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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Apr 17 3.21pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

.because in the past Labour governments have been shown time after time to spend 'now' rather than when the country can afford to do so.

Isn't that exactly how the economy has been run by the conservative government?

But aren't you from the same camp who complains about Tory cuts?

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Apr 17 3.26pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by matt_himself

I agree. I don't think gays are a threat to society. What baffles me is the lefts obsession with gay rights. I think that at he moment, if you are gay, Britain is a pretty decent place to live in. I believe that a lot of people talk about gay 'inequality' to make themselves feel superior or appear better to others.

That goes with the territory of liberal/left arrogance.
As I have suggested many times, appearing to occupy the moral and intellectual high ground is more important to them than harsh reality.

 

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 20 Apr 17 3.28pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Even if one of your siblings or children was gay?

And what if they're not? Then it doesn't.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Nest Flag 20 Apr 17 3.29pm Send a Private Message to Nest Add Nest as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
That goes with the territory of liberal/left arrogance.
As I have suggested many times, appearing to occupy the moral and intellectual high ground is more important to them than harsh reality.

This is the harsh reality

19 hospitals including five major acute hospitals to be closed, 24 A&E units marked for closure
3.7 million children living in poverty
over 20,000 fewer police officers, Violent crime up 22% in the 12 months to September 2016, 40% increase in reported hate crimes
910,000 UK workers on zero-hours contracts
Growth in UK living standards worst in 60 years
The number of people sleeping rough in England a 133% increase since 2010 over 4000 people
Tory Manifesto promised no rail fare hike for passengers but this January our rail fares climbed another 2.3%. Now up 27% overall
1 in 5 adults have had mental health problems because of their housing pressures
Britain's housing crisis is at its worst for 20 years
Schools Crisis in England
Prisons crisis
flat lining wages
Over 500,000 people using food banks

This is tory britain today, this is Reality

 

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 20 Apr 17 3.30pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Jezza is saying he is the 'anti establishment' candidate:

[Link]

Glad to see that he is apeing Donald Trump and UKIP by doing this.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 20 Apr 17 3.30pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

You don't read my posts any more

Oh, I do. I just find it entertaining arguing with Gusset. Nothing personal, old chap.


 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 20 Apr 17 3.31pm Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That goes with the territory of liberal/left arrogance.
As I have suggested many times, appearing to occupy the moral and intellectual high ground is more important to them than harsh reality.

That could be said of those on the right quite easily. They ignore problems and blame others.

This quote is from a book published by the OECD in 2015:

"The gap between rich and poor keeps widening. Growth, if any, has disproportionally benefited higher income groups while lower income households have been left behind. This long-run increase in income inequality not only raises social and political concerns, but also economic ones. It tends to drag down GDP growth, due to the rising distance of the lower 40% from the rest of society. Lower income people have been prevented from realising their human capital potential, which is bad for the economy as a whole."

Rising inequality is a direct result of right wing neo-classical ideological policies. This isn't arrogance or high ground - it's harsh reality. It's an inconvenient truth as to fix it would mean redistribution of wealth from the rich and powerful to people who don't vote for right wing parties anyway.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 20 Apr 17 3.33pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

But aren't you from the same camp who complains about Tory cuts?

Tory cuts are deliberately cruel aimed at the weak and disadvantaged.

There is no economic benefit in gruelling a disabled person why they have not committed suicide.

Just up your street though.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 20 Apr 17 3.33pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

That could be said of those on the right quite easily. They ignore problems and blame others.

This quote is from a book published by the OECD in 2015:

"The gap between rich and poor keeps widening. Growth, if any, has disproportionally benefited higher income groups while lower income households have been left behind. This long-run increase in income inequality not only raises social and political concerns, but also economic ones. It tends to drag down GDP growth, due to the rising distance of the lower 40% from the rest of society. Lower income people have been prevented from realising their human capital potential, which is bad for the economy as a whole."

Rising inequality is a direct result of right wing neo-classical ideological policies. This isn't arrogance or high ground - it's harsh reality. It's an inconvenient truth as to fix it would mean redistribution of wealth from the rich and powerful to people who don't vote for right wing parties anyway.

What do you mean by 'poor' and 'inequality'.

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 20 Apr 17 3.34pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Don't you mean T.E. rather than D.H.

I have just done a 'Jamiesearch' and there are articles on the internet suggesting that DH Lawrence was fond of 'a bit of Freddy'.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Apr 17 3.39pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Nest

This is the harsh reality

19 hospitals including five major acute hospitals to be closed, 24 A&E units marked for closure
3.7 million children living in poverty
over 20,000 fewer police officers, Violent crime up 22% in the 12 months to September 2016, 40% increase in reported hate crimes
910,000 UK workers on zero-hours contracts
Growth in UK living standards worst in 60 years
The number of people sleeping rough in England a 133% increase since 2010 over 4000 people
Tory Manifesto promised no rail fare hike for passengers but this January our rail fares climbed another 2.3%. Now up 27% overall
1 in 5 adults have had mental health problems because of their housing pressures
Britain's housing crisis is at its worst for 20 years
Schools Crisis in England
Prisons crisis
flat lining wages
Over 500,000 people using food banks

This is tory britain today, this is Reality

Didn't I answer this post already?

The left don't seem to be able to clarify their position.
The complain about cuts and then complain about the defect.
They complain about living standards but support mass immigration and the suppression of wages that it creates.
They complain about the NHS but have never once solved the crisis in all their years in office.
They complain about housing but the Wilson Government built some of the worst housing ever created and Labour had years in government under Blair and Brown to address it, they didn't. What they did do was open the flood gates for thousands of Eastern European immigrants to make the problem much worse.

Wake up.

 

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Nest Flag 20 Apr 17 3.46pm Send a Private Message to Nest Add Nest as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Didn't I answer this post already?

The left don't seem to be able to clarify their position.
The complain about cuts and then complain about the defect.
They complain about living standards but support mass immigration and the suppression of wages that it creates.
They complain about the NHS but have never once solved the crisis in all their years in office.
They complain about housing but the Wilson Government built some of the worst housing ever created and Labour had years in government under Blair and Brown to address it, they didn't. What they did do was open the flood gates for thousands of Eastern European immigrants to make the problem much worse.

Wake up.

So again no answers

 

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