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 matt_himself  Matataland 10 Oct 16 1.49pm |
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Here is a poll conducted by a 'Neoliberal' right wing periodical, giving the Tories a 17% lead:
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| matt_himself Matataland 11 Oct 16 8.59am |
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This is where one, unelected, Corbyn acolytes lives: It's a world away from those they claim to support and further evidence of how detached they are from the reality ordinary people experience on a daily basis.
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| OknotOK Cockfosters, London 11 Oct 16 9.50am |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
This is where one, unelected, Corbyn acolytes lives: It's a world away from those they claim to support and further evidence of how detached they are from the reality ordinary people experience on a daily basis. By Corbyn acolyte, you mean incredibly successful barrister who has been involved in politics for years? So not a Corbyn acolyte at all?
"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show |
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 11 Oct 16 10.32am |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
By Corbyn acolyte, you mean incredibly successful barrister who has been involved in politics for years? So not a Corbyn acolyte at all? Against Grammar Schools - but not of course, for her son. £18,000 a year Dulwich College if you please Her Neighbours are apparently poor and use food banks
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| We are goin up! Coulsdon 11 Oct 16 11.31am |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Her Neighbours are apparently poor and use food banks
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. |
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| OknotOK Cockfosters, London 11 Oct 16 11.36am |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Against Grammar Schools - but not of course, for her son. £18,000 a year Dulwich College if you please Her Neighbours are apparently poor and use food banks Well Dulwich College isn't a grammar school, but I take the point. Those on the Left are always faced with the dilemma. Do you do what is right for society - and grammar schools are definitively wrong for society - or do you do what is right for your own flesh and blood? It's a decision that many struggle with. It's a struggle my own parents were faced with, and one I will be faced with as well (although I think I am less dogmatic about it). The hypocrisy on the Right - demanding a smaller state, while happily accepting state education, state pensions, and state healthcare - is the same. But the idea that the wealthy can't be interested in the improvement of the poor is ridiculous. I should also say she doesn't have to be that wealthy to afford that house (although she is very successful so I would think she is wealthy). Had she bought a house for a relatively low sum a number of years ago, you don't need much to be able to step up. I have friends who bought properties in Hackney, Finsbury Park, etc. for a pittance a number of years ago which suddenly allows them to buy houses worth comfortably over a million just because of rises in house prices.
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| matt_himself Matataland 11 Oct 16 11.37am |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
By Corbyn acolyte, you mean incredibly successful barrister who has been involved in politics for years? So not a Corbyn acolyte at all? She is, politically, a Corbyn acolyte, who appears to be prepared to sacrifice her convictions for a political career: She is a rich woman playing politics because she can afford to.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Oct 16 11.44am |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
She is, politically, a Corbyn acolyte, who appears to be prepared to sacrifice her convictions for a political career: She is a rich woman playing politics because she can afford to. At home among the comments on there Matthew?
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 Hrolf The Ganger 11 Oct 16 12.33pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
She is, politically, a Corbyn acolyte, who appears to be prepared to sacrifice her convictions for a political career: She is a rich woman playing politics because she can afford to. Like most Labour MP's, she is a hypocrite who talks up socialism to sell her party and therefore further her career.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Oct 16 12.52pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Like most Labour MP's, she is a hypocrite who talks up socialism to sell her party and therefore further her career. An Salesman? Never heard of her. Rather than taking potshots, why don't you engage in the grammar school debate.
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 11 Oct 16 12.52pm |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
Well Dulwich College isn't a grammar school, but I take the point. Those on the Left are always faced with the dilemma. Do you do what is right for society - and grammar schools are definitively wrong for society - or do you do what is right for your own flesh and blood? It's a decision that many struggle with. It's a struggle my own parents were faced with, and one I will be faced with as well (although I think I am less dogmatic about it). The hypocrisy on the Right - demanding a smaller state, while happily accepting state education, state pensions, and state healthcare - is the same. But the idea that the wealthy can't be interested in the improvement of the poor is ridiculous. I agree 100%, but when it's a Tory apparently they are just too rich to know what it is like for the ordinary man/woman For me, Grammar schools are a bit like private medicine. Used correctly it frees resources for the rest of us and it is in affect a voluntary tax on the wealthy. The rub of course is ensuring that they are used correctly
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 11 Oct 16 12.55pm |
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As an aside, whilst I rarely agreed with Shami Chakrabarti, I always had respect for her. It does now feel like she has sold her soul for 13 pieces of silver
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