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 davenotamonkey  31 May 17 9.13pm |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
Seriously even if you are the most loyal Tory in the world, how can anyone possibly defend Theresa May not participating in this leaders debate? I think it's a disgrace for anyone to claim they are the strongest leader yet too weak and scared to debate anyone. Mental It's almost like she doesn't debate during PMQ's each and every week. Was Wee Kranky also "too weak and scared"? Corbyn only decided to join the debate this morning. Was he too "weak and scared" until this morning? Then Seamus fed him his Shredded Wheat, sorry, Granola, and then he got all brave? A BBC debate is merely one of many engagements with the public during the GE. To suggest that a BBC badge somehow endorses this as *THE* debate of the election is a little sad. If anything, I hope today has killed this pointless showcasing inheritance from US politics.
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| Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 31 May 17 9.14pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Sturgeon wasn't there either, can anyone possibly defend her? Is she a disgrace too. Yes, with tartan knobs on.
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| Mstrobez 31 May 17 9.15pm |
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Originally posted by susmik
She has more sense than to stand amongst those other idiots that cannot debate and with the "hand" picked audience it makes it all one big joke. The thing is I've seen your previous posts and you're not stupid so surely you don't really believe that's the reason do you? She doesn't want to debate because she doesn't have the nerve or skill set, simple as that.
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| Mstrobez 31 May 17 9.19pm |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
It's almost like she doesn't debate during PMQ's each and every week. Was Wee Kranky also "too weak and scared"? Corbyn only decided to join the debate this morning. Was he too "weak and scared" until this morning? Then Seamus fed him his Shredded Wheat, sorry, Granola, and then he got all brave? A BBC debate is merely one of many engagements with the public during the GE. To suggest that a BBC badge somehow endorses this as *THE* debate of the election is a little sad. If anything, I hope today has killed this pointless showcasing inheritance from US politics. She won't participate in any televised debate. She cannot campaign to the electorate without carefully choosing who will challenge her and the scale of the challenge. She hasn't had to face a flicker of scrutiny since calling this election on. Forget what side you're on, this is clear.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 31 May 17 9.24pm |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
The thing is I've seen your previous posts and you're not stupid so surely you don't really believe that's the reason do you? She doesn't want to debate because she doesn't have the nerve or skill set, simple as that. If the outcome of the election hinged on pantomimes like this, I think you'd have a point. But it doesn't and it won't. And this wasn't even a debate - just a bunch of people shouting at each other with a partisan crowd thrown in. I think she's come out of it pretty well, and without firing a shot. Anyone making their mind up about who to vote for based on a shouting match needs help. Edited by Cucking Funt (31 May 2017 9.25pm)
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 31 May 17 9.52pm |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
She won't participate in any televised debate. She cannot campaign to the electorate without carefully choosing who will challenge her and the scale of the challenge. She hasn't had to face a flicker of scrutiny since calling this election on. Forget what side you're on, this is clear. I have some sympathy with May regarding Brexit. No one knows what it is going to look like and she can't be seen to be giving up anything even before negotiations have started. As far as the electorate go, it has been a very bizarre campaign, especially as she had quite a high personal rating. I don't know why she has chosen to hide away.
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| Mstrobez 31 May 17 10.46pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I have some sympathy with May regarding Brexit. No one knows what it is going to look like and she can't be seen to be giving up anything even before negotiations have started. As far as the electorate go, it has been a very bizarre campaign, especially as she had quite a high personal rating. I don't know why she has chosen to hide away. I was genuinely rooting for her (as much as I can root for a Tory) up until she called this election but this whole campaign seems to of exposed a lot of her weakness. She seems to be many of the things her and others label Corbyn and I personally think God help us if this is the one to lead the country and brexit negotiations. "No deal is better than a bad deal" is quite obviously a true statement - shouting that from the roof tops every 10 minutes is an extremely naive strategy in my opinion though. Edited by Mstrobez (31 May 2017 10.52pm)
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| Mstrobez 31 May 17 10.50pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
If the outcome of the election hinged on pantomimes like this, I think you'd have a point. But it doesn't and it won't. And this wasn't even a debate - just a bunch of people shouting at each other with a partisan crowd thrown in. I think she's come out of it pretty well, and without firing a shot. Anyone making their mind up about who to vote for based on a shouting match needs help. Edited by Cucking Funt (31 May 2017 9.25pm) I agree to a certain extent but at the end of the day it all adds up and throughout this campaign she's appeared to be either completely disinterested or just simply out of her depth. One things for sure, this whole slogan of "strong and stable" is complete bulls***. Edited by Mstrobez (31 May 2017 10.51pm)
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| davenotamonkey 31 May 17 11.28pm |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
I agree to a certain extent but at the end of the day it all adds up and throughout this campaign she's appeared to be either completely disinterested or just simply out of her depth. One things for sure, this whole slogan of "strong and stable" is complete bulls***. Edited by Mstrobez (31 May 2017 10.51pm) "Strong and stable" or "No deal is better than a bad deal" - terrible soundbite politics, but here's the reality: The alternative is Corbyn. That would be neither strong nor stable given sentiment in the PLP. Corbyn has indicated he would never walk away if the EU offered him a terrible deal. It actually doesn't matter how terrible May is. The choice is May or Corbyn. With Corbyn (by proxy) on any ballot paper, there can only ever be one choice for me. Not Corbyn. Every. Single. Day.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 01 Jun 17 12.51am |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
"Strong and stable" or "No deal is better than a bad deal" - terrible soundbite politics, but here's the reality: The alternative is Corbyn. That would be neither strong nor stable given sentiment in the PLP. Corbyn has indicated he would never walk away if the EU offered him a terrible deal. It actually doesn't matter how terrible May is. The choice is May or Corbyn. With Corbyn (by proxy) on any ballot paper, there can only ever be one choice for me. Not Corbyn. Every. Single. Day.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 01 Jun 17 7.41am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
He's doing a lot better than you imagined though. You've got to concede that at least. Yes he certainly is. However, the Tories' campaign has been the worst by a party that I can remember. I think they should have made more use of Boris Johnson and David Davis. Boris was on TV this morning and came across well.
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| Midlands Eagle 01 Jun 17 8.15am |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
surely you don't really believe that's the reason do you? She doesn't want to debate because she doesn't have the nerve or skill set, simple as that. Not true as her weekly performances in Prime Ministers Question Time show where she regularly makes mince meat out of Corbyn Why should she join these bun fights as we are voting for a government and not a president so it doesn't really matter who represents the Conservatives as long as somebody does.
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