So for you it isn't 'racist' to say, 'black and proud'.

But it is 'racist' to say, 'white and proud'.

Historical claims either way are besides the point. I would never say to a black person you can't be proud of being black and shouldn't say it because of reason A from historical period B. They can choose whatever reason they like and there are plenty of different 'takes' on it.

You on the other hand appear to be demonising white people because of your selective view of history.....Yet you start your post claiming your aren't 'anti white'.

You said you were a traditional conservative Wisbech. Tell me, which Conservative in history ever held these views about white people?

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Just when Titania McGrath’s run was meant to be at an end.

I wouldn't be proud to say it because I was never one for tribal groups and saw the skinhead cult as just another version of the mods and rockers phenomenon of my own youth, which I also avoided. So long though as it does no harm I have no real issue with it, although some who belonged did not appear to be very attractive characters to me.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Well essentially you are on here stating that it's fine for black people to state 'black and proud' but there are 'racist attitudes' around saying 'white and proud'.

I'm ok for others to conclude as to where the 'racism' is there. The previous posts are there to read. I defend your right to hold hypocritical views on race if you want to....you certainly aren't alone. But you are rightly open to criticism for these views from the right....well, I know some on the left who wouldn't like them as well.

I asked you to tell me which Conservative in history has publicly stated your views on white people here. You failed to provide one.

I certainly can't think of one and that's even amongst the ridiculous collection we have at the moment.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Apr 2019 2.15pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Racism is born out of ignorance and immaturity, both attributes being displayed on this thread

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

I know exactly why you believe this but your attitude has very short term credibility which is quickly running out.

We all know about recent Black history in the West but the idea that one group has to retain guilt for this history and be deprived of racial pride while everyone else can freely express it is bonkers.

It is as racist as you can get.

Slavery and subsequent persecution of Black people was a symptom of the prevailing circumstances. It was a consequence of human behaviour that has probably existed since there have been humans. It was a tiny blip in the grand scheme of history.

If you think that one particular demographic should feel an endless responsibility for that and have to hang their heads till the end of time, then you are a lunatic.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Apr 2019 5.05pm)