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minted 25 Jun 16 8.01pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Had the margin between leave and remain votes been wider I think people would have taken it with better grace. It's a shame that some leavers and remainers could have been more magnanimous. As it is I think we need to wait a few more days before people calm down a bit. This is what bothers me. From a total of 46.5 million eligible to vote, this result has been carried by just 1.4 million, i.e. 3%. No wonder there is a lot of unhappiness in the country. In my view, the requirement should have been 60% of votes to achieve a win, then no one could complain. As it is, there is a huge split right down the middle of the country, and we are left in a total mess.
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minted 25 Jun 16 8.01pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Had the margin between leave and remain votes been wider I think people would have taken it with better grace.

It's a shame that some leavers and remainers could have been more magnanimous.

As it is I think we need to wait a few more days before people calm down a bit.

This is what bothers me. From a total of 46.5 million eligible to vote, this result has been carried by just 1.4 million, i.e. 3%. No wonder there is a lot of unhappiness in the country.
In my view, the requirement should have been 60% of votes to achieve a win, then no one could complain. As it is, there is a huge split right down the middle of the country, and we are left in a total mess.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 25 Jun 16 8.03pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 And this is the main problem. The blinkered and hubris-ridden won this week. Congratulations. You're only saying that because your opinion did not prevail. It's a churlish attitude to democracy, Kermie me boy, and bears all the hallmarks of the sourest of grapes. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 25 Jun 16 8.03pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

And this is the main problem. The blinkered and hubris-ridden won this week. Congratulations.

You're only saying that because your opinion did not prevail. It's a churlish attitude to democracy, Kermie me boy, and bears all the hallmarks of the sourest of grapes.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Part Time James 25 Jun 16 8.05pm
Originally posted by minted This is what bothers me. From a total of 46.5 million eligible to vote, this result has been carried by just 1.4 million, i.e. 3%. No wonder there is a lot of unhappiness in the country. In my view, the requirement should have been 60% of votes to achieve a win, then no one could complain. As it is, there is a huge split right down the middle of the country, and we are left in a total mess. So with In being at about 48% and Out being at about 52% would one of them have to form a coalition with Shake It All About in order to take the country forward?
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Originally posted by minted

So with In being at about 48% and Out being at about 52% would one of them have to form a coalition with Shake It All About in order to take the country forward?

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 25 Jun 16 8.07pm
Originally posted by minted This is what bothers me. From a total of 46.5 million eligible to vote, this result has been carried by just 1.4 million, i.e. 3%. No wonder there is a lot of unhappiness in the country. In my view, the requirement should have been 60% of votes to achieve a win, then no one could complain. As it is, there is a huge split right down the middle of the country, and we are left in a total mess. I wonder if you'd have called 'foul' or been so anxious for a rerun had Remain won by a similar margin. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 25 Jun 16 8.07pm

Originally posted by minted

I wonder if you'd have called 'foul' or been so anxious for a rerun had Remain won by a similar margin.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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matt_himself Matataland 25 Jun 16 8.08pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Really? Anyway to quote you yesterday.. People voted against the socialist social engineering project that is the EU. Face it, you and your sort lost Firstly, some of my sort didn't lose because they voted Brexit. So the question did any of my sort vote for Brexit yes or no? Secondly the EU is a neoliberal project, quite the opposite of socialism. Leave it Gusset. You are arguing for the sake of arguing. Go and have a pint or something. I am not rising to your provocation because I have answered this and you, like the country, need to move on. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 25 Jun 16 8.08pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Really?

Anyway to quote you yesterday.. People voted against the socialist social engineering project that is the EU.
Face it, you and your sort lost

Firstly, some of my sort didn't lose because they voted Brexit. So the question did any of my sort vote for Brexit yes or no?
Secondly the EU is a neoliberal project, quite the opposite of socialism.

Leave it Gusset. You are arguing for the sake of arguing.

Go and have a pint or something. I am not rising to your provocation because I have answered this and you, like the country, need to move on.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Part Time James 25 Jun 16 8.08pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt I wonder if you'd have called 'foul' or been so anxious for a rerun had Remain won by a similar margin. I bet the answer to this would be if Leave couldn't raise 60% then we'd default to a Remain status....3...2....1...
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25 Jun 16 8.08pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

I wonder if you'd have called 'foul' or been so anxious for a rerun had Remain won by a similar margin.

I bet the answer to this would be if Leave couldn't raise 60% then we'd default to a Remain status....3...2....1...

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johnno42000 25 Jun 16 8.11pm
Didn't Farage say that if the vote was close the fight would go on? Mind you the leave side also said about the 350 million as well. 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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25 Jun 16 8.11pm

Didn't Farage say that if the vote was close the fight would go on? Mind you the leave side also said about the 350 million as well.

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 25 Jun 16 8.23pm
Originally posted by matt_himself Leave it Gusset. You are arguing for the sake of arguing. Go and have a pint or something. I am not rising to your provocation because I have answered this and you, like the country, need to move on. Evade evade evade...
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Shizzlehurst 25 Jun 16 8.23pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Leave it Gusset. You are arguing for the sake of arguing.

Go and have a pint or something. I am not rising to your provocation because I have answered this and you, like the country, need to move on.

Evade evade evade...

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Bill E Pilgrim New Addington 25 Jun 16 8.25pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt You're only saying that because your opinion did not prevail. It's a churlish attitude to democracy, Kermie me boy, and bears all the hallmarks of the sourest of grapes. 3% is too small a margin for such a big change, especially as BREXITers are already backing away from major elements of their campaign which look like they won by coning people with the support of the big selling papers which owned by people who don't even live here. I can see why poor areas shafted by neoliberalism and austerity voted out. But the leaders are neoliberals who pushed austerity. It was a big fat con.
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt

You're only saying that because your opinion did not prevail. It's a churlish attitude to democracy, Kermie me boy, and bears all the hallmarks of the sourest of grapes.

3% is too small a margin for such a big change, especially as BREXITers are already backing away from major elements of their campaign which look like they won by coning people with the support of the big selling papers which owned by people who don't even live here.

I can see why poor areas shafted by neoliberalism and
austerity voted out. But the leaders are neoliberals who pushed austerity. It was a big fat con.

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Part Time James 25 Jun 16 8.39pm
Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim 3% is too small a margin for such a big change, especially as BREXITers are already backing away from major elements of their campaign which look like they won by coning people with the support of the big selling papers which owned by people who don't even live here. I can see why poor areas shafted by neoliberalism and austerity voted out. But the leaders are neoliberals who pushed austerity. It was a big fat con. Called it!
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25 Jun 16 8.39pm

Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim

3% is too small a margin for such a big change, especially as BREXITers are already backing away from major elements of their campaign which look like they won by coning people with the support of the big selling papers which owned by people who don't even live here.

I can see why poor areas shafted by neoliberalism and
austerity voted out. But the leaders are neoliberals who pushed austerity. It was a big fat con.

Called it!

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-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 25 Jun 16 8.41pm
Originally posted by minted This is what bothers me. From a total of 46.5 million eligible to vote, this result has been carried by just 1.4 million, i.e. 3%. No wonder there is a lot of unhappiness in the country. In my view, the requirement should have been 60% of votes to achieve a win, then no one could complain. As it is, there is a huge split right down the middle of the country, and we are left in a total mess. Another unhappy soul who never put forward this proposal prior to the vote, for some reason? What bothers me is that we never had a vote to join this 'project' in the first place. Time to move forward together.
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Alphabettispaghetti 25 Jun 16 8.41pm

Originally posted by minted

This is what bothers me. From a total of 46.5 million eligible to vote, this result has been carried by just 1.4 million, i.e. 3%. No wonder there is a lot of unhappiness in the country.
In my view, the requirement should have been 60% of votes to achieve a win, then no one could complain. As it is, there is a huge split right down the middle of the country, and we are left in a total mess.

Another unhappy soul who never put forward this proposal prior to the vote, for some reason?

What bothers me is that we never had a vote to join this 'project' in the first place.

Time to move forward together.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 25 Jun 16 8.44pm
Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim 3% is too small a margin for such a big change, especially as BREXITers are already backing away from major elements of their campaign which look like they won by coning people with the support of the big selling papers which owned by people who don't even live here. I can see why poor areas shafted by neoliberalism and austerity voted out. But the leaders are neoliberals who pushed austerity. It was a big fat con. If you have a referendum where a pre-set margin validates the result, you end up with three possible outcomes instead of two: Remain (because it's won outright), Remain (because Leave didn't win by a big enough margin) or Leave (Leave wins outright). It's precisely because opinion was so divided that there was a referendum in the first place. To require a specific margin weighs the balance unfairly in favour of Remain. In other words, a fix. Edited by Cucking Funt (25 Jun 2016 8.45pm) Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 25 Jun 16 8.44pm

Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim

I can see why poor areas shafted by neoliberalism and
austerity voted out. But the leaders are neoliberals who pushed austerity. It was a big fat con.

If you have a referendum where a pre-set margin validates the result, you end up with three possible outcomes instead of two: Remain (because it's won outright), Remain (because Leave didn't win by a big enough margin) or Leave (Leave wins outright).

It's precisely because opinion was so divided that there was a referendum in the first place. To require a specific margin weighs the balance unfairly in favour of Remain. In other words, a fix.

Edited by Cucking Funt (25 Jun 2016 8.45pm)

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