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 Spiderman  Horsham 28 Jan 21 9.17am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Well, the glen is calling. Murray?
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| Spiderman Horsham 28 Jan 21 9.20am |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
It's kicking-off, as the EU realises it put its vaccine order in quite late. "Back of the queue mate. Others were here before you" [Link] (BBC Website) This comes after crisis talks which both sides described as "constructive". AstraZeneca earlier said it could deliver only a fraction of the doses it promised in January-March, blaming production issues at European plants. But the EU said the firm must honour its commitments and deliver the jabs by diverting stock from the UK." (BBC website) The EU is not negotiating from a position of strength Perhaps the EU should have clarified the wording of the contract. Not as good as they think they are. Luckily we have been able to go it alone, haven’t seen many comments from remainers about this.
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| Stirlingsays 28 Jan 21 9.51am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Murray?
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 28 Jan 21 2.46pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Well, the glen is calling. It"s the pipes mate-from the glen.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 28 Jan 21 3.20pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Perhaps the EU should have clarified the wording of the contract. Not as good as they think they are. Luckily we have been able to go it alone, haven’t seen many comments from remainers about this. I don't mind. From the EU perspective they want priority and this contract delivered on time. They have invested enormously, the set up, the tax-free inducements, all the usual, the money up-front, to start another pharmaceutical money-spinner for the super-rich. They cannot do anything about UK vaccines produced here for the UK market, but they can if EU vaccines were diverted to the UK before. So inspectors will be in there, and there is breaching the contract etc. The firm clearly did not have the ability to supply what they agreed to, it was just capitalist greed. Pharmaceutical firms have a special place on my hate list. I imagine I have cancer and the only available remedy is from Roche at a million pounds a lozenge. It is no good, and I die beyond my means.....
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 28 Jan 21 3.28pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I don't mind. From the EU perspective they want priority and this contract delivered on time. They have invested enormously, the set up, the tax-free inducements, all the usual, the money up-front, to start another pharmaceutical money-spinner for the super-rich. They cannot do anything about UK vaccines produced here for the UK market, but they can if EU vaccines were diverted to the UK before. So inspectors will be in there, and there is breaching the contract etc. The firm clearly did not have the ability to supply what they agreed to, it was just capitalist greed. Pharmaceutical firms have a special place on my hate list. I imagine I have cancer and the only available remedy is from Roche at a million pounds a lozenge. It is no good, and I die beyond my means.....
When they approved all of the other vaccines but not the UK one, they did it to themselves. Any legal action they take will only result in equal lawsuits against them for this very reason. Plus there is also the fact that the other vaccines have not been delivered on time or to schedule but little being said about that. The whole EU programme for vaccination is failing, has already failed largely.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 28 Jan 21 3.31pm |
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I also heard this morning that AZ had called off talks with the EU. Whether that has happened or not, I don't know for sure. The AZ vaccine was supposed to get EU approval tomorrow.
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BlueJay  UK 28 Jan 21 4.07pm |
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Quote Pfizer and BioNTech say their vaccine has been shown to be effective against coronavirus variants that emerged in Britain and South Africa.
They said the virus mutations had only a small impact on the effectiveness of antibodies generated by the vaccine. Pfizer said it would continue to monitor its "real-world effectiveness" against new strains. Earlier this week Moderna said its vaccine was also effective against the British variant but gave less protection against the South African one. It is developing a booster shot to tackle the mutation. Very good news for those receiving the Pfizer vaccine (and hopefully others too) Edited by BlueJay (28 Jan 2021 4.10pm)
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| BlueJay UK 28 Jan 21 4.10pm |
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Quote Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine is showing 92 percent effectiveness in Israel, according to the world’s first big controlled investigation on how it works outside of clinical tests.
Only 31 out of 163,000 Israelis vaccinated by Maccabi Healthcare Services caught coronavirus in their first 10 days of full-strength protection, its top vaccine statistics analyst, Anat Ekka Zohar, told The Times of Israel on Thursday. In an equivalent sample of unvaccinated Israelis, some 6,437 were diagnosed in the same timeframe. “This is very, very good news,” Ekka Zohar said. “It is the first study in the world that looks at such a large number of fully vaccinated patients.”
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| Stirlingsays 28 Jan 21 4.10pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
It"s the pipes mate-from the glen. You should check them out then. I'll stay on this troubled bridge and watch the water.
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| Stirlingsays 28 Jan 21 4.30pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Quote Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine is showing 92 percent effectiveness in Israel, according to the world’s first big controlled investigation on how it works outside of clinical tests.
Only 31 out of 163,000 Israelis vaccinated by Maccabi Healthcare Services caught coronavirus in their first 10 days of full-strength protection, its top vaccine statistics analyst, Anat Ekka Zohar, told The Times of Israel on Thursday. In an equivalent sample of unvaccinated Israelis, some 6,437 were diagnosed in the same timeframe. “This is very, very good news,” Ekka Zohar said. “It is the first study in the world that looks at such a large number of fully vaccinated patients.” Oh thank god for that....the state of Israel is going to pull through. I was betting on Botswana but those plucky fiddlers are nailing it.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 28 Jan 21 4.57pm |
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The EU i getting more schizophrenic about Astra Zenica According to the Germans our vaccine is no good for the elderly but just in case hand it over or else.
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