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Mapletree Flag Croydon 19 Oct 17 3.33pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

All these PC puritans!......Could you get on a plane to the west coast of America and leave the rest of us to it please.

Fecking hell!

I know you love me really.

Not quite sure how I was PC on this occasion though.

In any case no, I don't particularly like the US. I prefer central Europe and South East Asia in truth.

It's funny though, cos it ain't me that's fecked off and left Croydon. So the rest of you have left me to get on with it.

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 19 Oct 17 3.37pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Children get a pass with language for several reasons. For one, you are a subject teacher, not an individual there to explore controversial topics outside of your area.

Secondly a teacher has to work in the 'eggshells' environment you like. Students can easily make complaints and parents and administration get drawn into often ridiculous situations.....much of which are down to perception like the situation under discussion.

I regard this as a very negative situation that ill prepares children for the reality of the world....but them the apples that our so called 'elites' pass down.

As for sex between teachers and students. I've always been of the view that sexuality doesn't belong in pursuits of the mind. First we rightly have the age of consent and then we have the conflict of interest of a person f***ing a person in their care and grading them.....not good.

In situations of higher education I don't agree with some of where we are but I understand why the law is what it is. If you aren't teaching someone and they are a student above the age of consent at college or university then I regard the law as having over extended itself for emotive reasons that cross over the rights of the individual.....But I think it's rightly frowned upon in the profession...because...well, like I say these are pursuits of the mind and there's an argument to be made about exploitation of impressionable minds.....but there is huge hypocrisy because this happens in pretty much every workplace as well.

Laws are different in different countries and there are plenty of marriages that exist now that would be illegal here.....it's a touchy subject.


Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Oct 2017 3.19pm)

Ah yes, so much better in the good old days when Cyril Smith was a Governor.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 19 Oct 17 3.51pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Ah yes, so much better in the good old days when Cyril Smith was a Governor.


So eggshells or Cyril Smith? Blimey.

But at least it isn't PC.....say how you feel.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Oct 2017 3.53pm)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 19 Oct 17 3.56pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I know you love me really.

Not quite sure how I was PC on this occasion though.

In any case no, I don't particularly like the US. I prefer central Europe and South East Asia in truth.

It's funny though, cos it ain't me that's fecked off and left Croydon. So the rest of you have left me to get on with it.

Not let it bother you...I've had Rudi going on about appropriate language in offices all day and I'm a bit ranty.

You're right....you're holding the fort....Not a security job I'd want in Croydon but still.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 19 Oct 17 4.21pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Not let it bother you...I've had Rudi going on about appropriate language in offices all day and I'm a bit ranty.

You're right....you're holding the fort....Not a security job I'd want in Croydon but still.

It's okay I'm going to try Sampson humour the first opportunity I get with someone I gauge may take offence, which isn't that difficult so I should be able to pick the target fairly easily. If it's in a social situation and I'm in deep embarrassment I'll show them this thread. If it's in a professional environment I'll have to hope the target accepts this thread was the reason for my social experiment and I don't have to experience any consequences from an unnecessary dig I didn't need to make to liven up 2 minutes. Fingers crossed.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 19 Oct 17 4.24pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

It's okay I'm going to try Sampson humour the first opportunity I get with someone I gauge may take offence, which isn't that difficult so I should be able to pick the target fairly easily. If it's in a social situation and I'm in deep embarrassment I'll show them this thread. If it's in a professional environment I'll have to hope the target accepts this thread was the reason for my social experiment and I don't have to experience any consequences from an unnecessary dig I didn't need to make to liven up 2 minutes. Fingers crossed.

Things a bit boring in Caterham today then?

You should try Croydon, always a laugh.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 19 Oct 17 4.30pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Things a bit boring in Caterham today then?

You should try Croydon, always a laugh.

Yes I'm never going to venture out of caterham again.

South Croydon is more peaceful than parts of caterham. Honestly!

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 19 Oct 17 4.33pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

It's okay I'm going to try Sampson humour the first opportunity I get with someone I gauge may take offence, which isn't that difficult so I should be able to pick the target fairly easily. If it's in a social situation and I'm in deep embarrassment I'll show them this thread. If it's in a professional environment I'll have to hope the target accepts this thread was the reason for my social experiment and I don't have to experience any consequences from an unnecessary dig I didn't need to make to liven up 2 minutes. Fingers crossed.

Maybe you can be a conduit by which some of this over sensitive victim/reward nonsense can be relieved.....or perhaps you'd just get in trouble....but obviously you're just making a point.

Like I said, you have to work within the environment you work in....so common sense applies....also civil behaviour is by default sensible behaviour.

What annoys me is how far the shift has moved...into a situation where if someone complains about offence that this is automatically valid. Whereas every situation is its own case. I hear this attitude from parents all the time...they pick it up from the culture....they think that how they view something should be how everyone must view it...Sometimes they have a point and sometimes not..and if it's about something racial or gender....wow..the ceiling comes down.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Oct 2017 4.36pm)

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 19 Oct 17 4.34pm

Actually it seems that most of the case in the news at present is more about how the FA completely f**ked up their investigation, and completely failed to properly handle allegations of racism, and then tried to completely spin the issue.

There's a surprise - FA incompetent.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 19 Oct 17 4.39pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

How exactly?

It is either racism or not. It is either an opportunity for politicians to bash the FA or not.
It is either something that someone dragged up when it suited them or not.

What I'm seeing here is people hiding behind their agendas and self interest regardless of the facts.
I guarantee that no one in football or public life will say what they really think. They are too afraid for their jobs or reputation. This is what we have come to in multi 'racial' Britain.

Well it was determined to be racist by the tribunal, and contravened the FA's own rules on racism. Which I guess is what counts here.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 19 Oct 17 4.41pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Children get a pass with language for several reasons. For one, you are a subject teacher, not an individual there to explore controversial topics outside of your area.

And he's a football coach, not a stand up comedian. What part of his coaching remit includes a comedy repertoire.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 Oct 17 4.46pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Well it was determined to be racist by the tribunal, and contravened the FA's own rules on racism. Which I guess is what counts here.

Never mind the very dodgy tribunal. Tell me how you think it's 'racist'.

 

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