Labour were hoping that the endless stream of immigrants would mean that they would win the election for ever more. Unfortunately they have been so useless that the only people who still vote for them are people that have just learned to tie their shoe laces or are ex miners.
Sorry I forgot the few champaign socialists who haven't moved abroad.

Edited by TheJudge (28 Apr 2015 7.06pm)

Wish I hadn't waded into you lot trolling each other now.

But I do think the lack of a credible left wing party at this election is striking. Say what you like about UKIP, they have an effective leader and an excellent electoral record.

Wish I hadn't waded into you lot trolling each other now.

But I do think the lack of a credible left wing party at this election is striking. Say what you like about UKIP, they have an effective leader and an excellent electoral record.

In your haste to have a rather pathetic dig at Labour and any of the millions (plainly all far less intelligent than you) who vote for them, and to refer again to your pet topic of immigrants (when not posting about your new other pet topic of race), you overlook that EU nationals (other than Irish citizens) do not have the vote in parliamentary elections here.But don't let that stand in the way of blind prejudice and/or perhaps being unable to even thread the veritable shoelaces into the shoe in the first place.

Edited by legaleagle (28 Apr 2015 10.16pm)

I didn't misunderstand you.

As I understand it,you have a major problem about the number of immigrants coming to the UK.A large part in numbers are from EU countries.I had understood you from posts in the past to take the view that ceasing EU free movement was a key step in your oft expressed desire to stem overall immigration into the UK.

Of course,non commonwealth national immigrants from outside the EU can't vote here in parliamentary elections either.

According to a House of Commons briefing report on migration in 2014, c.two thirds of immigrants come from EU or non Commonwealth countries,so can't vote in parliamentary elections.

The prejudices I was referring to?Just your inane ones expressed in your post I was responding to.

Hope you are getting on well with the shoe laces

My first point was that unlike the impression the Judge's original post gave (which I was correcting) ,the majority of recent immigrants can't even vote in the coming election.

You cannot necessarily make the assumptions you do.Those recent migrants that can vote will only be those migrants from Commonwealth countries and Ireland.

This will include students and the many highly skilled people who come to work in an international centre like London.

We have the equivalent of a points-based system in operation for most non EU immigration so it cannot be assumed the average Commonwealth national migrant coming here now would necessarily be low skilled/educated.Commonwealth migrants also include citizens of Australia,New Zealand, Canada and South Africa.

According to ukimmigration.com,the "points-based" categories (ie you have to score enough points to get the visa)are:

"Tier 1 Visas: For highly skilled migrants, entrepreneurs, investors, and graduate students. This has replaced the previous Highly Skilled Migrant Programme (HSMP), the Entrepreneur and Investor schemes, and the International Graduates Scheme.
Tier 2 Visas: This is for skilled workers, professional sports people, and clergy members who have a job offer or arrangement with a UK organization that requires their services for an extended period of time. This tier will replaced the previous UK Work Permit rules.
Tier 3 Visas: This tier is for a limited numbers of lower skilled workers to fill temporary shortages in the labour market. The UK has indefinitely suspended plans to implement this tier.
Tier 4 Visas: International Students.
Tier 5 Visas: For youth mobility and temporary workers, such as those who come under Working Holiday agreements with other countries. It will also covers temporary volunteer workers, sports people taking part in events, and visiting clergy."

It cannot be assumed Commonwealth migrants recently arrived will vote en bloc for Labour.

For myself,I think the right of commonwealth and Irish nationals to vote is an anomaly,a hangover from long gone days of Empire,long due for abolition (In Australia,for example,they changed the rules,which had been similar, so British nationals arriving after 1984 can't vote in federal elections)and I would limit the vote in parliamentary elections to UK nationals,but that's off topic.

Edited by legaleagle (29 Apr 2015 12.53am)