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W12 02 Jun 22 7.47pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Always had a bit of a soft spot for Nazi's meself. Quite sticklers for punctuality and very slick dressers.

lolz!

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 02 Jun 22 9.06pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

That Helga was a sort.

[Link]

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 02 Jun 22 9.30pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

A popular German talk show host was recently fired for praising Hitler's family policies. The Nazis encouraged women to stay at home, look after their husbands, and produce and rear children.

All true.

No unemployment, zero crime, autobahn network etc. and especially no brexit, you can see where he is coming from.

There is the small matter of exterminating millions of people which does somewhat tarnish the image though.

And they didn't play cricket.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 02 Jun 22 9.39pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

A popular German talk show host was recently fired for praising Hitler's family policies. The Nazis encouraged women to stay at home, look after their husbands, and produce and rear children.

All true.

No unemployment, zero crime, autobahn network etc. and especially no brexit, you can see where he is coming from.

There is the small matter of exterminating millions of people which does somewhat tarnish the image though.

And they didn't play cricket.

Troglodytes.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 03 Jun 22 2.42am

"When Putin says that there is no Ukrainian nation and no Ukrainian state, he means that he intends to destroy the Ukrainian nation and the Ukrainian state."

I notice that today Ireland declared the invasion genocide. For those interested here is a thorough legal analysis of whether the Russian Federation bears responsibility for breaches of the Genocide Convention in its invasion of Ukraine : [Link]


The executive summary at the beginning is well worth a read.

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Jun 22 10.56am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

A popular German talk show host was recently fired for praising Hitler's family policies. The Nazis encouraged women to stay at home, look after their husbands, and produce and rear children.

All true.

No unemployment, zero crime, autobahn network etc. and especially no brexit, you can see where he is coming from.

There is the small matter of exterminating millions of people which does somewhat tarnish the image though.

And they didn't play cricket.

Trains ran on time.

 


Red and Blue Army!

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The groover Flag Danbury 03 Jun 22 11.24am Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

In terms of atrocities. At first the Ukrainians were treating Russian Dead soldiers with respect. Placing their names on a website and storing their bodies for return to Russia. Who did not want them because that would mean they had to acknowledge that they had lost a lot of troops.

Then news came out of what had been happening re. Civilians. Including video footage and the response from some ukrainians changed. Understandably imo.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 03 Jun 22 12.15pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Trains ran on time.

Wasn't that 'Il Duce' - Mussolini.

Obviously didn't have the RMT.

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Jun 22 12.28pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Wasn't that 'Il Duce' - Mussolini.

Obviously didn't have the RMT.

It's a major achievement to get anything running in Italy.

 


Red and Blue Army!

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BlueJay Flag UK 03 Jun 22 1.22pm

Around 200,000 Ukranian children now deported to Russia based on numerous assessments and estimates. Until dark wartime tactic from the past.


From the UN definition of genocide:

- the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and

- Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

 

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W12 03 Jun 22 1.51pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

I'm not asked anything complicated. I'm saying that if you're very suddenly out of nowhere the most concerned person on the planet regarding nazis, and proclaim Ukraine to be controlled by Nazis (who you clearly have little trouble with Russia snuffing out - knowing that Russian criteria for 'nazi' is essentially anyone in Ukraine who fights back) isn't it something of a shame that none of our own appear to bother you. Taking the tack of talking down Natural Action, whose founders professed their love for Adolf Hilter, declared Anders Breivik a hero, and following the death of Jo Cox openly encouraged the murder our more of our MPs.. the same National Action involved in multiple racist attacks resulting in life changing injuries of their victims.. I would've thought you might have at some point offered criticism towards them or those with neo nazi inclined views..

I'm not suggesting you personally have any meaningful sympathies for these people or groups at all, I'm saying that your sudden nazi crusade is you buying into a pushed bulls*** Russian justification for their widespread invasion. And that your lack of concern for those on the receving end of this massive 'special operation' is due to that 'all in' misguided view. You attribute very little if any blame towards Russia, and accuse us of shaming our grandparents for arming a besieged people. perhaps allow your grandfathers and great grandfathers a little more dignity than simply using them to claim they'd have bought the exact same arguments you have.

Edited by BlueJay (02 Jun 2022 6.28pm)

None of those things are true but carry on sunshine

 

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W12 03 Jun 22 1.56pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

Around 200,000 Ukranian children now deported to Russia based on numerous assessments and estimates. Until dark wartime tactic from the past.


From the UN definition of genocide:

- the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and

- Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

Where is this information because when I search for it I just get various "Zekenski says....." articles.

What do you think the motivation would be for doing this?

Or is it just another load of old bollocks?

Edited by W12 (03 Jun 2022 1.58pm)

 

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