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OldFella London 06 Oct 16 10.47pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Mea culpa I missed this. 1. Weren't labour in until 79? 2. Under austerity. Osborne left us more in debt than all labour governments combined. What is it now, something like £595000000000 (£595 billion)? 3. How can you be certain we'd go cap in hand to the imf. My understanding is that interest rates are low because of the s***storm of the financial crash. 4. Austerity rather than investment for growth was a big mistake in my book. Edited by nickgusset (06 Oct 2016 4.53pm) Yes they were - but his 1976 reference was when Denis Healey had to go to the IMF.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Oct 16 11.43pm | |
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Originally posted by OldFella
Yes they were - but his 1976 reference was when Denis Healey had to go to the IMF. Fair enough. What about the other points?
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matt_himself Matataland 07 Oct 16 9.31am | |
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Diane Abbott is now Shadow Home Secretary: How can this opposition be taken seriously?
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Hoof Hearted 07 Oct 16 11.09am | |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Diane Abbott is now Shadow Home Secretary: How can this opposition be taken seriously? You beat me to it matt.... Me and the Mrs both looked at each other and had the same bewildered look on our faces as we heard that little gem on R4 Today Programme earlier. FFS... Corbyn is just taking the p1ss I think?
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Hoof Hearted 07 Oct 16 11.14am | |
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They are SHADOW cabinet positions and Labour will never be voted into power again with the 3 stooges running the party. My prediction is that they won't even be the official opposition any more after the 2020 general election. Edited by Hoof Hearted (07 Oct 2016 11.15am)
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We are goin up! Coulsdon 07 Oct 16 11.30am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Mea culpa I missed this. 1. Weren't labour in until 79? 2. Under austerity. Osborne left us more in debt than all labour governments combined. What is it now, something like £595000000000 (£595 billion)? 3. How can you be certain we'd go cap in hand to the imf. My understanding is that interest rates are low because of the s***storm of the financial crash. 4. Austerity rather than investment for growth was a big mistake in my book. Edited by nickgusset (06 Oct 2016 4.53pm)
2. If you had any concept of mathematics you would know that that figure is incredibly misleading and in nominal, not real, terms. Besides, Labour have asked for MORE DEBT NOT LESS. We lost our AAA rating after the Brexit vote, something Osborne campaigned against. 3. The interest rates are low for us because we don't have a tanked economy. Ask Greece, Spain, Portugal and Italy about their borrowing costs because they haven't looked after their debt levels. 4. Yes, in your book. But not in anyone with an ounce of financial sanity's book.
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Part Time James 07 Oct 16 11.46am | |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Diane Abbott is now Shadow Home Secretary: How can this opposition be taken seriously? My Facebook gets filled with mildly amusing memes every time the Conservatives, UKIP, Nigel Farage, Donald Trump etc does something comical. No one has said a peep about this hilarious piece of news. I might have to put some into circulation.
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Stuk Top half 07 Oct 16 12.00pm | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
They are SHADOW cabinet positions and Labour will never be voted into power again with the 3 stooges running the party. My prediction is that they won't even be the official opposition any more after the 2020 general election. Edited by Hoof Hearted (07 Oct 2016 11.15am) He is a moron don't forget. He's also bragging about women being in key positions when they have never had a female leader and while the government has one currently.
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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 07 Oct 16 12.21pm | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
He is a moron don't forget. He's also bragging about women being in key positions when they have never had a female leader and while the government has one currently. I actually suspect he is (not unreasonably) not bragging but making sure people are aware so he can't be criticised for it, as he was in the last reshuffle. Abbott is a poor but not surprising choice. She has supported him more ardently than anyone else.
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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 07 Oct 16 12.23pm | |
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Originally posted by We are goin up!
4. Yes, in your book. But not in anyone with an ounce of financial sanity's book. Most of the rest I have some sympathy with. The above is absolutely factually incorrect. A huge number of economists - globally respected - called for additional investment and a reduction to austerity. To suggest that supporting investment over austerity is a choice made only by anyone without an ounce of financial sanity is completely untrue.
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Hoof Hearted 07 Oct 16 12.31pm | |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
Most of the rest I have some sympathy with. The above is absolutely factually incorrect. A huge number of economists - globally respected - called for additional investment and a reduction to austerity. To suggest that supporting investment over austerity is a choice made only by anyone without an ounce of financial sanity is completely untrue. .... they got it completely wrong about the £/Euro debate and are already looking foolish over their Brexit forecasts of economic armageddon. Hugely respected? I think not... overblown number crunchers is more of an accurate description of them and their Science.
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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 07 Oct 16 12.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
.... they got it completely wrong about the £/Euro debate and are already looking foolish over their Brexit forecasts of economic armageddon. Hugely respected? I think not... overblown number crunchers is more of an accurate description of them and their Science. If you say so
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