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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 21 Aug 17 10.32pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Right, I am now going to say this bluntly.

It is you and one other person that has ruined Nick's posts for the rest of us. By constantly blindly attacking 'the left', whatever that means, you have become a damned nuisance. Get a life, think independently and lay off with all this party political nonsense. Stop forcing others into defending their positions ad nauseum.

This is not a political forum, it is a site to debate all sorts of things.

You are sufficiently boring to have really started irritating me. You hijack almost every post and are totally one-dimensional. Perhaps I am on my own in this case.

Edited by Mapletree (21 Aug 2017 8.27pm)

Gutted if I have ruined Nick's posts.
In future, perhaps I should PM drafts of my posts to you first so that you can vet them and rewrite as you think appropriate?

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 21 Aug 17 10.37pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Gutted if I have ruined Nick's posts.
In future, perhaps I should PM drafts of my posts to you first so that you can vet them and rewrite as you think appropriate?

Don't bother. If I really wanted to read the opinions of the Daily Mail I can always buy one for myself.

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 21 Aug 17 10.39pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by corkery

Their capital city is named after a man who had 600 slaves.

Which one? Aren't there three?

 

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wordup Flag 21 Aug 17 11.17pm

28% approve of Trump's response to Charlottesville [Link]

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 21 Aug 17 11.19pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Even the lefties don't like him on there.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 21 Aug 17 11.52pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 21 Aug 17 11.52pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

So what you are saying is that the government can't shut you up, but that private citizens can?

Are you sure that's how it works in practice?


The government cannot stop me from standing in front of the statue of Sam Houston (who stepped down from his post rather than join the Confederacy) holding a banner that says "All Nazis are disgusting, racists pigs!"

Now, the Nazis have the option to go to court to sue for an injunction (in advance) or defamation (after the fact) if they think I'm wrong. They can show up and counter my opinion directly at the time, too. But in court they have to show good cause as to why my opinion needs to be suppressed; otherwise, I'm free to continue.

It's why, for example, someone like Trump could continue to claim for years that Obama was born in Kenya and that he can prove it - without actually proving it. Now, Obama could have taken him to court (on his own behalf, not the government's) to get an injunction but, being the sitting President at the time, it would've looked horrible. So he released his full birth certificate, mocked Trump mercilessly about it to his face [Link] and let it go. Because there are some court fights you just can't win, even if you win.

It's not a perfect system by any stretch, but I think we're better off not having the sitting government decide what can and can't be talked about. More-so now than ever.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 22 Aug 17 12.00am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Ray in Houston


The government cannot stop me from standing in front of the statue of Sam Houston (who stepped down from his post rather than join the Confederacy) holding a banner that says "All Nazis are disgusting, racists pigs!"

Now, the Nazis have the option to go to court to sue for an injunction (in advance) or defamation (after the fact) if they think I'm wrong. They can show up and counter my opinion directly at the time, too. But in court they have to show good cause as to why my opinion needs to be suppressed; otherwise, I'm free to continue.

It's why, for example, someone like Trump could continue to claim for years that Obama was born in Kenya and that he can prove it - without actually proving it. Now, Obama could have taken him to court (on his own behalf, not the government's) to get an injunction but, being the sitting President at the time, it would've looked horrible. So he released his full birth certificate, mocked Trump mercilessly about it to his face [Link] and let it go. Because there are some court fights you just can't win, even if you win.

It's not a perfect system by any stretch, but I think we're better off not having the sitting government decide what can and can't be talked about. More-so now than ever.

The 'land of the free'. There are downsides to everything but overall I think America have this area pretty well balanced then.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 22 Aug 17 8.07am

Originally posted by Mapletree

Don't bother. If I really wanted to read the opinions of the Daily Mail I can always buy one for myself.

My posts are independent of newspapers, I don't read any (subscribe to the Spectator though, which I recommend). Which newspapers do you think I should read?

 


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davenotamonkey Flag 22 Aug 17 10.38am Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Just. f***. Off

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Stirlingsays Flag 22 Aug 17 10.47am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Just. f***. Off

[Link]

You just know that some of them would love to......Man, if that happened that would really 'fcuk' around with my head.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 22 Aug 17 10.48am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

My posts are independent of newspapers, I don't read any (subscribe to the Spectator though, which I recommend). Which newspapers do you think I should read?

I've decided to subscribe to the Spectator. I'll start next month.

 


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