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 Stirlingsays  09 Dec 20 12.12am |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Yep. I'd like to see odds on that getting anything other than rejected I mean, it does intrigue me to wonder why, now all these lawsuits have played out, and failed (bar one, I believe) that people think the next one will succeed? Surely the 40+ previous failures effectively all based on the same claim should act as some sort of guide? 'The Texas suit claims 'rampant lawlessness' and cites some of the same claims that have either been debunked or thrown out of court already.' Literally repackaging the same s*** over and over again. If it failed once, it's probably going to fail again. But y'know, you're free to try Besides didn't the 6-3 supreme court just unanimously reject a lawsuit today? 6 republican judges, of which 3 are trump appointees. Unanimous. The time is fast approaching to cut losses on any hasty bets that may or may not have been made
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 SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 09 Dec 20 12.34am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Well, I suppose only if you feel that there was a genuine case to answer. I'm still of the opinion that if there was wrongdoing on as epic a scale as some believe, it would be literally impossible to hide. And you can't lump all the blame on the judicial system – it is composed of democrats AND republicans. So really the suggestion is then that the republicans know about it and are sitting on it simply to preserve the political system. I think that's ridiculous – if there was evidence they'd be the first ones to tear into the democrats, it's a win win outcome – republicans win the next 4 elections. Minimum. Why would anyone vote for a party that was proven to have rigged an election? The only logical conclusion is that there is, and has never been any significant evidence to support the claims made in the lawsuits. That doesn't mean there hasn't been any wrongdoing, but it does mean that it would not have made any difference to the outcome. Everything else is irrational, partisan and for the birds Edited by SW19 CPFC (09 Dec 2020 12.41am)
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| Stirlingsays 09 Dec 20 12.42am |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Well, I suppose only if you feel that there was a genuine case to answer. I'm still of the opinion that if there was wrongdoing on as epic a scale as some believe, it would be literally impossible to hide. And you can't lump all the blame on the judicial system – it is composed of democrats AND republicans. So really the suggestion is then that the republicans know about it and are sitting on it simply to preserve the political system. I think that's ridiculous – if there was evidence they'd be the first ones to tear into the democrats, it's a win win outcome – republicans win the next 4 elections. Minimum. Why would anyone vote for a party that was proven to have rigged an election? The only logical conclusion is that there is, and has never been any significant evidence to support the claims made in the lawsuits. That doesn't mean there hasn't been any wrongdoing, but it does mean that i won't have made any difference to the outcome. Everything else is irrational, partisan and for the birds What's depressing is the prospect of a Biden presidency.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 09 Dec 20 12.48am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
What's depressing is the prospect of a Biden presidency. ha. well yes maybe, frankly they're both massively uninspiring. I'm still amazed the dems couldn't find someone better than Biden. Although not sure what that says about Trump losing to him.
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| Stirlingsays 09 Dec 20 1.02am |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
ha. well yes maybe, frankly they're both massively uninspiring. I'm still amazed the dems couldn't find someone better than Biden. Although not sure what that says about Trump losing to him. If he had equal media support and mail in ballots weren't used I don't see Trump losing. Now that the Democrats are in they will flood the US with migrants and give them the vote. So as a conservative I don't see them coming back within a united states context.
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BlueJay  UK 09 Dec 20 4.45am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
If he had equal media support and mail in ballots weren't used I don't see Trump losing. Now that the Democrats are in they will flood the US with migrants and give them the vote. So as a conservative I don't see them coming back within a united states context. It's a country of immigrants. The world moves on, son. Edited by BlueJay (09 Dec 2020 5.08am)
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Well, I suppose only if you feel that there was a genuine case to answer. I'm still of the opinion that if there was wrongdoing on as epic a scale as some believe, it would be literally impossible to hide. And you can't lump all the blame on the judicial system – it is composed of democrats AND republicans. So really the suggestion is then that the republicans know about it and are sitting on it simply to preserve the political system. I think that's ridiculous – if there was evidence they'd be the first ones to tear into the democrats, it's a win win outcome – republicans win the next 4 elections. Minimum. Why would anyone vote for a party that was proven to have rigged an election? The only logical conclusion is that there is, and has never been any significant evidence to support the claims made in the lawsuits. That doesn't mean there hasn't been any wrongdoing, but it does mean that it would not have made any difference to the outcome. Everything else is irrational, partisan and for the birds Edited by SW19 CPFC (09 Dec 2020 12.41am) The AG making this call is currently under investigation by the FBI. I expect both the dream and potential promise of a pardon factors in somewhere along the line. Politics 101 Edited by BlueJay (09 Dec 2020 5.08am)
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| Stirlingsays 09 Dec 20 12.44pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
It's a country of immigrants. The world moves on, son. Edited by BlueJay (09 Dec 2020 5.08am) It was mostly Europeans up until 65 and they were a colonizing force....hardly the same kind of immigrants....that's a leftist meme. Though I do have some sympathy with the idea that Europeans should be in Europe....not the Americas. As for the 'world moves on'.....Oh yes, but I want it to move on how I wish, which is unlikely to coincide with how you view things. I believe my vision leads to a more content world with less overall conflict. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Dec 2020 1.07pm)
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| Matov 09 Dec 20 1.18pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
What's depressing is the prospect of a Biden presidency. It is the single thing I struggle to understand about so many of the people cheering this on. Prior to Trump all we heard was people saying that all politicians were the same, they the US should keep its nose out of foreign conflicts and so on and on. Trump comes along as the complete antidote to this, starts pulling the US out of foreign conflicts, puts loads of jobs out there and generally does what he says he will on the tin. Yet now it turns out that what many Soc.libs actually want IS a US that interferes in foreign affairs and sees it as a positive that the US loses jobs (of course not their own). OK, I get why Trump pissed people off but Biden? Seriously? A man bought and paid for by every major global corporation on the planet. And no a squeak of out-rage when Billionaire after Billionaire did their best to influence the outcome be it Bloomberg in Florida or the likes of Twitter censoring negative stories about Biden. Tip of the iceberg stuff. It is like many on the left sold their souls because Trump upset them.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Dec 20 2.13pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It was mostly Europeans up until 65 and they were a colonizing force....hardly the same kind of immigrants....that's a leftist meme. Though I do have some sympathy with the idea that Europeans should be in Europe....not the Americas. As for the 'world moves on'.....Oh yes, but I want it to move on how I wish, which is unlikely to coincide with how you view things. I believe my vision leads to a more content world with less overall conflict. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Dec 2020 1.07pm) If you follow that logic to its conclusion everyone should return to Africa as that's where all our ancestors originated. We very rarely get all we want. Democracy demands compromises and respect for other points of view.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Dec 20 2.29pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
It is the single thing I struggle to understand about so many of the people cheering this on. Prior to Trump all we heard was people saying that all politicians were the same, they the US should keep its nose out of foreign conflicts and so on and on. Trump comes along as the complete antidote to this, starts pulling the US out of foreign conflicts, puts loads of jobs out there and generally does what he says he will on the tin. Yet now it turns out that what many Soc.libs actually want IS a US that interferes in foreign affairs and sees it as a positive that the US loses jobs (of course not their own). OK, I get why Trump pissed people off but Biden? Seriously? A man bought and paid for by every major global corporation on the planet. And no a squeak of out-rage when Billionaire after Billionaire did their best to influence the outcome be it Bloomberg in Florida or the likes of Twitter censoring negative stories about Biden. Tip of the iceberg stuff. It is like many on the left sold their souls because Trump upset them. There is a huge difference between wanting the USA to allow people to manage their own affairs peacefully, and not seek to impose their particular vision of the right way to run a country, and wanting them to help protect the weak, vulnerable and disadvantaged from being oppressed. Fighting communism just because you don't like it isn't welcome. Protecting those from a tyrant is. As there are some tyrants who claim to be communists the differences can escape the naive. Trump is a crook. Pure and simple. He is unfit to hold that office. That people like Bloomberg and Soros have supported the Democrats in their determination to remove Trump and steady the ship of state with a Biden stop gap has nothing to do with self-interest. Its patriotism, a love of the rule of law, ethics and morals. It's the true values of the Christian faith that so many Americans claim to hold but fail to either understand or deliver. My daughter used to work for Bloomberg and spent some time in his company. She knows what motivates him and has nothing but good to say about him. Him spending his money this way is akin to Bill Gates helping vaccine research. They care and want to help while they can and don't trust government to do it on their own.
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| Stirlingsays 09 Dec 20 2.38pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
If you follow that logic to its conclusion everyone should return to Africa as that's where all our ancestors originated. We very rarely get all we want. Democracy demands compromises and respect for other points of view. Africa or Asia or both.....The 'Africa first' theory has had recent additions. You aren't following the logic actually. Nothing in the logic suggests that migration into unsettled lands shouldn't happen. However, history shows that major migration into settled lands is the importation of conflict. As for not getting what we want....errr, how were you behaving and compromising with Trump's four years....you weren't. No, in my view, the Democrats will reap what they sowed and have no cause for complaint. I've stated previously and I'll state it again. For conservatism to survive in the US the republicans have to separate Let the Democrats live their corporate commie, multicultural violent degenerate dystopia. Try saying that all in one go. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Dec 2020 2.52pm)
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