pointing this out on here the UKIP 'sort') and then use similar words yourself, you are a hypocrite.

You understand this. You know this. But as you have been smoked out and have no defence, you have to keep going round in circles arguing the toss. It's sad really, Michael.


In that case , I'd better start using the words'fvck' 'cvnt' and 'sh1t' in front of my lovely old mum so I can't be accused of even more (false) hypocrisy.

Your argument is too weak to be taken seriously.

Edited by Kermit8 (29 Apr 2015 2.46pm)


Bollocks. If I called the Greens 'benders', you would be outraged.

However, it is ok for you to do so, apparently. Because it is in 'context'.

Why?

But much in the same way, you've used the word 'bender' countless times over the last couple of pages and think that's fine, but you're angry with someone else for the hypocritical context in which they use the term. Even though you deny that 'context' is a factor. Unless you're angry with yourself too?


Edited by imbored (29 Apr 2015 5.12pm)


You are talking s***e.

You know this.

The above makes no sense.

Please, explain yourself in a cogent fashion or f*** off. I don't care which.


Nice way to talk to someone. "talking s***e" , "f*** off". No wonder you are so bothered with others standards of behaviour, you have no standard of your own to examine.


Since, between the barrage of profanity you asked me to explain my view I will. If it stops you being obsessed with 'benders' it will do us all a favour.

There was recently a gay marriage vote in Ireland. The character "Mrs Brown" made a video beforehand signalling support for marriage equality. Part of the video included a jokey line that said "two queers walk into a bar...". What do you know, there was no outrage or cries of homophobia or hypocrocy by anyone, because people realised this was someone on their side, not using these words maliciously. Context .

Much in the same way on here it's quite clear who has fundamental problems with certain groups and who doesn't.

Edited by imbored (30 Apr 2015 11.23pm)

 
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imbored Flag UK 30 Apr 15 10.54pm

Meet the UKIP Candidate Who Wants to Bang Female Students Out of Their Overdraft - [Link]

Just posting it for the hilarious title really.

 
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TheJudge Flag 30 Apr 15 11.14pm

Ignoring the usual trolling from him above.

I think Nige has been pretty impressive tonight unlike the 3 stooges on earlier. Is it possible for Milliband to look any more of a t*** ?

Edited by TheJudge (30 Apr 2015 11.15pm)

 
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imbored Flag UK 30 Apr 15 11.28pm

Quote TheJudge at 30 Apr 2015 11.14pm

Ignoring the usual trolling from him above.

I think Nige has been pretty impressive tonight unlike the 3 stooges on earlier. Is it possible for Milliband to look any more of a t*** ?

Edited by TheJudge (30 Apr 2015 11.15pm)

If you read through the last 10 pages, you'll find about 5 of those full of Matt harping on about the word 'bender', me making a short reply for which I got told to fcuk off, that I was talking s*** and told to explain myself further. I've just calmly done that. Thanks.

As for the debates tonight, I'd say that Clegg had a good one, but as the Lib Dem vote is dead on its feet, that's largely irrelevant. Cameron had a better performance than Miliband, but who knows if it will be enough. I suspect most of those watching didn't hang around for the UKIP bit, myself included. A bit unfair timeslot wise, since UKIP will gain more votes than the Lib Dems.

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imbored Flag UK 30 Apr 15 11.58pm

The projected UKIP vote does seem to be collapsing. I'd say they'll maybe get about 11% on the day. That makes sense, as people jump ship to vote Conservative. I wonder if it will be enough though. UKIP might still end up being the goose that laid the golden egg for Labour.

 
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rcmeagle Flag Bromley 01 May 15 12.01am Send a Private Message to rcmeagle Add rcmeagle as a friend

If people actually took the time to really listen to what farage says the guy talks sense.

 
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imbored Flag UK 01 May 15 12.08am

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If people actually took the time to really listen to what farage says the guy talks sense.

I think the 'i'm like you' and 'bloke down the pub' stuff is as much a put on and an angle as the other leaders strategies. What I will say though is that I do think he's a much more competent and unflappable politician than Miliband or Cameron. He's an asset to the party there's no doubt about that, and you can't say that about the others.


 
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Seth Flag On a pale blue dot 01 May 15 1.55am Send a Private Message to Seth Add Seth as a friend

Quote rcmeagle at 01 May 2015 12.01am

If people actually took the time to really listen to what farage says the guy talks sense.


I took the time to listen to him.

Wish I hadn't though

 

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Quote Kermit8 at 28 Apr 2015 7.43pm

Matthew - what is actually wrong with saying 'n1gger' if it is in context? I saw '12 Years a Slave' recently and the term was used many, many times and it seemed appropriate given the subject matter.

You personally seem to have an issue with it being used at all no matter what.

We've had this conversation before but you never actually clarified your 100% anti-stance. Were the director of the film and the screenplay writers and the actors wrong to use the word in your opinion and if so 'why'?

Simple question - would you use the 'n' word?

You use 'bender'. Therefore one would assume that you would use other offensive words.

With regards to the cinematic usage of slurs, I am not for censorship. However, there does need to be a line drawn. Did you see Django Unchained? To me, Tarantino overused racial slurs in the film for reasons of his own knowing. Racial slurs were to me, used too frequently to be of any relevance to the story and were there to shock and create controversy to hype the film. There is therefore a glance between historical accuracy and overuse to be found.


Would I use the 'n' word? Within debate on slavery/racist ideology 'yes'. You'd have to, wouldn't you, to have a broad in-depth discussion? I have no other use for it.
No
Oh, and if you are going to try and equate the use of the 'n' word for nasty reasons and two online football fans using the word 'bender' in friendly banter and not for vicious homophobic purposes to so show some kind of perceived leftist hypocrisy.........well, off you go. Should be interesting.

Here we go again. The issue is that you and the rest of the lefty gang think it is a punishable crime for UKIP members to use words that could be construed as homophobic and yet you yourself use words that could be construed as homophobic but that's ok because of 'context' and its 'banter'.

It's hypocrisy Michael. Either you reject political correctness and use the words you have used freely & without shame, or you don't use them at all. No half measures. Your message is contradictory and nonsense.


Edited by matt_himself (29 Apr 2015 1.04pm)


That is, frankly, ridiculous. Why on earth do I have to use certain words in everyday speech down somewhere like Old Compton Street to strangers and, thus, by doing so be overtly obnoxious, threatening and nasty, just because I have used the same word in a totally benign and friendly context elsewhere?

It has to be more than just because 'you say so'.

A UKIP prospective MP, or any politician for that matter, whether they know it or not is addressing Joe Public everytime they open up their gob so can't complain if they are pulled up on any unsavoury verbals. And just because some civilian may have used the same words at another time is no kind of defence, is it? Though you seem to think it is. Strange.



You can't have it both ways and retain credibility.

If you are appalled by UKIP candidates using words you seem to be offensive to gays (you have taken great delight in pointing this out on here the UKIP 'sort') and then use similar words yourself, you are a hypocrite.

You understand this. You know this. But as you have been smoked out and have no defence, you have to keep going round in circles arguing the toss. It's sad really, Michael.


In that case , I'd better start using the words'fvck' 'cvnt' and 'sh1t' in front of my lovely old mum so I can't be accused of even more (false) hypocrisy.

Your argument is too weak to be taken seriously.

Edited by Kermit8 (29 Apr 2015 2.46pm)


Bollocks. If I called the Greens 'benders', you would be outraged.

However, it is ok for you to do so, apparently. Because it is in 'context'.

Why?

But much in the same way, you've used the word 'bender' countless times over the last couple of pages and think that's fine, but you're angry with someone else for the hypocritical context in which they use the term. Even though you deny that 'context' is a factor. Unless you're angry with yourself too?


Edited by imbored (29 Apr 2015 5.12pm)


You are talking s***e.

You know this.

The above makes no sense.

Please, explain yourself in a cogent fashion or f*** off. I don't care which.


Nice way to talk to someone. "talking s***e" , "f*** off". No wonder you are so bothered with others standards of behaviour, you have no standard of your own to examine.


Since, between the barrage of profanity you asked me to explain my view I will. If it stops you being obsessed with 'benders' it will do us all a favour.

There was recently a gay marriage vote in Ireland. The character "Mrs Brown" made a video beforehand signalling support for marriage equality. Part of the video included a jokey line that said "two queers walk into a bar...". What do you know, there was no outrage or cries of homophobia or hypocrocy by anyone, because people realised this was someone on their side, not using these words maliciously. Context .

Much in the same way on here it's quite clear who has fundamental problems with certain groups and who doesn't.

Edited by imbored (30 Apr 2015 11.23pm)

Think is trolling again. What a surprise.

 

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Quote imbored at 30 Apr 2015 11.28pm

Quote TheJudge at 30 Apr 2015 11.14pm

Ignoring the usual trolling from him above.

I think Nige has been pretty impressive tonight unlike the 3 stooges on earlier. Is it possible for Milliband to look any more of a t*** ?

Edited by TheJudge (30 Apr 2015 11.15pm)

If you read through the last 10 pages, you'll find about 5 of those full of Matt harping on about the word 'bender', me making a short reply for which I got told to fcuk off, that I was talking s*** and told to explain myself further. I've just calmly done that. Thanks.

As for the debates tonight, I'd say that Clegg had a good one, but as the Lib Dem vote is dead on its feet, that's largely irrelevant. Cameron had a better performance than Miliband, but who knows if it will be enough. I suspect most of those watching didn't hang around for the UKIP bit, myself included. A bit unfair timeslot wise, since UKIP will gain more votes than the Lib Dems.

Edited by imbored (30 Apr 2015 11.32pm)


You are trolling and you know it.

 

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derben Flag 01 May 15 7.59am

Quote imbored at 30 Apr 2015 10.54pm

Meet the UKIP Candidate Who Wants to Bang Female Students Out of Their Overdraft - [Link]

Just posting it for the hilarious title really.

UKIP candidate in possible sex-scandal. Of course, members of other political parties (especially the Liberals) have never been involved in sex-scandals.

Over 3,000 posts about UKIP, a party that many of the posters dismiss as unimportant, not a threat, will not get many votes. Why the interest then? Why not post about the likes of TUSC and the Greens who are presumably going to sweep the board due to their wise and considered 'policies'?

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