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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Oct 17 9.36pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

He is highlighting the contradiction regarding your defence of Islamic immigration, a religion which is well known for it's backward treatment of women, while you wet your knickers about an outbreak of female outrage because some Hollywood scumbag practised the age old and well known casting couch routine.
Had it occured to you that a primary objection to Islamic immigration is the spreading of such backward, sexist and non progressive ideas? I have said it enough times. But that is racist according to you and your jolly buch of zealots.

Wrong. I haven't said either way what I think about Islamic immigration.
What I have said is I don't like the scapegoating of Muslims.

Now, back to the subject in hand...

With all the allegations going on, should some offences be deemed 'of their time' and a zero tolerance enacted from now with no further action?
This leads though to the question of what is the tipping point of what constitutes an actionable offence (ie those not covered by the amnesty I've suggested)
How much truth is there in the reports that Tory whips and TM are well aware that sexual harrasment and other 'misdemeanors' have taken place, but are not reporting it so that the info held could be used to persuade mp's to vote a certain way?

Edited by nickgusset (30 Oct 2017 9.49pm)

 

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legaleagle Flag 30 Oct 17 9.42pm


Jesus wept.

I sit next to a practising muslim woman at work.I know for sure who is the more tolerant (and more repressed)out of her and Hrolf in their general attitudes.

It may be doubted as to whether he's actually personally known a muslim in his life..

As for "caribbean-style mentality" of our youth tosh,has Hrolf actually examined the latest stats released by the Met covering 2015-16 re knife crime...very significant numbers of white and other non- Caribbean origin youngsters...Knife crime is indeed a serious concern of our time...but has very British roots in this country and featured heavily in "our" culture in the 19th century.Perhaps there was even a Hrolf the Eveready to use a blade in Victorian Norwood?

Meanwhile,some people on here accuse Nick G of being a bigot and a racist....strange days indeed,as John Lennon put it.


 

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Stirlingsays Flag 30 Oct 17 9.45pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Wrong. I haven't said either way what I think about Islamic immigration.
What I have said is I don't like the scapegoating of Muslims.

Sure, you don't like what in your opinion is the scapegoating of Muslims.

But you have also gone far further than that.

You attack anyone with any ideas on reducing Islamic terrorist activity....Do you support the 'prevent' program...I can't remember. I've never read you putting forward any ideas yourself. I read a lot of complaining from you that we aren't concerned enough about the far smaller problem of far right extremists here.

I also remember you linking to an attack on an Islamic reformer.

As far as I can tell you are in unison with someone like Kermit on this issue.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 30 Oct 17 9.53pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle


Jesus wept.

I sit next to a practising muslim woman at work.I know for sure who is the more tolerant (and more repressed)out of her and Hrolf in their general attitudes.

It may be doubted as to whether he's actually personally known a muslim in his life..

As for "caribbean-style mentality" of our youth tosh,has Hrolf actually examined the latest stats released by the Met covering 2015-16 re knife crime...very significant numbers of white and other non- Caribbean origin youngsters...Knife crime is indeed a serious concern of our time...but has very British roots in this country and featured heavily in "our" culture in the 19th century.Perhaps there was even a Hrolf the Eveready to use a blade in Victorian Norwood?

Meanwhile,some people on here accuse Nick G of being a bigot and a racist....strange days indeed,as John Lennon put it.


I've worked with quite a few Muslims within IT over the years.

Two of them were people I quite liked and both of them had issues with the affect of religion in their families.

Every person is an individual. But we can describe behaviours and opinions of a group, because that's what surveys give us.

So lets just say that when you look at what the Pew data says.....Hrolf has little on quite a few Muslims per hundred people in the UK.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Oct 2017 9.54pm)

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 30 Oct 17 9.54pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Wrong. I haven't said either way what I think about Islamic immigration.
What I have said is I don't like the scapegoating of Muslims.

Not about what you say. I know why you say it.
It's the obvious consequence of an increased Islamic population, which you support, with regard to women's rights in Britain compared with your reaction to the few examples of unspecified abuse of Western women who happen to enjoy wide rangings freedoms that their ancestors and many women worldwide would dream about.

Comparatively they are light years apart.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (30 Oct 2017 9.55pm)

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 30 Oct 17 9.59pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I've worked with quite a few Muslims within IT over the years.

Two of them were people I quite liked and both of them had issues with the affect of religion in their families.

Every person is an individual. But we can describe behaviours and opinions of a group, because that's what surveys give us.

So lets just say that when you look at what the Pew data says.....Hrolf has little on quite a few Muslims per hundred people in the UK.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Oct 2017 9.54pm)

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Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (30 Oct 2017 10.26pm)

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Oct 17 10.00pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Sure, you don't like what in your opinion is the scapegoating of Muslims.

But you have also gone far further than that.

You attack anyone with any ideas on reducing Islamic terrorist activity....Do you support the 'prevent' program...I can't remember. I've never read you putting forward any ideas yourself. I read a lot of complaining from you that we aren't concerned enough about the far smaller problem of far right extremists here.

I also remember you linking to an attack on an Islamic reformer.

As far as I can tell you are in unison with someone like Kermit on this issue.

Attack anyone who puts forward an idea on reducing terrorist activity? Well yes if their idea is to intern thousands without trial.

I said that cuts to border and police services haven't helped. Not one person agreed with me, just started going on about always going on about the government.
I mentioned an increase in bobbies on the beat, getting to know their community. Proper policing where they can tell if something's up because they know the beat so well. Gaining the trust of locals, which may lead to finding out snippets of information. How many police stations have closed in the last 7 years?

Going round calling all Muslims c***s (which many people do, not necessarily here - though I'm sure there are more than one or two - however much you deny it) is hardly going to help race relations is it.

Now equal rights for wimmin...

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Oct 17 10.02pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Not about what you say. I know why you say it.
It's the obvious consequence of an increased Islamic population, which you support, with regard to women's rights in Britain compared with your reaction to the few examples of unspecified abuse of Western women who happen to enjoy wide rangings freedoms that their ancestors and many women worldwide would dream about.

Comparatively they are light years apart.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (30 Oct 2017 9.55pm)

Blimey, how many times?

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

Attack anyone who puts forward an idea on reducing terrorist activity? Well yes if their idea is to intern thousands without trial.

I said that cuts to border and police services haven't helped. Not one person agreed with me, just started going on about always going on about the government.
I mentioned an increase in bobbies on the beat, getting to know their community. Proper policing where they can tell if something's up because they know the beat so well. Gaining the trust of locals, which may lead to finding out snippets of information. How many police stations have closed in the last 7 years?

Going round calling all Muslims c***s (which many people do, not necessarily here - though I'm sure there are more than one or two - however much you deny it) is hardly going to help race relations is it.

Now equal rights for wimmin...

This is so like you. Don't fudge the issue.

We are talking about the contradiction between supporting the spread of Islamic attitudes toward women and getting all militant about a few misbehaving men.

It is massively disproportionate and contradictory attitude.

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

Blimey, how many times?

Until you stop avoiding the obvious I suppose.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Oct 17 10.11pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This is so like you. Don't fudge the issue.

We are talking about the contradiction between supporting the spread of Islamic attitudes toward women and getting all militant about a few misbehaving men.

It is massively disproportionate and contradictory attitude.


The fact that this thread has turned into a bash Muslims thread kind of proves what I've been saying elsewhere.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Oct 17 10.13pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You are in denial. You might think it's OK for women to have to cover from head to foot but I don't. I also don't think that people who have been indoctrinated from birth are in a good position to be objective.

They feel they have power being covered from head to toe, going out to buy chicken or mutton and vegetables everyday, sometimes leaving husband at home with multiple wife, apparently. We're behind the times and thinking.

 


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