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kev64 Cambs 22 Oct 20 3.22pm
Originally posted by NEILLO I get where you're coming from and I posted something similar. But...Brentford's model is to develop then sell. They do that well, but would our fans accept the same strategy ? Also they are taking chances on players operating at a much lower level to the Premier League. Would Ollie Watkins have thrived at Palace if we had recruited him from Exeter ? I have my doubts... Edited by NEILLO (22 Oct 2020 1.07pm) The thing is you purchase, then loan them out to maybe Brentford who have a real knack of developing talent ... Sorloth in point, loaned and developed into what we could of had if Roy et al had that attitude instead of hang on in the league and never try anything different. Our academy is nigh on pointless, the only way into the first team is being the final option.
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Cambs 22 Oct 20 3.22pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

I get where you're coming from and I posted something similar.

But...Brentford's model is to develop then sell. They do that well, but would our fans accept the same strategy ?

Also they are taking chances on players operating at a much lower level to the Premier League. Would Ollie Watkins have thrived at Palace if we had recruited him from Exeter ? I have my doubts...

Edited by NEILLO (22 Oct 2020 1.07pm)

The thing is you purchase, then loan them out to maybe Brentford who have a real knack of developing talent ... Sorloth in point, loaned and developed into what we could of had if Roy et al had that attitude instead of hang on in the league and never try anything different.

Our academy is nigh on pointless, the only way into the first team is being the final option.

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 22 Oct 20 3.30pm
Originally posted by kev64 The thing is you purchase, then loan them out to maybe Brentford who have a real knack of developing talent ... Sorloth in point, loaned and developed into what we could of had if Roy et al had that attitude instead of hang on in the league and never try anything different. Our academy is nigh on pointless, the only way into the first team is being the final option. But then Brentford wouldn't get their financial benefits from selling players they have developed. I think the Sorloth issue has been debated to death so I'm steering clear of that one ! Old, Ungifted and White
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Shoreham-by-Sea 22 Oct 20 3.30pm

Originally posted by kev64

Our academy is nigh on pointless, the only way into the first team is being the final option.

But then Brentford wouldn't get their financial benefits from selling players they have developed.

I think the Sorloth issue has been debated to death so I'm steering clear of that one !

Old, Ungifted and White

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Canterbury Palace Whitstable 23 Oct 20 12.27am
I've got a contact who has informed me that in the January window we are planning to do nothing until deadline day when we will submit a derisory bid for a player who won't want to join us. That is subject to the player not joining West Ham first, of course. Could be an exciting window. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...
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I've got a contact who has informed me that in the January window we are planning to do nothing until deadline day when we will submit a derisory bid for a player who won't want to join us. That is subject to the player not joining West Ham first, of course.

Could be an exciting window.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

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coulsdoneagle London 23 Oct 20 3.19am
Originally posted by kev64 The thing is you purchase, then loan them out to maybe Brentford who have a real knack of developing talent ... Sorloth in point, loaned and developed into what we could of had if Roy et al had that attitude instead of hang on in the league and never try anything different. Our academy is nigh on pointless, the only way into the first team is being the final option. Our academy is far from pointless. AWB alone brought in the funds to run it for years. Now we have invested in it, we should hopefully see a rise in the number of graduates in the next decade. If we can regularly do that with our incredible catchment area that’s the secret to growing the club.
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London 23 Oct 20 3.19am

Originally posted by kev64

Our academy is nigh on pointless, the only way into the first team is being the final option.

Our academy is far from pointless. AWB alone brought in the funds to run it for years. Now we have invested in it, we should hopefully see a rise in the number of graduates in the next decade. If we can regularly do that with our incredible catchment area that’s the secret to growing the club.

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kev64 Cambs 23 Oct 20 5.42am
Originally posted by coulsdoneagle Our academy is far from pointless. AWB alone brought in the funds to run it for years. Now we have invested in it, we should hopefully see a rise in the number of graduates in the next decade. If we can regularly do that with our incredible catchment area that’s the secret to growing the club. As I stated , they only make the first team as a last resort, AWB as Ward was injured, Mitchell as PVA was injured. AWB paid off debt.
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Cambs 23 Oct 20 5.42am

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

As I stated , they only make the first team as a last resort, AWB as Ward was injured, Mitchell as PVA was injured. AWB paid off debt.

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Helmet46 Croydon 23 Oct 20 7.57am
Originally posted by kev64 As I stated , they only make the first team as a last resort, AWB as Ward was injured, Mitchell as PVA was injured. AWB paid off debt. Personally and sadly, I think you’re right. AWB and Mitchell would not have been drafted in had it not been for an injury crisis. What chance Banks, Matthew’s in the 23’s or even Akinwale or Omilabu in the 18’s ever getting a chance under the current regime, especially as they’re forward players. I also fear for Eze. I have the utmost respect for Roy and the Exec at Palace and their methods have yielded a good few years in the Premier League, but they appear to be operating under the mantra of ‘if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.’ That’s laudable, although my observation would be that the manager is in his 70’s and if we don’t start transitioning to a different strategy, it feels unlikely that we will find a manager to play the same way - at least as well. We also won’t have blooded these youngsters in and we could find ourselves in a rather precarious position, with no valuable and tested financial player assets to sell to enable us to purchase rapid experienced player options, should we need. And Freedman is not the answer.
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Croydon 23 Oct 20 7.57am

Originally posted by kev64

As I stated , they only make the first team as a last resort, AWB as Ward was injured, Mitchell as PVA was injured. AWB paid off debt.

Personally and sadly, I think you’re right. AWB and Mitchell would not have been drafted in had it not been for an injury crisis. What chance Banks, Matthew’s in the 23’s or even Akinwale or Omilabu in the 18’s ever getting a chance under the current regime, especially as they’re forward players. I also fear for Eze. I have the utmost respect for Roy and the Exec at Palace and their methods have yielded a good few years in the Premier League, but they appear to be operating under the mantra of ‘if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.’ That’s laudable, although my observation would be that the manager is in his 70’s and if we don’t start transitioning to a different strategy, it feels unlikely that we will find a manager to play the same way - at least as well. We also won’t have blooded these youngsters in and we could find ourselves in a rather precarious position, with no valuable and tested financial player assets to sell to enable us to purchase rapid experienced player options, should we need. And Freedman is not the answer.

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steeleye20 Croydon 23 Oct 20 9.58am
According to 'TalkSport' we are well down the list of delusional fan bases. Only 13th. What the others must be like we can only wonder but Manure top the list.
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Croydon 23 Oct 20 9.58am

According to 'TalkSport' we are well down the list of delusional fan bases.

Only 13th.

What the others must be like we can only wonder but Manure top the list.

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Badger11 Beckenham 23 Oct 20 11.47am
Originally posted by steeleye20 According to 'TalkSport' we are well down the list of delusional fan bases. Only 13th. What the others must be like we can only wonder but Manure top the list. I can't find the article so I am trusting your comments I am surprised that Man United are top. If you support one of the biggest and richest clubs in the world it is not delusional to expect to win trophies and have a certain arrogance about your team. Delusional are fans like Newcastle who haven't won anything in 50 years or West Ham with their "academy" of football. I despise Man United and their glory hunting fans but it is reasonable for the top 6 fans to expect success. Outside of that the rest of us hope for success but don't expect it those that do are the delusional ones. One more point
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Beckenham 23 Oct 20 11.47am

Originally posted by steeleye20

According to 'TalkSport' we are well down the list of delusional fan bases.

Only 13th.

What the others must be like we can only wonder but Manure top the list.

I can't find the article so I am trusting your comments I am surprised that Man United are top. If you support one of the biggest and richest clubs in the world it is not delusional to expect to win trophies and have a certain arrogance about your team.

Delusional are fans like Newcastle who haven't won anything in 50 years or West Ham with their "academy" of football.

I despise Man United and their glory hunting fans but it is reasonable for the top 6 fans to expect success. Outside of that the rest of us hope for success but don't expect it those that do are the delusional ones.

One more point

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Oct 20 1.39pm
Originally posted by Canterbury Palace I've got a contact who has informed me that in the January window we are planning to do nothing until deadline day when we will submit a derisory bid for a player who won't want to join us. That is subject to the player not joining West Ham first, of course. Could be an exciting window. How dare you pretend to be ITK. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Oct 20 1.39pm

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

Could be an exciting window.

How dare you pretend to be ITK.

Red and Blue Army!

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steeleye20 Croydon 23 Oct 20 1.45pm
Pele, 80 today, insists he is not signing for Crystal Palace. He wants championship football next season.
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Croydon 23 Oct 20 1.45pm

Pele, 80 today, insists he is not signing for Crystal Palace.

He wants championship football next season.

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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 23 Oct 20 1.55pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Pele, 80 today, insists he is not signing for Crystal Palace. He wants championship football next season. He'd be on a winner if he signed for us. Wouldn't even have to venture into the opposition's half either. Denial is not just a river in Egypt
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Originally posted by steeleye20

Pele, 80 today, insists he is not signing for Crystal Palace.

He wants championship football next season.

He'd be on a winner if he signed for us. Wouldn't even have to venture into the opposition's half either.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Oct 20 1.56pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Pele, 80 today, insists he is not signing for Crystal Palace. He wants championship football next season. He's our next, young, dynamic manager. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Oct 20 1.56pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Pele, 80 today, insists he is not signing for Crystal Palace.

He wants championship football next season.

He's our next, young, dynamic manager.

Red and Blue Army!

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