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Midlands Eagle 19 Apr 20 9.13am
Originally posted by Spiderman A Gatwick update for Willo. Today there will be a Minsk, Barcelona and the daily Dublin. Not quite sure why really! Probably just to keep your wife busy
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19 Apr 20 9.13am

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Originally posted by Spiderman

A Gatwick update for Willo. Today there will be a Minsk, Barcelona and the daily Dublin. Not quite sure why really!

Probably just to keep your wife busy

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Spiderman Horsham 19 Apr 20 9.27am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Probably just to keep your wife busy Haha, possibly although they don’t even see any passengers from the Dublin flight! Still managed to get a passenger off the Minsk flight who claimed to be coming to London for sightseeing! I suppose no sights would be busy!!
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Teddy Eagle 19 Apr 20 9.29am
Originally posted by becky Speak his name and the Devil appears - as you were posting this UK time, so the first advert was appearing on the BBC for Lenny and friends doing a combined show from Children in Need/Comic relief........ It's all your fault...... Oh, dear. He’s like Beetejuice and his name was said too often. He’ll have to go some to get more money in than Colonel Tom Moore who also has the download No. 1.
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Teddy Eagle

19 Apr 20 9.29am

Originally posted by becky

Speak his name and the Devil appears - as you were posting this UK time, so the first advert was appearing on the BBC for Lenny and friends doing a combined show from Children in Need/Comic relief........

It's all your fault......

Oh, dear. He’s like Beetejuice and his name was said too often. He’ll have to go some to get more money in than Colonel Tom Moore who also has the download No. 1.

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 19 Apr 20 9.43am
Originally posted by Spiderman Apology accepted Spider-Man you really are a nice fella. "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 19 Apr 20 9.43am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Apology accepted

Spider-Man you really are a nice fella.

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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Mapletree Croydon 19 Apr 20 9.50am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I heartily agree That would leave the problem of being unable to critique aspects of the response. When mistakes, wilful or otherwise, are made we must surely debate them.
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Croydon 19 Apr 20 9.50am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I heartily agree

That would leave the problem of being unable to critique aspects of the response. When mistakes, wilful or otherwise, are made we must surely debate them.

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Teddy Eagle 19 Apr 20 10.02am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Oh, dear. He’s like Beetejuice and his name was said too often. He’ll have to go some to get more money in than Colonel Tom Moore who also has the download No. 1. Apologies to Captain Moore for inadvertently promoting him. And It should have read Beetlejuice. An inability to mono-task is a curse.
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Teddy Eagle

19 Apr 20 10.02am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Oh, dear. He’s like Beetejuice and his name was said too often. He’ll have to go some to get more money in than Colonel Tom Moore who also has the download No. 1.

Apologies to Captain Moore for inadvertently promoting him. And It should have read Beetlejuice. An inability to mono-task is a curse.

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Midlands Eagle 19 Apr 20 10.46am
Originally posted by Mapletree That would leave the problem of being unable to critique aspects of the response. When mistakes, wilful or otherwise, are made we must surely debate them. Not at all. Every aspect of the Government's responses to this crisis should be discussed but without trying to score political points. There are a lot of people who are wise with the benefit of hindsight and lots who criticize aspects of the Government's actions without offering a credible alternative. One example of what I mean is Sir Keir Starmer's complaint that the Government should publish their exit strategy which I feel should be responded to with the comment "Well how do you suggest we should do it"
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Midlands Eagle

19 Apr 20 10.46am

Originally posted by Mapletree

That would leave the problem of being unable to critique aspects of the response. When mistakes, wilful or otherwise, are made we must surely debate them.

Not at all. Every aspect of the Government's responses to this crisis should be discussed but without trying to score political points.

There are a lot of people who are wise with the benefit of hindsight and lots who criticize aspects of the Government's actions without offering a credible alternative.

One example of what I mean is Sir Keir Starmer's complaint that the Government should publish their exit strategy which I feel should be responded to with the comment "Well how do you suggest we should do it"

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DanH SW2 19 Apr 20 10.54am
At what point do we start questioning decisions taken though? This isn’t going away any time soon. There is mounting evidence that a lot of poor decisions were taken very early on that has put us where we are now. There’s a smack of ‘now’s not the time to talk about gun control’ feel to this, and then it just moves on straight away without anyone actually talking about it. This Times article is pretty damning about decisions made in the early days. [Link]
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SW2 19 Apr 20 10.54am

At what point do we start questioning decisions taken though? This isn’t going away any time soon. There is mounting evidence that a lot of poor decisions were taken very early on that has put us where we are now.

There’s a smack of ‘now’s not the time to talk about gun control’ feel to this, and then it just moves on straight away without anyone actually talking about it.

This Times article is pretty damning about decisions made in the early days.

[Link]

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milaneagle Cheshunt 19 Apr 20 10.59am
I don't have a Times subscription. Can you copy and paste?
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milaneagle

Cheshunt 19 Apr 20 10.59am

I don't have a Times subscription. Can you copy and paste?

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Mapletree Croydon 19 Apr 20 11.04am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Not at all. Every aspect of the Government's responses to this crisis should be discussed but without trying to score political points. There are a lot of people who are wise with the benefit of hindsight and lots who criticize aspects of the Government's actions without offering a credible alternative. One example of what I mean is Sir Keir Starmer's complaint that the Government should publish their exit strategy which I feel should be responded to with the comment "Well how do you suggest we should do it" What, you mean that Keir Starmer with no access to Government Department Civil Servants and top NHS specialists?
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Mapletree

Croydon 19 Apr 20 11.04am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Not at all. Every aspect of the Government's responses to this crisis should be discussed but without trying to score political points.

There are a lot of people who are wise with the benefit of hindsight and lots who criticize aspects of the Government's actions without offering a credible alternative.

What, you mean that Keir Starmer with no access to Government Department Civil Servants and top NHS specialists?

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 19 Apr 20 11.06am
Originally posted by DanH At what point do we start questioning decisions taken though? This isn’t going away any time soon. There is mounting evidence that a lot of poor decisions were taken very early on that has put us where we are now. There’s a smack of ‘now’s not the time to talk about gun control’ feel to this, and then it just moves on straight away without anyone actually talking about it. This Times article is pretty damning about decisions made in the early days. [Link] What good does this do other than trying to discredit the government which ultimately is all you are interested in Dan. What’s done is done, so we can’t now change anything. The government have been led by science throughout this. It’s easy in hindsight to say what we should or should not have fine however this does not help anybody. Feel free to have your inquest once the hospitals are not full of people dying but right now we, society need to concentrate our efforts in pulling together to beat this. "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 19 Apr 20 11.06am

Originally posted by DanH

There’s a smack of ‘now’s not the time to talk about gun control’ feel to this, and then it just moves on straight away without anyone actually talking about it.

This Times article is pretty damning about decisions made in the early days.

[Link]

What good does this do other than trying to discredit the government which ultimately is all you are interested in Dan.

What’s done is done, so we can’t now change anything.

The government have been led by science throughout this. It’s easy in hindsight to say what we should or should not have fine however this does not help anybody.

Feel free to have your inquest once the hospitals are not full of people dying but right now we, society need to concentrate our efforts in pulling together to beat this.

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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cryrst The garden of England 19 Apr 20 11.12am
Originally posted by DanH At what point do we start questioning decisions taken though? This isn’t going away any time soon. There is mounting evidence that a lot of poor decisions were taken very early on that has put us where we are now. There’s a smack of ‘now’s not the time to talk about gun control’ feel to this, and then it just moves on straight away without anyone actually talking about it. This Times article is pretty damning about decisions made in the early days. [Link] The government have admitted mistakes. How you count the lives it may have cost is impossible. Atm we are in week 4 of lockdown. A lockdown a week earlier would have been the only change. PPE issues are global and lots of care homes are private so they cannot have all the profit and no responsibility. Why they never prepared is for them to answer. The government issue the clinical rules not the practical ones. It is impressive that extra hospitals are and have been built in the time scale they have. Imo danh it is too early to point fingers as this would take it down the political route unnecessarily. In four years people can have their choice but for now it has to be a massive joint effort.
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The garden of England 19 Apr 20 11.12am

Originally posted by DanH

There’s a smack of ‘now’s not the time to talk about gun control’ feel to this, and then it just moves on straight away without anyone actually talking about it.

This Times article is pretty damning about decisions made in the early days.

[Link]

The government have admitted mistakes. How you count the lives it may have cost is impossible.
Atm we are in week 4 of lockdown. A lockdown a week earlier would have been the only change. PPE issues are global and lots of care homes are private so they cannot have all the profit and no responsibility. Why they never prepared is for them to answer. The government issue the clinical rules not the practical ones. It is impressive that extra hospitals are and have been built in the time scale they have. Imo danh it is too early to point fingers as this would take it down the political route unnecessarily. In four years people can have their choice but for now it has to be a massive joint effort.

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