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jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Aug 16 1.22pm
Originally posted by bexleydave Which is fine when you're bargaining from a position of strength and, if you don't get what you want, you can comfortably walk away, knowing that another good deal is just around the corner. However, when you're bent over a barrel with your pants down and a huge wedge poking out of your lowered strides, and the seller doesn't give a f*** whether you pay up or piss off, you're not really in a position to start talking tough. Edited by bexleydave (16 Aug 2016 1.08pm) Just like its very easy to say how other people should spend their money. Even Liverpool don't think he's worth 32.5m and they'll settle for less if they have to. Thing is, they can wait the three weeks, and it'll only cost them 360,000 in wages and in return they'll probably be able to leverage a 28m fee upfront and good add on options. Someone is going to pay it. And he's probably the best we can get. I'd have thought that the money for Bolaise makes paying some of that extra a bit easier now. Apparently we've agreed terms with Beneteke (at 120k a week, or a flat rate of 6.24m per year... Yep, his salary a year will eventually amount to more than it cost to get the club out of administration in 2010, including actually buying the club... But the reality is also if he does well, he'll be off, so we have to ensure we can turn a profit or break even. And if he doesn't work out, and we're stuck with him, he could seriously damage our capacity to negotiate wages with existing players and bring in new players. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 16 Aug 16 1.22pm

Originally posted by bexleydave

Which is fine when you're bargaining from a position of strength and, if you don't get what you want, you can comfortably walk away, knowing that another good deal is just around the corner. However, when you're bent over a barrel with your pants down and a huge wedge poking out of your lowered strides, and the seller doesn't give a f*** whether you pay up or piss off, you're not really in a position to start talking tough.

Edited by bexleydave (16 Aug 2016 1.08pm)

Just like its very easy to say how other people should spend their money. Even Liverpool don't think he's worth 32.5m and they'll settle for less if they have to. Thing is, they can wait the three weeks, and it'll only cost them 360,000 in wages and in return they'll probably be able to leverage a 28m fee upfront and good add on options. Someone is going to pay it.

And he's probably the best we can get. I'd have thought that the money for Bolaise makes paying some of that extra a bit easier now.

Apparently we've agreed terms with Beneteke (at 120k a week, or a flat rate of 6.24m per year...

Yep, his salary a year will eventually amount to more than it cost to get the club out of administration in 2010, including actually buying the club...

But the reality is also if he does well, he'll be off, so we have to ensure we can turn a profit or break even.

And if he doesn't work out, and we're stuck with him, he could seriously damage our capacity to negotiate wages with existing players and bring in new players.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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chateauferret 16 Aug 16 1.25pm
I'm in the Kilted Skirlie at Loch Lomomd Shores in Balloch. Fish and chips is £11. I offered the waitress £8 now and another £2.50 if I didn't throw up before 6pm. She told me to f*** off. Am I doing something wrong? ============ The Ferret ============
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16 Aug 16 1.25pm

I'm in the Kilted Skirlie at Loch Lomomd Shores in Balloch. Fish and chips is £11.

I offered the waitress £8 now and another £2.50 if I didn't throw up before 6pm.

She told me to f*** off.

Am I doing something wrong?

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The Ferret
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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 16 Aug 16 1.28pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Just like its very easy to say how other people should spend their money. Even Liverpool don't think he's worth 32.5m and they'll settle for less if they have to. Thing is, they can wait the three weeks, and it'll only cost them 360,000 in wages and in return they'll probably be able to leverage a 28m fee upfront and good add on options. Someone is going to pay it. And he's probably the best we can get. I'd have thought that the money for Bolaise makes paying some of that extra a bit easier now. Apparently we've agreed terms with Beneteke (at 120k a week, or a flat rate of 6.24m per year... Yep, his salary a year will eventually amount to more than it cost to get the club out of administration in 2010, including actually buying the club... But the reality is also if he does well, he'll be off, so we have to ensure we can turn a profit or break even. And if he doesn't work out, and we're stuck with him, he could seriously damage our capacity to negotiate wages with existing players and bring in new players. We will be in the championship so it will be a moot point. whichever way you spin it Jamie, this is embarrassing and piss poor form from a club that continually harps on about progression and "making the next step" well bloody do it then. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 16 Aug 16 1.28pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

And he's probably the best we can get. I'd have thought that the money for Bolaise makes paying some of that extra a bit easier now.

Apparently we've agreed terms with Beneteke (at 120k a week, or a flat rate of 6.24m per year...

Yep, his salary a year will eventually amount to more than it cost to get the club out of administration in 2010, including actually buying the club...

But the reality is also if he does well, he'll be off, so we have to ensure we can turn a profit or break even.

And if he doesn't work out, and we're stuck with him, he could seriously damage our capacity to negotiate wages with existing players and bring in new players.

We will be in the championship so it will be a moot point.

whichever way you spin it Jamie, this is embarrassing and piss poor form from a club that continually harps on about progression and "making the next step" well bloody do it then.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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rikz Croydon 16 Aug 16 1.28pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 It makes sense, if I could save 10m on what could be the most expensive white elephants foot in Crystal Palace history, I'd be cautious too. Their club, their rules I guess. Because even if I had Parish and co's wealth, I'm not sure I'd have bought the club I love and adore. Its actually like paying so that people can hate you and complain that your not willing to burn money to make them happy. And if he does, and Beneteke doesn't work out, it'll be his fault, if he doesn't its his fault and if we does the glory business, fans will slap themselves on the back and say 'I said Beneteke was the answer' And also cement millions more in tv money, sponsership, comercial deals and maybe even more from outside investment. I understand your point but if he was a success the club would get hell of a lot more than a pat on the back.
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rikz

Croydon 16 Aug 16 1.28pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

It makes sense, if I could save 10m on what could be the most expensive white elephants foot in Crystal Palace history, I'd be cautious too.

Their club, their rules I guess. Because even if I had Parish and co's wealth, I'm not sure I'd have bought the club I love and adore. Its actually like paying so that people can hate you and complain that your not willing to burn money to make them happy.

And if he does, and Beneteke doesn't work out, it'll be his fault, if he doesn't its his fault and if we does the glory business, fans will slap themselves on the back and say 'I said Beneteke was the answer'

And also cement millions more in tv money, sponsership, comercial deals and maybe even more from outside investment.
I understand your point but if he was a success the club would get hell of a lot more than a pat on the back.

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steph_eagle Thornton Heath 16 Aug 16 1.29pm
Now I've stayed out of here but this did amuse me JamesPearceEcho Benteke would have had to win Wimbledon, the British Grand Prix and MasterChef for the £7million worth of add-ons to be triggered. #LFC
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steph_eagle

Thornton Heath 16 Aug 16 1.29pm

Now I've stayed out of here but this did amuse me

JamesPearceEcho
Benteke would have had to win Wimbledon, the British Grand Prix and MasterChef for the £7million worth of add-ons to be triggered. #LFC

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Joshy 16 Aug 16 1.29pm
Originally posted by bexleydave Really? Just remind me how long we've been on this deal? Unless you mean the Adebayor-type signing at 2259h on 31st? This isn't January and we're talking about a damn sight more money being spent than a free player than had been out of contract for several months. The deal has run on for no other reason than the demands being unrealistic. Answer me this, we pay all this money, he rocks up, starts most of the season but gets 9 goals as per his form the last two seasons. Do you think we'll be able to find another gullible club for a full refund?
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Joshy

16 Aug 16 1.29pm

Originally posted by bexleydave

Really? Just remind me how long we've been on this deal? Unless you mean the Adebayor-type signing at 2259h on 31st?

This isn't January and we're talking about a damn sight more money being spent than a free player than had been out of contract for several months.

The deal has run on for no other reason than the demands being unrealistic.

Answer me this, we pay all this money, he rocks up, starts most of the season but gets 9 goals as per his form the last two seasons. Do you think we'll be able to find another gullible club for a full refund?

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Aray South London 16 Aug 16 1.30pm
Gamesmanship or realistic prices? Parish spends CPFC's money like its his (hang on....) but if Benteke has got a dodgy knee then the impasse maybe makes sense? Explains why the bindippers want all the cash upfront? I'm sure we'll get someone good through the door
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Aray

South London 16 Aug 16 1.30pm

Gamesmanship or realistic prices? Parish spends CPFC's money like its his (hang on....) but if Benteke has got a dodgy knee then the impasse maybe makes sense? Explains why the bindippers want all the cash upfront? I'm sure we'll get someone good through the door

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Cpfcprem 16 Aug 16 1.30pm
Originally posted by Jacey You are correct with your assumptions. It has been a very Sp quote , bevause of the sky money no club wants to embaress themselves re transfers, So far gayle sold 10 mill with a 1 in 3 goals and assists against minutes played ratio Bid 20 million for betahino scored 1 in 6 against minutes and no addists Sold bolasie 25 million with a 1 in 3 goals assists agsinst minutes Bid 31, 5 million for a striker showing his hand to every prem club Bid 23 mill uofront for brnteke all be it eith add ons so benteke worth less then bolasie Your making us look cheap and incapable and small fry , stop acting like a second hand car salesman , get rid of the attitude the yellow ferrari and the tight suit and start acting like a club owner rather then a chsncer, your making our football club thats right ours not yours look ridiculous the farcebas reached riddicule point, idiot
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16 Aug 16 1.30pm

Originally posted by Jacey

You are correct with your assumptions.
It has been a very

Sp quote , bevause of the sky money no club wants to embaress themselves re transfers,
So far
gayle sold 10 mill with a 1 in 3 goals and assists against minutes played ratio
Bid 20 million for betahino scored 1 in 6 against minutes and no addists
Sold bolasie 25 million with a 1 in 3 goals assists agsinst minutes
Bid 31, 5 million for a striker showing his hand to every prem club
Bid 23 mill uofront for brnteke all be it eith add ons so benteke worth less then bolasie

Your making us look cheap and incapable and small fry , stop acting like a second hand car salesman , get rid of the attitude the yellow ferrari and the tight suit and start acting like a club owner rather then a chsncer, your making our football club thats right ours not yours look ridiculous the farcebas reached riddicule point, idiot

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npn Crowborough 16 Aug 16 1.32pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Just like its very easy to say how other people should spend their money. Even Liverpool don't think he's worth 32.5m and they'll settle for less if they have to. Thing is, they can wait the three weeks, and it'll only cost them 360,000 in wages and in return they'll probably be able to leverage a 28m fee upfront and good add on options. Someone is going to pay it. And he's probably the best we can get. I'd have thought that the money for Bolaise makes paying some of that extra a bit easier now. Apparently we've agreed terms with Beneteke (at 120k a week, or a flat rate of 6.24m per year... Yep, his salary a year will eventually amount to more than it cost to get the club out of administration in 2010, including actually buying the club... But the reality is also if he does well, he'll be off, so we have to ensure we can turn a profit or break even. And if he doesn't work out, and we're stuck with him, he could seriously damage our capacity to negotiate wages with existing players and bring in new players. I really think we should have moved on weeks ago. Liverpool have a player they over-payed for, that is not Palace's problem. If they won't drop their demands, let them keep him. We should have had two or three other options lined up, and with 25m+ burning a hole in our pockets, it shouldn't be hard. This strikes me as a case of all eggs being in one basket, and we'll get our pants pulled down accordingly (and I'm still not confident it will work out even if he does come)
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npn

Crowborough 16 Aug 16 1.32pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

And he's probably the best we can get. I'd have thought that the money for Bolaise makes paying some of that extra a bit easier now.

Apparently we've agreed terms with Beneteke (at 120k a week, or a flat rate of 6.24m per year...

Yep, his salary a year will eventually amount to more than it cost to get the club out of administration in 2010, including actually buying the club...

But the reality is also if he does well, he'll be off, so we have to ensure we can turn a profit or break even.

And if he doesn't work out, and we're stuck with him, he could seriously damage our capacity to negotiate wages with existing players and bring in new players.

I really think we should have moved on weeks ago. Liverpool have a player they over-payed for, that is not Palace's problem. If they won't drop their demands, let them keep him. We should have had two or three other options lined up, and with 25m+ burning a hole in our pockets, it shouldn't be hard. This strikes me as a case of all eggs being in one basket, and we'll get our pants pulled down accordingly (and I'm still not confident it will work out even if he does come)

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bexleydave Barnehurst 16 Aug 16 1.33pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Just like its very easy to say how other people should spend their money. Even Liverpool don't think he's worth 32.5m and they'll settle for less if they have to. Thing is, they can wait the three weeks, and it'll only cost them 360,000 in wages and in return they'll probably be able to leverage a 28m fee upfront and good add on options. Someone is going to pay it. And he's probably the best we can get. I'd have thought that the money for Bolaise makes paying some of that extra a bit easier now. Apparently we've agreed terms with Beneteke (at 120k a week, or a flat rate of 6.24m per year... Yep, his salary a year will eventually amount to more than it cost to get the club out of administration in 2010, including actually buying the club... But the reality is also if he does well, he'll be off, so we have to ensure we can turn a profit or break even. And if he doesn't work out, and we're stuck with him, he could seriously damage our capacity to negotiate wages with existing players and bring in new players. That's just Championship talk; we're playing with the big boys now. We've just received considerably more than Bolasie was worth and we also received way more for Gayle than we might have expected, if we want him, we're going to have to pay a premium price. If we don't want to pay big money, then we'll have to take a risk on an untried and untested candidate from the lower leagues or abroad and hope he can make the step up. Constant references to administration are becoming boring and passé. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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Barnehurst 16 Aug 16 1.33pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

And he's probably the best we can get. I'd have thought that the money for Bolaise makes paying some of that extra a bit easier now.

Apparently we've agreed terms with Beneteke (at 120k a week, or a flat rate of 6.24m per year...

Yep, his salary a year will eventually amount to more than it cost to get the club out of administration in 2010, including actually buying the club...

But the reality is also if he does well, he'll be off, so we have to ensure we can turn a profit or break even.

And if he doesn't work out, and we're stuck with him, he could seriously damage our capacity to negotiate wages with existing players and bring in new players.

That's just Championship talk; we're playing with the big boys now. We've just received considerably more than Bolasie was worth and we also received way more for Gayle than we might have expected, if we want him, we're going to have to pay a premium price. If we don't want to pay big money, then we'll have to take a risk on an untried and untested candidate from the lower leagues or abroad and hope he can make the step up. Constant references to administration are becoming boring and passé.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 16 Aug 16 1.34pm
Originally posted by Joshy This isn't January and we're talking about a damn sight more money being spent than a free player than had been out of contract for several months. The deal has run on for no other reason than the demands being unrealistic. Answer me this, we pay all this money, he rocks up, starts most of the season but gets 9 goals as per his form the last two seasons. Do you think we'll be able to find another gullible club for a full refund? Which is nearly double our top goalscorer from last season !! And what demands pray tell are unrealistic, that they want something more like the figure they have quoted ??? what is wrong with that. Benteke is a good player with the right service wide balls into the box and coming from deep, exactly how Villa and the dippers used to play until klippety Klop turned up. He's also been injured and doesnt suit their style of play, but would suit ours. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 16 Aug 16 1.34pm

Originally posted by Joshy

This isn't January and we're talking about a damn sight more money being spent than a free player than had been out of contract for several months.

The deal has run on for no other reason than the demands being unrealistic.

Answer me this, we pay all this money, he rocks up, starts most of the season but gets 9 goals as per his form the last two seasons. Do you think we'll be able to find another gullible club for a full refund?

Which is nearly double our top goalscorer from last season !!

And what demands pray tell are unrealistic, that they want something more like the figure they have quoted ??? what is wrong with that.

Benteke is a good player with the right service wide balls into the box and coming from deep, exactly how Villa and the dippers used to play until klippety Klop turned up. He's also been injured and doesnt suit their style of play, but would suit ours.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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Stirlingsays 16 Aug 16 1.37pm
The player is overvalued, time to move on. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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16 Aug 16 1.37pm

The player is overvalued, time to move on.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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