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 elgrande  bedford 07 Oct 16 8.15pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I'm sure it was a Thatcher government that stopped new grammars from opening. Ericsson no she gave the OK to back to grammer but John Major said he would open a grammer school in every town,but was turned down by the public.
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 07 Oct 16 8.18pm |
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Nick, what do you think of the Palace academy?
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| carlonoil Naples 07 Oct 16 8.50pm |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Oct 16 9.18pm |
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Originally posted by carlonoil
[Link] I know... You couldn't make it up! Mind you I'm sure I saw on some front page that Blair was going to be in charge of Europe.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Oct 16 9.29pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Nick, what do you think of the Palace academy? Well it's a facking farce that they train at 'goals' on copers cope. Granted it's only over the road from our Beckenham training ground but they need to be around the first teams. I could go on about how Clyne and wilf are the last 2 to have graduated to regularly hold down a place or that there are some who've done well elsewhere. Or how I feel a lack of a reserve league in football means players are loaned out when they come out of the academy for 'match experience ' rather than keeping them at the club to learn how to play 'our way's. You could listen to a future holradio.net pod where we'll probably broach the subject.
Edited by nickgusset (07 Oct 2016 9.30pm)
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 07 Oct 16 9.50pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Well it's a facking farce that they train at 'goals' on copers cope. Granted it's only over the road from our Beckenham training ground but they need to be around the first teams. I could go on about how Clyne and wilf are the last 2 to have graduated to regularly hold down a place or that there are some who've done well elsewhere. Or how I feel a lack of a reserve league in football means players are loaned out when they come out of the academy for 'match experience ' rather than keeping them at the club to learn how to play 'our way's. You could listen to a future holradio.net pod where we'll probably broach the subject.
Edited by nickgusset (07 Oct 2016 9.30pm) I do listen to the podcast from time to time and generally enjoy it though sometimes it lacks a bit of direction and drifts. You are actually quite good on it Anyhow the point of me asking is simple, why is it ok to streamline gifted sportsmen & women but not the academically bright? Surely whatever gift a child has, they should have the opportunity to flourish in said discipline?
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 07 Oct 16 10.05pm |
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Surprised more hasn't been about the local elections last night
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Kermit8  Hevon 07 Oct 16 10.27pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I do listen to the podcast from time to time and generally enjoy it though sometimes it lacks a bit of direction and drifts. You are actually quite good on it Anyhow the point of me asking is simple, why is it ok to streamline gifted sportsmen & women but not the academically bright? Surely whatever gift a child has, they should have the opportunity to flourish in said discipline? 100 per cent agree. My mate, though, cleverly has managed to coach his son into the local top grammar school by hiring the right out of school tutors because he can afford to in order for his boy to pass the tough entrance exam. The more academically gifted but not so well off would perhaps not be lucky enough to have that advantage. I'm assuming loads of parents who can afford it do it too. Get their not so bright kid into the good school.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Oct 16 11.11pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
100 per cent agree. My mate, though, cleverly has managed to coach his son into the local top grammar school by hiring the right out of school tutors because he can afford to in order for his boy to pass the tough entrance exam. The more academically gifted but not so well off would perhaps not be lucky enough to have that advantage. I'm assuming loads of parents who can afford it do it too. Get their not so bright kid into the good school. My son is wasn't coached. Save for letting him crack on with a few practise papers. Loads in his cohort are well off kids who were coached through the eleven + and are floundering now. It's not a fair system when a bright kid's family can't afford any tutoring. Sure there will be some from poorer backgrounds get through, but when the average percentage of kids on free school meals at grammars in England is 3, you can soon see thats not very many. If selection was changed I'd have less issue with it. But we live within a system where cash is king. I've turned down loads of 11+ tutoring opportunities and could make a fair few quid from them! But it's skewing the system in favour of those that can afford it and denying someone who are talented.
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 07 Oct 16 11.13pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
100 per cent agree. My mate, though, cleverly has managed to coach his son into the local top grammar school by hiring the right out of school tutors because he can afford to in order for his boy to pass the tough entrance exam. The more academically gifted but not so well off would perhaps not be lucky enough to have that advantage. I'm assuming loads of parents who can afford it do it too. Get their not so bright kid into the good school. I'm sure that plenty do it and that's a flaw in the system. As with my sports analogy there should be a "scouting system" that doesn't rely on someone's ability to pass a test. My daughter is not particularly academic, she has danced since she was 4 and is at a school with a performing bias. She had to audition to get in as we are on the far side of the borough. She will never be good enough to dance professionally but she is getting a good grounding in the various disciplines including stage lighting, make up, sound etc. She would like to do professional make up when she is older. I am not sure she would have found something she is so passionate about at a normal comp.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Oct 16 11.16pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
I do listen to the podcast from time to time and generally enjoy it though sometimes it lacks a bit of direction and drifts. You are actually quite good on it Anyhow the point of me asking is simple, why is it ok to streamline gifted sportsmen & women but not the academically bright? Surely whatever gift a child has, they should have the opportunity to flourish in said discipline?
Also most sports are very niche, you're comparing that with edumacation which affects all kids. Thanks for the holradio compliment.Glad you enjoy it.
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| Inapickle South West 08 Oct 16 12.36am |
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..very soon children will be plugged into a computer, the computer will decide where they go.
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