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m/k mick milton keynes 30 May 17 7.28pm | |
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Nick gussett, I may well have done what you suggest, but my reluctant conclusion is that at this moment in time, a weak government negotiating with the EU would cause much more austerity etc etc, this vote is about Brexit unfortunately, everything else is a side show, i cannot hand on heart vote for this present Labour party, and that hurts
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Stirlingsays 30 May 17 7.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
What we have had, since the 1980's specifically, is pretty much a broken society in many parts of the UK where once jobs and strong community were plentiful. Past and present governments do have to take their fair share of the blame in helping to create social vacuums in places where the chav culture, ignorance, and asbos evolved and became the norm. There have always been terrible parents of course but it would help the country as a whole if we introduced social policies toward a future where they are decreasing in number decade by decade. Before the eighties society wasn't broken?....look who is romanticizing now.
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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 30 May 17 7.31pm | |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
There are multiple examples on here that would discredit this assertion. I'm not the first to have pointed it out. We are all waiting for your next reply in relation to name calling ?????
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Stirlingsays 30 May 17 7.31pm | |
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Originally posted by m/k mick
Nick gussett, I may well have done what you suggest, but my reluctant conclusion is that at this moment in time, a weak government negotiating with the EU would cause much more austerity etc etc, this vote is about Brexit unfortunately, everything else is a side show, i cannot hand on heart vote for this present Labour party, and that hurts Ultimately you did the right thing. This is a Brexit election......Labour are supplicants to the EU...I mean listen to defeatist Kermy there....They have no one there with the leadership and talent of Davies for this job.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 May 17 7.34pm | |
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Originally posted by m/k mick
Nick gussett, I may well have done what you suggest, but my reluctant conclusion is that at this moment in time, a weak government negotiating with the EU would cause much more austerity etc etc, this vote is about Brexit unfortunately, everything else is a side show, i cannot hand on heart vote for this present Labour party, and that hurts Fair enough. I respect that. But I'd rather someone negotiating that is calm under pressure. May has shown herself to be a chocolate teapot too often IMHO. There's only 1 t in Gusset.
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Kermit8 Hevon 30 May 17 7.36pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Before the eighties society wasn't broken?....look who is romanticizing now. Well, we didn't have 3.25mill unemployed as we did in 1983, did we? Youngsters, especially in the industrial heartlands, in the 60's and 70's had apprenticeships, jobs and/or further education to look forward to. A lot of those towns and villages were laid to waste economically once Thatcher got in. Fast forward a few years from 1979 and then we have the Chav culture introducing itself to the U.K. Delightful.
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elgrande bedford 30 May 17 7.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
What we have had, since the 1980's specifically, is pretty much a broken society in many parts of the UK where once jobs and strong community were plentiful. Past and present governments do have to take their fair share of the blame in helping to create social vacuums in places where the chav culture, ignorance, and asbos evolved and became the norm. There have always been terrible parents of course but it would help the country as a whole if we introduced social policies toward a future where they are decreasing in number decade by decade. I do take your point kerms,but good parenting and social skills is something that should be handed down through the generations of the family. I don't think it should have any thing to do with how well off you are. And to ensure honest some of the people who I know are a bit "posh" are complete knobs.
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Kermit8 Hevon 30 May 17 7.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Ultimately you did the right thing. This is a Brexit election......Labour are supplicants to the EU...I mean listen to defeatist Kermy there....They have no one there with the leadership and talent of Davies for this job. You carry on with your Uri Gelleresque 'airhead thinking powers' to defeat on the ground reality. Maybe the EU could be put into a trance to give us what we want.
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legaleagle 30 May 17 7.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Before the eighties society wasn't broken?....look who is romanticizing now. The breakdown, at the very least, gained considerable momentum following Maggie's pronouncement that "there is no such thing as society" and her government's promulgation of policies and philosophies in accord with that sentiment...
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Stirlingsays 30 May 17 7.44pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
You carry on with your Uri Gelleresque 'airhead thinking powers' to defeat on the ground reality. Maybe the EU could be put into a trance to give us what we want. Yeah, the bloke to slagged off the vote for independence from the EU on the grounds of it being economically risky but who himself supported Scottish independence in their referendum....Despite their own obvious economic risks. Kermit you are a hypocrite.
Edited by Stirlingsays (30 May 2017 7.45pm)
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legaleagle 30 May 17 7.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Ultimately you did the right thing. ....They have no one there with the leadership and talent of Davies for this job. That's a myth...Keir Starmer (whom I've seen close up at work) is IMHO a very clever,able and tough cookie indeed who knows how to handle the realpolitik of negotiating...David Davies by comparison comes across as about as able as Claude Davis in relation to Sakho.
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Kermit8 Hevon 30 May 17 7.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yeah, the bloke to slagged off the vote for independence from the EU on the grounds of it being economically risky but who himself supported Scottish independence in their referendum....Despite their own obvious economic risks. Kermit you are a hypocrite. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 May 2017 7.45pm) I didn't...sorry to poop on your 'hypocrisy' party....but now I do if the iniquituos Hard Right Tories are taking over which it looking more and more likely. No point in both countries being ruined by the same destructive force is there?
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