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Stirlingsays 23 Oct 22 10.26pm | |
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Sunak, Johnson, Starmer.....It doesn't really matter. They're one and the same: partly controlled by a global network of financiers, corporations, and technocrats; and all leading to the same glorious future of penury and servitude. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Oct 2022 10.26pm)
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 23 Oct 22 10.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I have Irish family, my father was from Belfast for god's sake, stop looking for victim points, you aren't even Irish. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Oct 2022 10.27pm) I won"t comment- move on!
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Oct 22 10.37pm | |
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Johnson's statement on why he has decided not to stand is typical of the man, and confirms why I believe him to be entirely unsuitable to be PM. He only thinks of himself and as he sees nothing in the next 2 years that benefits him, he won't stand. My guess is that he expects to be leading the Party, or what's left of it, again after it suffers a defeat in 2024. How much will be left? Who knows? Badenoch seems to be the rising star, (heaven knows why) whose endorsement of Sunak suggests battles and splits lie ahead. With an uninspiring opposition as the alternative I cannot recall ever feeling as gloomy about the political landscape as I do now. Just when we need a true leader to inspire and rally around. At least Sunak talks sense and is pragmatic, but the coming months will be very painful. Not so much for me personally. My needs are met, and I will be able to afford the increased taxation and inflated prices. I have already decided not to ask my tenants for a rent increase in the next round, and will only increase if any of them vacate and I need to replace.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 23 Oct 22 10.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Johnson's statement on why he has decided not to stand is typical of the man, and confirms why I believe him to be entirely unsuitable to be PM. He only thinks of himself and as he sees nothing in the next 2 years that benefits him, he won't stand. My guess is that he expects to be leading the Party, or what's left of it, again after it suffers a defeat in 2024. How much will be left? Who knows? Badenoch seems to be the rising star, (heaven knows why) whose endorsement of Sunak suggests battles and splits lie ahead. With an uninspiring opposition as the alternative I cannot recall ever feeling as gloomy about the political landscape as I do now. Just when we need a true leader to inspire and rally around. At least Sunak talks sense and is pragmatic, but the coming months will be very painful. Not so much for me personally. My needs are met, and I will be able to afford the increased taxation and inflated prices. I have already decided not to ask my tenants for a rent increase in the next round, and will only increase if any of them vacate and I need to replace. Bungle-the biggest liar ever in politics-saying believe me- i got 102 votes!
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Teddy Eagle 23 Oct 22 10.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I think we need to stop, before we start, describing what's coming as "Hunt's cuts". Whoever is Chancellor must do the same, unless they are going to behave irresponsibly again. This really isn't the time for Punch and Judy politics. We are certainly facing a deep recession and we need to all pull together to get through it. I know that's probably a forlorn hope and in a month or two Hunt will be seen as a devil, and not the hero he is now. Hunt's Cuts presents too many Spoonerism opportunities.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 23 Oct 22 10.44pm | |
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Nadhim zahawi , boris backer an hour ago- is now team Rishi rich! I hope Rishi sends him to the gallows, or the equivelent parliamentry job!
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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 23 Oct 22 10.51pm | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Nadhim zahawi , boris backer an hour ago- is now team Rishi rich! I hope Rishi sends him to the gallows, or the equivelent parliamentry job! I don't mind him ... he always conducts himself professionally in whatever role he has. Remember Boris made him Chancellor after Rishi resigned.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Oct 22 10.52pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Sunak, Johnson, Starmer.....It doesn't really matter. They're one and the same: partly controlled by a global network of financiers, corporations, and technocrats; and all leading to the same glorious future of penury and servitude. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Oct 2022 10.26pm) Then vote them out! They're not "controlled by a global network of financiers, corporations, and technocrats"! As politicians they have no option other than to be mindful of international matters, which involve the sort of people you seem to despise. That's not control. It's reality. It's describing this as a "network" which is so wrong. It implies some kind of shadowy organisation co-ordinating everything for their own benefit, rather than ours. That the WEF appears to you to provide that organisation, is just evidence that you have swallowed another beloved conspiracy theory of the right. People talk to each other. They co-ordinate when it's best to co-operate to solve problems. Most of the time though they compete.
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Stirlingsays 23 Oct 22 11.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Then vote them out! They're not "controlled by a global network of financiers, corporations, and technocrats"! As politicians they have no option other than to be mindful of international matters, which involve the sort of people you seem to despise. That's not control. It's reality. It's describing this as a "network" which is so wrong. It implies some kind of shadowy organisation co-ordinating everything for their own benefit, rather than ours. That the WEF appears to you to provide that organisation, is just evidence that you have swallowed another beloved conspiracy theory of the right. People talk to each other. They co-ordinate when it's best to co-operate to solve problems. Most of the time though they compete. I would say that your opinions on the global network is at odds with the reality of political and financial decision making that it's you who live in a fantasy rather than me....also the idea that this is a 'conspiracy of the right' just shows how out of touch you are....just as many on the left see the same thing. As for voting them out! What a joke! Revisit my first line, it doesn't really matter.....their policies on many topics are little different. For example, they all supported the same decisions that brought us to this financial situation. Also, the establishment conspire to deny other party's media or coverage so that they can limit their growth. As Farage said, there needs to be big hitters who leave and join a party for there to be a realistic new party. Also, parties have to sign up to ridiculous socially liberal rules before their can register as a party....this isn't the free society that I was raised in. So people can't just vote for who they like.....sure they can vote for the Communist party but socially conservative parties have to sign up to trans, equality and alphabet crap that most of their voters don't believe or agree with. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Oct 2022 12.09am)
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Stirlingsays 23 Oct 22 11.43pm | |
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I'd say this image serves as a basic snapshot for how socially liberal a society is....obviously in many situations I don't consider that a good thing. [Tweet Link]
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Stirlingsays 24 Oct 22 12.00am | |
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Not only does it look like Sunak has been installed as the PM of the country, he has been imposed on the party membership as well....it looks like they were deliberately not allowed a vote. Without a contest it's about as undemocratic as it could possibly be. I would imagine the Conservative membership are going to be pretty angry. They have been denied a vote on the leader of the their party & their Prime Minister....seemingly deliberately. It could lead to a mass cancellation of memberships from the party. He doesn't really have any mandate other than that of Tory MPs....well, a bit over half of them. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Oct 2022 4.15am)
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Stirlingsays 24 Oct 22 12.13am | |
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From decades ago....he nearly got it right as well. [Tweet Link]
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