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W12 10 Dec 20 8.40am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
A nationality is a concept subject to legal definitions and change. Genes are a physical reality. If you are genetically European your location is hardly relevant. Rudyard Kipling was born in India and spent a good deal of his youth there and loved the country....no one mistook Kipling for being Indian, least of all himself. As for the immigrant question, don't get lost in the argument. My point answered the claim that America was always a land of immigrants....which is a leftist meme that deliberately tries to give the impression that America was open. It wasn't....America's constitution specifically stated only Europeans may come. I answered the point because it's deliberate disinformation and hence irritating.
European Christians also built the infrastructure, the cities and towns, agriculture, judiciary, the political and social systems and everything that modern America is based on. Ironically much of which has now been subverted and is being used against them.
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Spiderman Horsham 10 Dec 20 8.45am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
A nationality is a concept subject to legal definitions and change. Genes are a physical reality. If you are genetically European your location is hardly relevant. Rudyard Kipling was born in India and spent a good deal of his youth there and loved the country....no one mistook Kipling for being Indian, least of all himself. As for the immigrant question, don't get lost in the argument. My point answered the claim that America was always a land of immigrants....which is a leftist meme that deliberately tries to give the impression that America was open. It wasn't....America's constitution specifically stated only Europeans may come. I answered the point because it's deliberate disinformation and hence irritating.
Americans seem confused by the term nationality. On U.K. landing cards there is a section where you have to put your nationality ( ie the passport they are travelling on). Many times I have seen 3,4,5 nationalities written down by 1 person but this did not include USA!
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Stirlingsays 10 Dec 20 9.35am | |
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Originally posted by W12
European Christians also built the infrastructure, the cities and towns, agriculture, judiciary, the political and social systems and everything that modern America is based on. Ironically much of which has now been subverted and is being used against them. Indeed. Make America, non European again. We are witnessing the fall of Rome in slow motion. Europeans are on the path to becoming a stateless homeless group, like the pre 1948 Jews. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2020 9.51am)
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Stirlingsays 10 Dec 20 9.45am | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Americans seem confused by the term nationality. On U.K. landing cards there is a section where you have to put your nationality ( ie the passport they are travelling on). Many times I have seen 3,4,5 nationalities written down by 1 person but this did not include USA! Americans use to get sold the concept of nationality quite strongly. Nationality is used as a tool for unity but the wider you make the genetic base the harder it is to pull the woold over people's eyes. It's like the term British, now it's used by anyone here, whose allegiances are elsewhere because their genetics and family come from there. This isn't true for everyone but it is for a high percent. It's Kipling in reverse. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2020 9.54am)
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Belmont 10 Dec 20 10.07am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Americans use to get sold the concept of nationality quite strongly. Nationality is used as a tool for unity but the wider you make the genetic base the harder it is to pull the woold over people's eyes. It's like the term British, now it's used by anyone here, whose allegiances are elsewhere because their genetics and family come from there. This isn't true for everyone but it is for a high percent. It's Kipling in reverse. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2020 9.54am) If you are going to use the genetics argument surely the only true "Americans" are the indigenous peoples the Native Americans, so everyone else is an immigrant
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Stirlingsays 10 Dec 20 10.34am | |
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Originally posted by Belmont
If you are going to use the genetics argument surely the only true "Americans" are the indigenous peoples the Native Americans, so everyone else is an immigrant Yes. You would have to read back to see my point.
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Belmont 10 Dec 20 10.40am | |
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Was your point that the democrats view that America is a land of immigrants is not true?
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Stirlingsays 10 Dec 20 10.44am | |
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Originally posted by Belmont
Was your point that the democrats view that America is a land of immigrants is not true? Not any immigrants no it isn't. The US constitution stated only European immigrants. The Democratic phrase is used to support any immigration to the US. It's deliberate misinformation used to suppress European concerns that the demographic change is normal and safe for them.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Dec 20 10.46am | |
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Originally posted by Belmont
Was your point that the democrats view that America is a land of immigrants is not true? The original settlers who identify as American are no longer immigrants. They are Americans. But if Biden wants the whole of South and Central America to move there, then that will work out well. Trump so racist etc.
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Belmont 10 Dec 20 10.54am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Not any immigrants no it isn't. The US constitution stated only European immigrants. The Democratic phrase is used to support any immigration to the US. It's deliberate misinformation used to suppress European concerns that the demographic change is normal and safe for them. So if you agree with this "If you are going to use the genetics argument surely the only true "Americans" are the indigenous peoples the Native Americans, so everyone else is an immigrant" which you did above, surely all immigration from all counties should considered normal.
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Badger11 Beckenham 10 Dec 20 10.56am | |
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Originally posted by Belmont
So if you agree with this "If you are going to use the genetics argument surely the only true "Americans" are the indigenous peoples the Native Americans, so everyone else is an immigrant" which you did above, surely all immigration from all counties should considered normal. Native Americans came from Asia we're all immigrants.
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Belmont 10 Dec 20 11.04am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Native Americans came from Asia we're all immigrants. Not according to a lot of posters on these boards when it comes to Britain.
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