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 matt_himself  Matataland 19 Apr 15 1.39pm |
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The more ideologically driven someone is the more they fall into the trap of simplifying people and the political landscape. It just seems like a bad starting point. Jamie doesn't come in for quite so much criticism as the rest of us because he's fair, self aware, not waving a finger at anyone, and generally has really fleshed out ideas about the world. As for debate, almost everyone is constantly looking to reaffirm their own ideas, rather than change their mind about anything. Which in and of itself suggests that on some level we all know we hold somewhat brainwashed views of the world. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 1.50pm)
I'd agree with your opinion that's he as a very good poster, independent of whether people agree with him or not, that's recognised by many, including me. However, you're wrong to accuse me or something yet ignore it when Jamie on the very same page has done the very same thing. I don't really have an issue with the 'lefty righty' generalization thing in practice....How could I as I use it myself....I was only pointing out that I thought Jamie's point was wrong about the right's general attitude towards the NHS and Welfare. You've kind of blown up that point......It isn't that big a deal. People can, 'lefty righty' away as much as they like, surely.....And posters can tell them they are talking BS in reply. That's apart of the knockabout. I've been informed by the forum and some of my views altered by posters whose views I read and respect.....Right or left or neither. A closed mind is a limited one. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 2.40pm) Yes I agree on the knockabout point on here, there's definitely something to that. I'm sure people would find more commonality in person. I can see it now. Matt and Nick, arm in arm.
You would have been otherwise occupied. Troll. Ever heard of a laptop, Matt? I often comment in game threads during live games too. Is that okay with you? It seems I need to check. Troll this, troll that. Get back to making Columbo style sweeping generalisations of the black community picked up while trying to get your end away. That's more entertaining No sale. The dig in the second paragraph is trolling. So when you are denying trolling, you are trolling to do this!
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It's quite touching that you do troll me but ultimately pointless and I understand what you are about and will question you and your motives.
There is no motive towards you, talk about self importance. I'm happy not to talk to you, but then we'll get to see who the real troll is, because you'll continue to carry on just as you have here with your 'attack then play victim' routine. You take the forum too seriously. I won't take the bait and am not getting dragged into the Matt Vortex today so will leave you to your Sunday seething, while I have my Sunday roast
All of this talk of you being a victim and 'nasty Matt' targeting you is bollocks. You are a troll, pure and simple. I will give you credit for the fact that you hide it behind some eloquent and tactical aware posts, however you don't fool me. Anyhow, it's been over a month since you last changed your username so will it be time soon that you turn up with a new Moniker. I was talking about Nigel Farage. You were not even part of that discussion either. It's you who is overly concerned with me. When someone tells you they won't even talk to you if you don't want them to, and then you keep going on and on that tells you all you need to know. Like I said, I'm not getting sucked into the Matt vortex. It's pointless. Got to make dinner, go rant at Nick instead You are running away because you don't have a leg to stand on. You know I have the measure of you and your baiting tactics. I bet you masturbate whilst posting this bile. Ah, the Gusset insult. As limp as Pele's cock. What I have posted is not bile. It's factual. I think you know in your heart of hearts that 'Think/Iambored' is a troll.
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And sometimes people's views are informed.....And yes, indeed, sometimes altered.| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 19 Apr 15 2.14pm |
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Quote matt_himself at 19 Apr 2015 1.39pm
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The more ideologically driven someone is the more they fall into the trap of simplifying people and the political landscape. It just seems like a bad starting point. Jamie doesn't come in for quite so much criticism as the rest of us because he's fair, self aware, not waving a finger at anyone, and generally has really fleshed out ideas about the world. As for debate, almost everyone is constantly looking to reaffirm their own ideas, rather than change their mind about anything. Which in and of itself suggests that on some level we all know we hold somewhat brainwashed views of the world. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 1.50pm)
I'd agree with your opinion that's he as a very good poster, independent of whether people agree with him or not, that's recognised by many, including me. However, you're wrong to accuse me or something yet ignore it when Jamie on the very same page has done the very same thing. I don't really have an issue with the 'lefty righty' generalization thing in practice....How could I as I use it myself....I was only pointing out that I thought Jamie's point was wrong about the right's general attitude towards the NHS and Welfare. You've kind of blown up that point......It isn't that big a deal. People can, 'lefty righty' away as much as they like, surely.....And posters can tell them they are talking BS in reply. That's apart of the knockabout. I've been informed by the forum and some of my views altered by posters whose views I read and respect.....Right or left or neither. A closed mind is a limited one. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 2.40pm) Yes I agree on the knockabout point on here, there's definitely something to that. I'm sure people would find more commonality in person. I can see it now. Matt and Nick, arm in arm.
You would have been otherwise occupied. Troll. Ever heard of a laptop, Matt? I often comment in game threads during live games too. Is that okay with you? It seems I need to check. Troll this, troll that. Get back to making Columbo style sweeping generalisations of the black community picked up while trying to get your end away. That's more entertaining No sale. The dig in the second paragraph is trolling. So when you are denying trolling, you are trolling to do this!
Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 7.02pm)
It's quite touching that you do troll me but ultimately pointless and I understand what you are about and will question you and your motives.
There is no motive towards you, talk about self importance. I'm happy not to talk to you, but then we'll get to see who the real troll is, because you'll continue to carry on just as you have here with your 'attack then play victim' routine. You take the forum too seriously. I won't take the bait and am not getting dragged into the Matt Vortex today so will leave you to your Sunday seething, while I have my Sunday roast
All of this talk of you being a victim and 'nasty Matt' targeting you is bollocks. You are a troll, pure and simple. I will give you credit for the fact that you hide it behind some eloquent and tactical aware posts, however you don't fool me. Anyhow, it's been over a month since you last changed your username so will it be time soon that you turn up with a new Moniker. I was talking about Nigel Farage. You were not even part of that discussion either. It's you who is overly concerned with me. When someone tells you they won't even talk to you if you don't want them to, and then you keep going on and on that tells you all you need to know. Like I said, I'm not getting sucked into the Matt vortex. It's pointless. Got to make dinner, go rant at Nick instead You are running away because you don't have a leg to stand on. You know I have the measure of you and your baiting tactics. I bet you masturbate whilst posting this bile. Ah, the Gusset insult. As limp as Pele's cock. What I have posted is not bile. It's factual. I think you know in your heart of hearts that 'Think/Iambored' is a troll.
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| matt_himself Matataland 19 Apr 15 3.00pm |
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a Gusset deflection - we Nearly got full house in 'Gusset Bungo'. All we need is a menstrual, misunderstood and misdirected rant on how how I 'don't care that people are going to food banks' and we have the lot. Are you going to answer my question from last week on what constitutes a 'worker'? In your words 'tick tock'.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 19 Apr 15 3.10pm |
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Quote matt_himself at 19 Apr 2015 3.00pm
a Gusset deflection - we Nearly got full house in 'Gusset Bungo'. All we need is a menstrual, misunderstood and misdirected rant on how how I 'don't care that people are going to food banks' and we have the lot. Are you going to answer my question from last week on what constitutes a 'worker'? In your words 'tick tock'.
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| matt_himself Matataland 19 Apr 15 3.31pm |
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a Gusset deflection - we Nearly got full house in 'Gusset Bungo'. All we need is a menstrual, misunderstood and misdirected rant on how how I 'don't care that people are going to food banks' and we have the lot. Are you going to answer my question from last week on what constitutes a 'worker'? In your words 'tick tock'.
For f***s sake Gusset, it is a simple question. What is the lefts definition of 'worker' in post post modern society? Surely the left has changed its perspective on the Original Marxist definitions of society given that globalisation has fragmented traditional groupings. I suspect you don't know the definition of 'worker'.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 19 Apr 15 3.50pm |
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Quote matt_himself at 19 Apr 2015 3.31pm
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a Gusset deflection - we Nearly got full house in 'Gusset Bungo'. All we need is a menstrual, misunderstood and misdirected rant on how how I 'don't care that people are going to food banks' and we have the lot. Are you going to answer my question from last week on what constitutes a 'worker'? In your words 'tick tock'.
For f***s sake Gusset, it is a simple question. What is the lefts definition of 'worker' in post post modern society? Surely the left has changed its perspective on the Original Marxist definitions of society given that globalisation has fragmented traditional groupings. I suspect you don't know the definition of 'worker'.
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Hmm. Do they really have a clue?
Forgetting the pollution aspects and the pure expense. Life span at CURRENT usage is 200 years, imagine how long that would last if were to replace coal and oil just in Western Europe. Too make it anyway useful you would need to develop / invent fast breeder tech or learn to extract uranium from sea water. But you may as well burn money if possible at all. BTW...does anyone know who matt means when he talks of trolls with multiple log ons?
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| pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 19 Apr 15 8.20pm |
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Have a look back a few pages. You, Michael and Peffers are having a circle jerk about Peffers voting UKIP. What was you comment? 'Having a foreign wife or girlfriend helps [if you vote UKIP]'. Quote clearly directed, at least in part, at me and designed to bait. You knew what you were trying to do and don't patronise me by coming back and saying that my 'self importance' is deluding my opinion of you. All of this talk of you being a victim and 'nasty Matt' targeting you is bollocks. You are a troll, pure and simple. I will give you credit for the fact that you hide it behind some eloquent and tactical aware posts, however you don't fool me. Anyhow, it's been over a month since you last changed your username so will it be time soon that you turn up with a new Moniker. I was talking about Nigel Farage. You were not even part of that discussion either. It's you who is overly concerned with me. When someone tells you they won't even talk to you if you don't want them to, and then you keep going on and on that tells you all you need to know. Like I said, I'm not getting sucked into the Matt vortex. It's pointless. Got to make dinner, go rant at Nick instead
Personally, I was talking about Farage, I had no idea Matt had purchased a wife. I thought that would make you more open to immigration?!
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| matt_himself Matataland 20 Apr 15 6.17am |
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Quote nickgusset at 19 Apr 2015 3.50pm
Quote matt_himself at 19 Apr 2015 3.31pm
Quote nickgusset at 19 Apr 2015 3.10pm
Quote matt_himself at 19 Apr 2015 3.00pm
a Gusset deflection - we Nearly got full house in 'Gusset Bungo'. All we need is a menstrual, misunderstood and misdirected rant on how how I 'don't care that people are going to food banks' and we have the lot. Are you going to answer my question from last week on what constitutes a 'worker'? In your words 'tick tock'.
For f***s sake Gusset, it is a simple question. What is the lefts definition of 'worker' in post post modern society? Surely the left has changed its perspective on the Original Marxist definitions of society given that globalisation has fragmented traditional groupings. I suspect you don't know the definition of 'worker'.
The hat trick. Look forward to your explanation of the term 'worker' in due course.
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| matt_himself Matataland 20 Apr 15 6.18am |
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Quote pefwin at 19 Apr 2015 8.20pm
Quote imbored at 19 Apr 2015 10.22am
Quote matt_himself at 19 Apr 2015 9.38am
Have a look back a few pages. You, Michael and Peffers are having a circle jerk about Peffers voting UKIP. What was you comment? 'Having a foreign wife or girlfriend helps [if you vote UKIP]'. Quote clearly directed, at least in part, at me and designed to bait. You knew what you were trying to do and don't patronise me by coming back and saying that my 'self importance' is deluding my opinion of you. All of this talk of you being a victim and 'nasty Matt' targeting you is bollocks. You are a troll, pure and simple. I will give you credit for the fact that you hide it behind some eloquent and tactical aware posts, however you don't fool me. Anyhow, it's been over a month since you last changed your username so will it be time soon that you turn up with a new Moniker. I was talking about Nigel Farage. You were not even part of that discussion either. It's you who is overly concerned with me. When someone tells you they won't even talk to you if you don't want them to, and then you keep going on and on that tells you all you need to know. Like I said, I'm not getting sucked into the Matt vortex. It's pointless. Got to make dinner, go rant at Nick instead
Personally, I was talking about Farage, I had no idea Matt had purchased a wife. I thought that would make you more open to immigration?!
Pefwin - the 2015 version of Hale and Pace.
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| matt_himself Matataland 20 Apr 15 6.21am |
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Quote pefwin at 19 Apr 2015 8.08pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 19 Apr 2015 11.27am
Quote nickgusset at 19 Apr 2015 11.15am
Hmm. Do they really have a clue?
Forgetting the pollution aspects and the pure expense. Life span at CURRENT usage is 200 years, imagine how long that would last if were to replace coal and oil just in Western Europe. Too make it anyway useful you would need to develop / invent fast breeder tech or learn to extract uranium from sea water. But you may as well burn money if possible at all. BTW...does anyone know who matt means when he talks of trolls with multiple log ons?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 Apr 15 7.14am |
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Food for thought.
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