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shaun57 chislehurst 25 Jun 16 12.22pm
and 67% of the voters did not want Cameron as PM.
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chislehurst 25 Jun 16 12.22pm

and 67% of the voters did not want Cameron as PM.

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 25 Jun 16 12.26pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 So Willo - as a proud Tory how do you feel in helping bringing abhout the downfall of your own leader? Or should I call you Brutus? That was his choice I am afraid and if he had won he would be crowing from the rooftops as ALL remain voters would be now. Surely both Cameron and the remain voters are sore losers after a democratic vote. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 25 Jun 16 12.26pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

So Willo - as a proud Tory how do you feel in helping bringing abhout the downfall of your own leader?

Or should I call you Brutus?

That was his choice I am afraid and if he had won he would be crowing from the rooftops as ALL remain voters would be now. Surely both Cameron and the remain voters are sore losers after a democratic vote.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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blackpalacefan 25 Jun 16 12.27pm
The vote was very close so its a split nation. Now that we're going out we'll have to see how it goes as the democratic process has played out. Its very uncertain times so i hope that it works out for all. Namely that we get controls on immigration but the economy isnt hit terribly in the long run. im unsure that either of those will end of reflecting what the public want.
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The vote was very close so its a split nation. Now that we're going out we'll have to see how it goes as the democratic process has played out. Its very uncertain times so i hope that it works out for all. Namely that we get controls on immigration but the economy isnt hit terribly in the long run. im unsure that either of those will end of reflecting what the public want.

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 25 Jun 16 12.28pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 It's a strange democracy where 27 million eligible voters didn't vote for Brexit by either not turning up or voting for 'Remain' but 17 million did. Also, it could have literally been won by 1 vote out of 34 million cast which is plainly insane. Referendums are flawed as now 48% of Brits are on the losing side. But, of course, I would be saying this Edited by Kermit8 (25 Jun 2016 12.07pm) Yes you are, so I am afraid that you have to live with it ..... Deal all done and dusted...We are coming out of the EU and about time too. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 25 Jun 16 12.28pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

It's a strange democracy where 27 million eligible voters didn't vote for Brexit by either not turning up or voting for 'Remain' but 17 million did.

Also, it could have literally been won by 1 vote out of 34 million cast which is plainly insane.

Referendums are flawed as now 48% of Brits are on the losing side.

But, of course, I would be saying this

Edited by Kermit8 (25 Jun 2016 12.07pm)

Yes you are, so I am afraid that you have to live with it ..... Deal all done and dusted...We are coming out of the EU and about time too.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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Kermit8 Hevon 25 Jun 16 12.37pm
Originally posted by matt_himself Michael, the In voters have been bad losers. Incredibly condescending and bitter. Your (the remain group) message wasn't convincing and you don't understand people's concerns. I am not quite sure how though making those poorer people who voted Brexit poorer via the agreed economic tough times ahead is addressing their concerns by action as well as understanding them. It's all very well having affected empathy but what are your side going to do about it? You can't Just sit back do nothing yet thank those millions for their 'X's. The UK pop. is still projected to be over 70mill by 2030 EU or no EU. Some very important issues at home that need sorting like housing had very little to do with Brussels looking at the bigger picture. Still, it is good that the disenfranchised and the ignored feel like they have won something and been listened to for a change even if for a fleeting moment and built on sand. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 25 Jun 16 12.37pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Michael, the In voters have been bad losers. Incredibly condescending and bitter.

Your (the remain group) message wasn't convincing and you don't understand people's concerns.

I am not quite sure how though making those poorer people who voted Brexit poorer via the agreed economic tough times ahead is addressing their concerns by action as well as understanding them.

It's all very well having affected empathy but what are your side going to do about it? You can't Just sit back do nothing yet thank those millions for their 'X's.

The UK pop. is still projected to be over 70mill by 2030 EU or no EU. Some very important issues at home that need sorting like housing had very little to do with Brussels looking at the bigger picture.

Still, it is good that the disenfranchised and the ignored feel like they have won something and been listened to for a change even if for a fleeting moment and built on sand.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Mapletree Croydon 25 Jun 16 12.37pm
Originally posted by matt_himself Michael, the In voters have been bad losers. Incredibly condescending and bitter. Your (the remain group) message wasn't convincing and you don't understand people's concerns. The latter is true. Not sure about the former. The concept of 'bad losers' seems to imply this was a competition. I have been struck throughout by how lightly such a momentous decision has been taken. It wasn't a competition, it wasn't a good laugh, it wasn't the right forum for a protest vote. It will set the scene for more than one future generation. It will deeply impact their lives in a more significant way than almost anything else. Sore losers isn't how I view this, deeply worried is closer to the mark.
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Croydon 25 Jun 16 12.37pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Michael, the In voters have been bad losers. Incredibly condescending and bitter.

Your (the remain group) message wasn't convincing and you don't understand people's concerns.

The latter is true. Not sure about the former. The concept of 'bad losers' seems to imply this was a competition. I have been struck throughout by how lightly such a momentous decision has been taken. It wasn't a competition, it wasn't a good laugh, it wasn't the right forum for a protest vote. It will set the scene for more than one future generation. It will deeply impact their lives in a more significant way than almost anything else. Sore losers isn't how I view this, deeply worried is closer to the mark.

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Hoof Hearted 25 Jun 16 12.42pm
Originally posted by Mapletree This is my personal message to Hoof and people like you. You have fcked me. My pension will never recover Your have fcked my children, the economy will never recover. Dublin will be happy tonight and watch what Edinburgh does. You killed the only goose we had laying decent sized eggs. You did this for your own gain knowing it would adversely affect a huge proportion of people, especially Londoners like the HOLers. And then you boasted about your gains. You used the disenfranchised to get your own way, even though it won't benefit them and will in the end adversely affect them. The infirm will be in particular jeopardy, funding for the NHS will fall quickly. It's a good job you made money on the exit so you can buy your private health care. Everything will grind to a halt for years to come, you can forget big infrastructure investments. This was not a risk it was fair for you to take on behalf of others For all of these reasons I despise you. Maybe, when you look back on what you did, you will come to despise yourself too. Edited by Mapletree (24 Jun 2016 5.10pm) Edited by Mapletree (24 Jun 2016 5.21pm) You need to get out more mate. Over 17 Million people agreed with me. Stop wetting your pants indoors with your tinhat on and get out into the big wide world and make your fortune using your wits and courage like I did. Just man up.
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Hoof Hearted 25 Jun 16 12.42pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

This is my personal message to Hoof and people like you.

You have f*cked me. My pension will never recover

Your have f*cked my children, the economy will never recover. Dublin will be happy tonight and watch what Edinburgh does. You killed the only goose we had laying decent sized eggs.

You did this for your own gain knowing it would adversely affect a huge proportion of people, especially Londoners like the HOLers. And then you boasted about your gains.

You used the disenfranchised to get your own way, even though it won't benefit them and will in the end adversely affect them.

The infirm will be in particular jeopardy, funding for the NHS will fall quickly. It's a good job you made money on the exit so you can buy your private health care.

Everything will grind to a halt for years to come, you can forget big infrastructure investments.

This was not a risk it was fair for you to take on behalf of others

For all of these reasons I despise you.

Maybe, when you look back on what you did, you will come to despise yourself too.

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Edited by Mapletree (24 Jun 2016 5.21pm)

You need to get out more mate.

Over 17 Million people agreed with me.

Stop wetting your pants indoors with your tinhat on and get out into the big wide world and make your fortune using your wits and courage like I did.

Just man up.

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Hoof Hearted 25 Jun 16 12.57pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Hoof has previous for expressing schaudenfraude at a couple who didn't use his financial advice and laughed at the fact the lost money by going to someone else. Don't tell lies Gusset. My recollection wasn't that I laughed, I said I had no sympathy for their losses. I'm guessing you haven't got a copy of my post? I have a better, more accurate memory than you. The story relates to a client who used me for financial advice - hours and hours of work, then chose to invest with Equitable Life (non commission paying) and wouldn't give me a fee. When Equitable Life went tits up, he asked me what to do as he needed help. I told him I was sorry but had wasted enough time trying to help him beforehand and he shafted me. DON'T MAKE UP LIES ABOUT PEOPLE FOR CHEAP POINT SCORING.
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Hoof Hearted 25 Jun 16 12.57pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Hoof has previous for expressing schaudenfraude at a couple who didn't use his financial advice and laughed at the fact the lost money by going to someone else.

Don't tell lies Gusset.

My recollection wasn't that I laughed, I said I had no sympathy for their losses.

I'm guessing you haven't got a copy of my post?

I have a better, more accurate memory than you.

The story relates to a client who used me for financial advice - hours and hours of work, then chose to invest with Equitable Life (non commission paying) and wouldn't give me a fee.

When Equitable Life went tits up, he asked me what to do as he needed help. I told him I was sorry but had wasted enough time trying to help him beforehand and he shafted me.

DON'T MAKE UP LIES ABOUT PEOPLE FOR CHEAP POINT SCORING.

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matt_himself Matataland 25 Jun 16 12.59pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 I am not quite sure how though making those poorer people who voted Brexit poorer via the agreed economic tough times ahead is addressing their concerns by action as well as understanding them. It's all very well having affected empathy but what are your side going to do about it? You can't Just sit back do nothing yet thank those millions for their 'X's. The UK pop. is still projected to be over 70mill by 2030 EU or no EU. Some very important issues at home that need sorting like housing had very little to do with Brussels looking at the bigger picture. Still, it is good that the disenfranchised and the ignored feel like they have won something and been listened to for a change even if for a fleeting moment and built on sand. Michael, I have said it before and I say it again. A deal will be carved up by the powers that be over the course of the next 12 months and we will be in some shape or form in the EU or EEA. They are not going to allow contagion to happen. With regards to your point, it's slightly disingenuous. I didn't see anything that resembled a vision from the Remain camp on how Britain would be better. I didn't see a vision on how the 'housing crisis' would be resolved or take home pay increased. I view what I did as a protest vote against the establishment. It is against failed politicians like Cameron and Corbyn & a failed elitist project which is the EU. I vote against the EU because it is serving no ones best interests at the moment. It's not functioning well, it's a hotch potch of vested interests. What are 'my side' doing with 'the empathy'? What a ridiculous question. The referendum is over. It is now up to the powers that be to determine the future vision for this country and the grassroots to either approve or disapprove it. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 25 Jun 16 12.59pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

I am not quite sure how though making those poorer people who voted Brexit poorer via the agreed economic tough times ahead is addressing their concerns by action as well as understanding them.

It's all very well having affected empathy but what are your side going to do about it? You can't Just sit back do nothing yet thank those millions for their 'X's.

Still, it is good that the disenfranchised and the ignored feel like they have won something and been listened to for a change even if for a fleeting moment and built on sand.

Michael, I have said it before and I say it again. A deal will be carved up by the powers that be over the course of the next 12 months and we will be in some shape or form in the EU or EEA. They are not going to allow contagion to happen.

With regards to your point, it's slightly disingenuous. I didn't see anything that resembled a vision from the Remain camp on how Britain would be better. I didn't see a vision on how the 'housing crisis' would be resolved or take home pay increased.

I view what I did as a protest vote against the establishment. It is against failed politicians like Cameron and Corbyn & a failed elitist project which is the EU. I vote against the EU because it is serving no ones best interests at the moment. It's not functioning well, it's a hotch potch of vested interests.

What are 'my side' doing with 'the empathy'? What a ridiculous question. The referendum is over. It is now up to the powers that be to determine the future vision for this country and the grassroots to either approve or disapprove it.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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matt_himself Matataland 25 Jun 16 1.04pm
Originally posted by Mapletree The latter is true. Not sure about the former. The concept of 'bad losers' seems to imply this was a competition. I have been struck throughout by how lightly such a momentous decision has been taken. It wasn't a competition, it wasn't a good laugh, it wasn't the right forum for a protest vote. It will set the scene for more than one future generation. It will deeply impact their lives in a more significant way than almost anything else. Sore losers isn't how I view this, deleply worried is closer to the mark. Maple - I have seen some ridiculous comments from Remain voters following the result. One on FB today said that the 'educated' voted Remain, the 'uneducated' voted out and that in future we should only give votes on important matters to 'educated' people. Imagine if a Kipper had said that? It is almost Rhosdesian to the core. I think everyone needs to go and have a few pints, share a bottle of Sancerre or enjoy a few single malts (whatever your poison), reflect and then get on with life on Monday. Nothing is going to change. A compromise deal with the EU will happen. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 25 Jun 16 1.04pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Maple - I have seen some ridiculous comments from Remain voters following the result. One on FB today said that the 'educated' voted Remain, the 'uneducated' voted out and that in future we should only give votes on important matters to 'educated' people.

Imagine if a Kipper had said that? It is almost Rhosdesian to the core.

I think everyone needs to go and have a few pints, share a bottle of Sancerre or enjoy a few single malts (whatever your poison), reflect and then get on with life on Monday.

Nothing is going to change. A compromise deal with the EU will happen.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 25 Jun 16 1.04pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted Don't tell lies Gusset. My recollection wasn't that I laughed, I said I had no sympathy for their losses. I'm guessing you haven't got a copy of my post? I have a better, more accurate memory than you. The story relates to a client who used me for financial advice - hours and hours of work, then chose to invest with Equitable Life (non commission paying) and wouldn't give me a fee. When Equitable Life went tits up, he asked me what to do as he needed help. I told him I was sorry but had wasted enough time trying to help him beforehand and he shafted me. DON'T MAKE UP LIES ABOUT PEOPLE FOR CHEAP POINT SCORING. No need to shout. If you don't like lies, how do you feel about the 350 million promised for the NHS on the side of buses. If you don't like lies, what do you make of the moment on newsnight last night when the UKIP mep admitted there would be free movement of Labour across the eu which was not what was said in the campaign? [Link]
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Shizzlehurst 25 Jun 16 1.04pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Don't tell lies Gusset.

My recollection wasn't that I laughed, I said I had no sympathy for their losses.

I'm guessing you haven't got a copy of my post?

I have a better, more accurate memory than you.

The story relates to a client who used me for financial advice - hours and hours of work, then chose to invest with Equitable Life (non commission paying) and wouldn't give me a fee.

When Equitable Life went tits up, he asked me what to do as he needed help. I told him I was sorry but had wasted enough time trying to help him beforehand and he shafted me.

DON'T MAKE UP LIES ABOUT PEOPLE FOR CHEAP POINT SCORING.

No need to shout.
If you don't like lies, how do you feel about the 350 million promised for the NHS on the side of buses.
If you don't like lies, what do you make of the moment on newsnight last night when the UKIP mep admitted there would be free movement of Labour across the eu which was not what was said in the campaign? [Link]

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Hoof Hearted 25 Jun 16 1.05pm
Originally posted by nickgusset That's fair enough but he said he found it funny that a young couple had lost money. As I have already explained, that is not the situation at all. No one delights in seeing anyone lose money. The poster you responded to was extremely accurate in his appraisal of what I did.. You are s*** stirring.... as you term it quite accurately "Playing The Man". You are such a hypocrite and a liar Gusset. Matt's descriptions of you are so accurate, God help those children you have been teaching... I dread to think what they have learned from you.
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Hoof Hearted 25 Jun 16 1.05pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

That's fair enough but he said he found it funny that a young couple had lost money.

As I have already explained, that is not the situation at all.

No one delights in seeing anyone lose money.

The poster you responded to was extremely accurate in his appraisal of what I did..

You are s*** stirring.... as you term it quite accurately "Playing The Man".

You are such a hypocrite and a liar Gusset.

Matt's descriptions of you are so accurate, God help those children you have been teaching... I dread to think what they have learned from you.