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 Stirlingsays  17 May 24 1.41pm |
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Interesting post from Cummings regarding Covid and some rather intense criticism of the Covid inquiry and how it was deliberately restricted by MPs.
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 grumpymort  US/Thailand/UK 17 May 24 7.04pm |
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Originally posted by The groover
I posted that covid is a hemo illness and got shot down, BBS style. Some stating that covid is just flu. I've found confirmation that the majority of those who died, died of thrombosis of organs (blood clots) i.e. blood thickening. Some with multiple organ failure. People with Flu tend to die from Pneumonia. I advocated taking an aspirin every two days as a blood thinner (If you are not on other medication). I still stand by that as a prevention of the above. If you get seriously ill its too late to take blood thinners. Believe what you want.
The link you provided is suppose to provide what evidence? Did you even read the full thing? You need to read the studies they use as source material as well this is something many people do not do big mistake. Most of the time the source material itself is incorrect meaning this is useless due to using invalid data. I believe you have missed the point of why people would state it was like the flu because of the recovery rates and the people who are most likely to have problems are within the same group sets.
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| eaglesdare 17 May 24 7.16pm |
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I guess the "conspiracy theories" were right...........yet again!
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The groover  Danbury 17 May 24 10.42pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
The link you provided is suppose to provide what evidence? Did you even read the full thing? You need to read the studies they use as source material as well this is something many people do not do big mistake. Most of the time the source material itself is incorrect meaning this is useless due to using invalid data. I believe you have missed the point of why people would state it was like the flu because of the recovery rates and the people who are most likely to have problems are within the same group sets. As I said, believe what you like. All you have done here is said that the data is flawed without any evidence. This is what the blood thickening does to kids. I have a few in my family that have also now got type 1. There are two teachers in the family who confirm these figures as well. But you believe what you want. Its not just about fatalities as you seem to be suggesting. "Before the pandemic, the incidence rate of childhood type 1 diabetes was already increasing - by about 3% a year. The recent study found: there was a 14% rise in the rate during the first year of the pandemic, compared to before Covid. in the second year of Covid, the rate was up about 27% on pre-pandemic levels." That's kids getting type 1 diabetes due to covid. But hey, its just the flu.......
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 May 24 11.33pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
I guess the "conspiracy theories" were right...........yet again! No they aren’t! The right wing tabloid “The New York Post” is spreading them via misleading headlines. Again! Perhaps this part of the story was missed. It certainly wasn’t given prominence as it doesn’t match the desired narrative:- “It depends on your definition of gain-of-function research,” So what one person understands by a term isn’t always what another does.
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| grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 17 May 24 11.43pm |
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Originally posted by The groover
As I said, believe what you like. All you have done here is said that the data is flawed without any evidence. This is what the blood thickening does to kids. I have a few in my family that have also now got type 1. There are two teachers in the family who confirm these figures as well. But you believe what you want. Its not just about fatalities as you seem to be suggesting. "Before the pandemic, the incidence rate of childhood type 1 diabetes was already increasing - by about 3% a year. The recent study found: there was a 14% rise in the rate during the first year of the pandemic, compared to before Covid. in the second year of Covid, the rate was up about 27% on pre-pandemic levels." That's kids getting type 1 diabetes due to covid. But hey, its just the flu.......
You do not appear to understand how science works. Did you read the full paper and the sources? I know the answer no you didn't. I will give you some details when you read these types of papers the words are important if the author uses words like "may" this means they do not know so that side of things is useless. No "may" in science you do an experiment which shows outcomes not "may" that is someone guessing. Next correlation does not imply causation so again when they start throwing around the term "association" again guess no evidence. Please go away and learn what diabetes type 1 is and the mechanism behind it. Provide the source of the diabetes data otherwise you are just making numbers up. Thick blood lol wow Thanks for the advice but I will stick with the over 3 decades of conducting science as a researcher in multi different fields of human health and was a lecturer on the subject many other things as well which I had mentioned multi times throughout the years on here so I am not going to go through it again.
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Teddy Eagle  17 May 24 11.43pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No they aren’t! The right wing tabloid “The New York Post” is spreading them via misleading headlines. Again! Perhaps this part of the story was missed. It certainly wasn’t given prominence as it doesn’t match the desired narrative:- “It depends on your definition of gain-of-function research,” So what one person understands by a term isn’t always what another does. Why does it matter if Covid was a naturally occuring phenomenon?
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| eaglesdare 17 May 24 11.57pm |
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One by one, the "conspiracy theories" have been proven correct. What was supposed to have been “misinformation” is now the reality.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 May 24 1.15pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Why does it matter if Covid was a naturally occuring phenomenon? Not so far as I am aware in terms of its impact. In seeking to determine responsibility it might I suppose. The relentless pursuit of Dr Fauci, who instinctively seems to me to be a decent guy who always tried to do his best whilst surrounded by a mob of self serving politicians, doesn’t appear either soundly based or wise if you want the best to aspire to these types of positions. There’s a difference between holding to account and persecution and I think we are seeing the latter.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 May 24 1.16pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
One by one, the "conspiracy theories" have been proven correct. What was supposed to have been “misinformation” is now the reality. No they haven’t! That’s just another conspiracy theory!
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| Teddy Eagle 20 May 24 6.36pm |
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 May 24 7.48pm |
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I suppose that’s intended to be sarcastic. I haven’t read the report or heard the reasons why this was done so am unable to comment, but conspiracy theory it isn’t.
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