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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 11 Oct 16 7.34pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
There are 160 odd Grammars with 167,000 pupils - so 3% is about 5,000 kids - out of how many in all forms of secondary education, I don't know. I'm just not persuaded yet that free meals is the indicator you think it is. It's an indicator used by government. I'm not sure where you are going with this?
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 chris123 hove actually 11 Oct 16 7.49pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
It's an indicator used by government. I'm not sure where you are going with this? That faux measures may obscure more fundamental issues - like the alternative is so good that it doesn't matter if you kid doesn't get in, you don't want them to sit or you don't live in the catchment area. And I am interested, I remember talking to the head at Trinity years ago - he had formerly been head at Wilsons and he said it was easier to get into Trinity.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Oct 16 8.08pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
That faux measures may obscure more fundamental issues - like the alternative is so good that it doesn't matter if you kid doesn't get in, you don't want them to sit or you don't live in the catchment area. And I am interested, I remember talking to the head at Trinity years ago - he had formerly been head at Wilsons and he said it was easier to get into Trinity. The fact is that every school should be good, that's what we should be aiming for. Unfortunately as each day goes by, with what's being done to the education system, it seems more and more of a pipe dream.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 11 Oct 16 9.13pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Skim read it, still kids not getting a shot though isn't it. Plenty of other stuff out there about kids not getting a fair crack. I recommend you chat with a few grammar school teachers about kids not 'good enough' for grammar school but getting in via intensive coaching. Read somewhere that the tutor industry is worth over £1.5 billion. Edited by nickgusset (11 Oct 2016 7.12pm) This is where you show supreme naivety. People will always seek to gain advantage in what ever system you employ. There is nothing new about that. I asked my son about your theory and he did not recognise that problem at the school he went to.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Oct 16 9.30pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
This is where you show supreme naivety. People will always seek to gain advantage in what ever system you employ. There is nothing new about that. I asked my son about your theory and he did not recognise that problem at the school he went to. Another it is what it is put up with it type response from you there. Yes people will always try and take advantage but that doesn't mean you shouldn't look for other, better ways.
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 11 Oct 16 9.55pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Skim read it, still kids not getting a shot though isn't it. Plenty of other stuff out there about kids not getting a fair crack. I recommend you chat with a few grammar school teachers about kids not 'good enough' for grammar school but getting in via intensive coaching. Read somewhere that the tutor industry is worth over £1.5 billion. Edited by nickgusset (11 Oct 2016 7.12pm) Tutors and tutoring to pass the nary exam are two different things. My daughter has always struggled with maths and we have periodically used tutors. Some of her friends have had them too for a variety of subjects. Only one was pre entrance exam.
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 11 Oct 16 9.58pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Skim read it, still kids not getting a shot though isn't it. Plenty of other stuff out there about kids not getting a fair crack. I recommend you chat with a few grammar school teachers about kids not 'good enough' for grammar school but getting in via intensive coaching. Read somewhere that the tutor industry is worth over £1.5 billion. Edited by nickgusset (11 Oct 2016 7.12pm) The 3% on free dinners, how does that compare to the national average?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Oct 16 9.58pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Tutors and tutoring to pass the nary exam are two different things. My daughter has always struggled with maths and we have periodically used tutors. Some of her friends have had them too for a variety of subjects. Only one was pre entrance exam. I thought about home tutoring to earn extra cash. Over 90percent of potential work was for 11+. Obviously being in Kent this figure is a lot higher than elsewhere.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Oct 16 9.59pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
The 3% on free dinners, how does that compare to the national average? Don't know off the top of my head. When you find out let us know.
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 11 Oct 16 10.01pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I thought about home tutoring to earn extra cash. Over 90percent of potential work was for 11+. Obviously being in Kent this figure is a lot higher than elsewhere. The Mrs sorted out my daughter, the website seemed to be mostly student teachers. A good earner for them Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (11 Oct 2016 10.03pm)
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 11 Oct 16 10.02pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Don't know off the top of my head. When you find out let us know. So quoting 3% is meaningless. Whilst unlikely It could be higher than the national average. That would bugger your argument up.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Oct 16 10.14pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
So quoting 3% is meaningless. Whilst unlikely It could be higher than the national average. That would bugger your argument up. It's not meaningless when it's a figure used by the government for measuring socio-economic deprivation.
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