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legaleagle Flag 03 Sep 14 9.11pm

Quote matt_himself at 03 Sep 2014 9.07pm

Quote legaleagle at 03 Sep 2014 9.03pm

One of the beauties of living in a liberal democracy is that you are perfectly entitled to an opinion, however much I might find it to be without merit. Though, in this instance,I might personally be more persuaded to accord it a degree of potency if it indicated some actual understanding of what a fatwa is. We are discussing important issues. By all means make a reasoned argument about whether you think the fatwa will be of any lasting value...but pleeeaaaseee....


Bollocks. You know what I imply is correct.


Thank you for making my point for me in so much more convincing style than I ever could have. Now, be a good boy and go and pick an irrational fight elsewhere in the playground

 

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 03 Sep 14 9.14pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Quote legaleagle at 03 Sep 2014 9.11pm

Quote matt_himself at 03 Sep 2014 9.07pm

Quote legaleagle at 03 Sep 2014 9.03pm

One of the beauties of living in a liberal democracy is that you are perfectly entitled to an opinion, however much I might find it to be without merit. Though, in this instance,I might personally be more persuaded to accord it a degree of potency if it indicated some actual understanding of what a fatwa is. We are discussing important issues. By all means make a reasoned argument about whether you think the fatwa will be of any lasting value...but pleeeaaaseee....


Bollocks. You know what I imply is correct.


Thank you for making my point for me in so much more convincing style than I ever could have. Now, be a good boy and go and pick an irrational fight elsewhere in the playground


Are you in a 'civil partnership' with Seth?

I give something to justify your liberal nonsense on and you retract to base patronising.

Well done for keeping liberal character. That's the only well done you'll get from me on this.

 


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Alexi_the_Eagle Flag Newton-le-Willows 03 Sep 14 9.15pm Send a Private Message to Alexi_the_Eagle Add Alexi_the_Eagle as a friend

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Quote eaglesforward at 03 Sep 2014 12.45pm

Mr E Powell was correct we have rivers of blood in England, you cannot have a faith of other people arrive in their droves to live in peace , soon or later they will put there faith on you. At the moment Christ has lost the war, thanks to the English governments of past.Take a look at Japan did they allow this to happen to please the Muslims.

I'm sure the BNP would pleased to hear your right-wing rhetoric.

Zzzzzzz bore off .
It's people like you as to why the country is in the mess it is with the b******isation of our once great island.
I couldn't care what I'm called or labeled anymore as I know what I am personally but immigration and asylum have become a sick joke.

I'm neither left nor right, both are as bad as one another. So next time, engage the brain before you engage the mouth.

Edited by Alexi_the_Eagle (03 Sep 2014 9.17pm)

 


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legaleagle Flag 03 Sep 14 9.17pm

Quote matt_himself at 03 Sep 2014 9.14pm

Quote legaleagle at 03 Sep 2014 9.11pm

Quote matt_himself at 03 Sep 2014 9.07pm

Quote legaleagle at 03 Sep 2014 9.03pm

One of the beauties of living in a liberal democracy is that you are perfectly entitled to an opinion, however much I might find it to be without merit. Though, in this instance,I might personally be more persuaded to accord it a degree of potency if it indicated some actual understanding of what a fatwa is. We are discussing important issues. By all means make a reasoned argument about whether you think the fatwa will be of any lasting value...but pleeeaaaseee....


Bollocks. You know what I imply is correct.


Thank you for making my point for me in so much more convincing style than I ever could have. Now, be a good boy and go and pick an irrational fight elsewhere in the playground


Are you in a 'civil partnership' with Seth?

I give something to justify your liberal nonsense on and you retract to base patronising.

Well done for keeping liberal character. That's the only well done you'll get from me on this.


Many thanks for enlightening me once again as to the gross error of my ways. Your rationality and depth of argument are a true inspiration.Nighty night

 

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 03 Sep 14 9.24pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Quote legaleagle at 03 Sep 2014 9.17pm

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Quote legaleagle at 03 Sep 2014 9.11pm

Quote matt_himself at 03 Sep 2014 9.07pm

Quote legaleagle at 03 Sep 2014 9.03pm

One of the beauties of living in a liberal democracy is that you are perfectly entitled to an opinion, however much I might find it to be without merit. Though, in this instance,I might personally be more persuaded to accord it a degree of potency if it indicated some actual understanding of what a fatwa is. We are discussing important issues. By all means make a reasoned argument about whether you think the fatwa will be of any lasting value...but pleeeaaaseee....


Bollocks. You know what I imply is correct.


Thank you for making my point for me in so much more convincing style than I ever could have. Now, be a good boy and go and pick an irrational fight elsewhere in the playground


Are you in a 'civil partnership' with Seth?

I give something to justify your liberal nonsense on and you retract to base patronising.

Well done for keeping liberal character. That's the only well done you'll get from me on this.


Many thanks for enlightening me once again as to the gross error of my ways. Your rationality and depth of argument are a true inspiration.Nighty night


Bollocks. You are trying to tell me how to think but offering nothing in the way of facts to back this up.

'Tis the Liberal way.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 04 Sep 14 10.12am

Quote legaleagle at 03 Sep 2014 9.03pm

One of the beauties of living in a liberal democracy is that you are perfectly entitled to an opinion, however much I might find it to be without merit. Though, in this instance,I might personally be more persuaded to accord it a degree of potency if it indicated some actual understanding of what a fatwa is. We are discussing important issues. By all means make a reasoned argument about whether you think the fatwa will be of any lasting value...but pleeeaaaseee....

Also its greatest draw back is that people assume that their opinion has the same value as knowledge.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 04 Sep 14 10.15am

Quote matt_himself at 03 Sep 2014 8.22pm

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Quote jamiemartin721 at 03 Sep 2014 12.33pm

Some examples of condemnation from Google searches

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British Muslim Leaders issue Fatwa against Britains joining Jihadist groups.

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British Muslim condemnation of the murder of James Foley

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An article on belief net about the whole 'muslims are silent' thing.

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Muslim condemnation of the murder of Lee Rigby

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Police protecting thousands of muslims gathered to condemn the murder of Lee Rigby

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Bristol Muslims condemn the murder of Lee Rigby

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UK wide sermon, first of its kind, in which Muslims across the UK condemn child grooming.

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Muslim Peace conference condemns terrorism.

All from the first page of google searches. Even the Daily Mail seems to report these stories. Wonder why they never make national news....

I think the 'fatwa' is a load of hot air. It doesn't say anywhere in that article that the Muslim 'leaders' are urging the communities to help authorities root out extremists.

I go back to what I have said previously. There is no widespread reaction in the Muslim community to extremism. Nothing posted above has changed me a view. A few pockets of people demonstrating and campaigning for change but not a widespread attempt to work with the British government to rid themselves of the cancer in their communities.

Alternatively you could use google....

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And you could use it more effectively.

One article is from 2004 and the other from 2007.

Hardly a groundswell of support for rooting out the evils in their community.

Just a few selected at random from a google search, its not supposed to be a comprehensive list, but to show that your original position was flawed by stating that this wasn't the case.

So your problem is that they're from different time periods, wouldn't that mean that its a consistant thing rather than a one off.


 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 04 Sep 14 10.22am

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Quote legaleagle at 03 Sep 2014 8.39pm

This is dated yesterday...

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Edited by legaleagle (03 Sep 2014 8.47pm)


Legaleagle - I declare a 'fatwa' against Brighton and Hove Albion FC.

PM me when, as a direct result of this 'fatwa', the evil of Brighton and Hove Albion is crushed.

FYI - both 'fatwas' will have the same effect, I.e., regarded as hot air by most people.
Edited by matt_himself (03 Sep 2014 8.52pm)

Most people, but they're fairly important to the right people. Of course protests don't have much effect either, because they get ignored as well (hence an Iraq war).

I'm not sure what more you actually want. Condemnation of terrorism, condemnation of recent beheadings, condemnation of paedophile gangs, vigils for Lee Rigby,
encouragement for the muslim community to engage with the security services, a fatwa against leaving the UK to join Jyhadist groups.

Everyones entitled to an opinion. What is concerning is people who retain it regardless of evidence to the contry.


 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 04 Sep 14 10.31am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Sep 2014 10.22am

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This is dated yesterday...

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Edited by legaleagle (03 Sep 2014 8.47pm)


Legaleagle - I declare a 'fatwa' against Brighton and Hove Albion FC.

PM me when, as a direct result of this 'fatwa', the evil of Brighton and Hove Albion is crushed.

FYI - both 'fatwas' will have the same effect, I.e., regarded as hot air by most people.
Edited by matt_himself (03 Sep 2014 8.52pm)

Most people, but they're fairly important to the right people. Of course protests don't have much effect either, because they get ignored as well (hence an Iraq war).

I'm not sure what more you actually want. Condemnation of terrorism, condemnation of recent beheadings, condemnation of paedophile gangs, vigils for Lee Rigby,
encouragement for the muslim community to engage with the security services, a fatwa against leaving the UK to join Jyhadist groups.

Everyones entitled to an opinion. What is concerning is people who retain it regardless of evidence to the contry.



To take the opposing view to a point where his targets' knickers are so twisted that they make their owners' eyes pop out.

Bit sad but if it keeps him entertained sobeit.

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 04 Sep 14 11.55am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

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This is dated yesterday...

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Edited by legaleagle (03 Sep 2014 8.47pm)


Legaleagle - I declare a 'fatwa' against Brighton and Hove Albion FC.

PM me when, as a direct result of this 'fatwa', the evil of Brighton and Hove Albion is crushed.

FYI - both 'fatwas' will have the same effect, I.e., regarded as hot air by most people.
Edited by matt_himself (03 Sep 2014 8.52pm)

Most people, but they're fairly important to the right people. Of course protests don't have much effect either, because they get ignored as well (hence an Iraq war).

I'm not sure what more you actually want. Condemnation of terrorism, condemnation of recent beheadings, condemnation of paedophile gangs, vigils for Lee Rigby,
encouragement for the muslim community to engage with the security services, a fatwa against leaving the UK to join Jyhadist groups.

Everyones entitled to an opinion. What is concerning is people who retain it regardless of evidence to the contry.



To take the opposing view to a point where his targets' knickers are so twisted that they make their owners' eyes pop out.

Bit sad but if it keeps him entertained sobeit.

You still haven't produced anything to back up your flaky, I know best because I do liberal rhetoric.

It's laughable.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 04 Sep 14 11.59am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Sep 2014 10.22am

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This is dated yesterday...

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Edited by legaleagle (03 Sep 2014 8.47pm)


Legaleagle - I declare a 'fatwa' against Brighton and Hove Albion FC.

PM me when, as a direct result of this 'fatwa', the evil of Brighton and Hove Albion is crushed.

FYI - both 'fatwas' will have the same effect, I.e., regarded as hot air by most people.
Edited by matt_himself (03 Sep 2014 8.52pm)

Most people, but they're fairly important to the right people. Of course protests don't have much effect either, because they get ignored as well (hence an Iraq war).

I'm not sure what more you actually want. Condemnation of terrorism, condemnation of recent beheadings, condemnation of paedophile gangs, vigils for Lee Rigby,
encouragement for the muslim community to engage with the security services, a fatwa against leaving the UK to join Jyhadist groups.

Everyones entitled to an opinion. What is concerning is people who retain it regardless of evidence to the contry.


I have addressed this. However, to elaborate, where is the concerted effort from the community to root out extremists and where are the multitude of prosecutions following such actions?

Where are numbers of holiday jihadists prevented from going to Syria, etc., by the community?

Where are numbers of funding groups shut down by the community?

You have offered a patchy flavour and in some cases, a very dated flavour. I am simply not convinced.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Seth Flag On a pale blue dot 04 Sep 14 12.44pm Send a Private Message to Seth Add Seth as a friend

Quote matt_himself at 03 Sep 2014 9.14pm

Are you in a 'civil partnership' with Seth?

No but you've been f*cked up the arse so hard on this thread I doubt you'll be able to sit down before christmas.

Do keep going though, it's tremendously entertaining

 


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