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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 May 20 9.56pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Why would whites feel less british then? I didn't write the report so can only speculate. Maybe because a number of them feel European these days?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 May 20 10.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Look at the people already convinced, many are brothers, uncles and cousins etc. You say pakistani people feel more British than native British. Utter b@llocks. These people choose when to feel British which is generally when it suits them.
Some people cover up for family. It's there in all sections of society. Not all though, and that's the point you and others are failing to recognise or engage with. I didn't say that pakistani British people feel more British that the ethnic British! I referenced a report that does. Argue with the publisher if you disagree.
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Teddy Eagle 10 May 20 10.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I didn't write the report so can only speculate. Maybe because a number of them feel European these days? Yep. Like all those Germans, Italians, Spaniards and Frenchmen who put aside all national differences for the common good.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 May 20 10.08pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
It suits them to be British when they know they can take the piss but rely on the media and social justice warriors to protect them from the seething masses of racist white British people, apparently. Of course, also protected by law and, now, it seems even more protected, so as to be untouchable when they molest children. At least, certainly unreportable and anonymous even when found guilty. British justice at its best. All the benefits of Britain with no attempt at the slightest bit of integration in return You are making the sweeping generalisations that I am suggesting will make this issue worse and delay solving it. As I see no benefit at all in targeting the whole pakistani community why do it? If you want the grooming gang outrage brought to an end, and the perpetrators jailed, then don't say things that might discourage witnesses from coming forward.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 May 20 10.14pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Yep. Like all those Germans, Italians, Spaniards and Frenchmen who put aside all national differences for the common good. What relevance has that got to how a British citizen feels about being British? I expect in all those countries there will be a goodly proportion of xenophobes and a larger number who now feel European before their own nationality at birth.
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Teddy Eagle 10 May 20 10.17pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What relevance has that got to how a British citizen feels about being British? I expect in all those countries there will be a goodly proportion of xenophobes and a larger number who now feel European before their own nationality at birth. You suggested they may feel European. I’m suggesting no one feels European any more than anyone feels South American.
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Spiderman Horsham 10 May 20 10.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Did I say anything about "racial harmony"? Whilst clearly desirable it has nothing at all to do with what I am saying. The ONLY point is to try to solve the crimes as speedily as possible by enlisting everyone in the effort and not alienating a section of them. Why on earth you think to do that equals sweeping it under the carpet, when precisely the reverse is true, I have no idea. Why you think any University will have a political view beats me. Only the individuals who are employed by them have such views. I only quoted what someone else reported their survey found. I haven't checked the report or studied their methodology but on face value it paints a very different picture to the perceptions many seem to have. Solve the crimes as quickly as possible! These have been going on for 20 years.
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cryrst The garden of England 10 May 20 10.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I didn't write the report so can only speculate. Maybe because a number of them feel European these days? Maybe they feel pushed out by the favouritism for sections of non white people. Look at mayor khant rattling on about more pro rata bame deaths atm.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 May 20 11.32pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
You suggested they may feel European. I’m suggesting no one feels European any more than anyone feels South American. That's simply untrue. Some of my own family categorise themselves as European these days and I suspect that it is a lot more common than you might imagine.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 May 20 11.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Solve the crimes as quickly as possible! These have been going on for 20 years. Yes as quickly as possible because they cannot be solved yesterday. They can only be solved in the future. The people who work and study at any uni are going to have a varied political outlook. It's not who writes reports that matters. It's what we can learn from them. Even if you question the findings it makes an interesting assertion.
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Teddy Eagle 10 May 20 11.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That's simply untrue. Some of my own family categorise themselves as European these days and I suspect that it is a lot more common than you might imagine. That is the false consensus effect. Your family represent themselves not 750,000,000 other people. Your suspicions are not evidence.
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dannyboy1978 11 May 20 6.42am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There you go, doing exactly what I suggested ought not be done. Let's for the sake or argument say you are right and some pakistani families knew what was going on and did nothing. There are ethnic British families who keep schtum too when their relatives commit crime. Most don't and not all pakistani one's do either but are more likely to with the sort of attitude you are showing. Would you say that Tariq Ali, for instance, would fit your description? Or Moeen Ali? Just as examples. There are many more. This is an interesting snippet which ought to make you pause and think. A report conducted by The University of Essex found that British pakistanis identify with 'Britishness' more than any other Britons. The study is one of several recent studies that have found that pakistanis in Britain express a strong sense of belonging in Britain. The report showed that 90% of pakistanis feel a strong sense of belonging in Britain compared to 84% of white Britons. Do you really think it's wise to risk changing that? How many street parties and british bunting was flying for VE day in the Asian communities compared to white community's.?
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