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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Oct 16 12.44pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by leifandersonshair

Ha, seriously?! Wealth drags all people upward sounds like 'trickle down economics' which has been super successful right? I feel so much better knowing that 1% are so much richer, and apparently dragging me up with them. Thanks, the 1%!

I take your point that poverty in 2016 is very different from poverty in 1916 or 1816. But anyone who thinks that there is not real poverty in this country (someone who cannot get enough to eat, regularly, and faces hard choices about whether to turn on the heating or pay the rent in the winter) is delusional. It isn't just 'don't have a plasma screen TV' "poverty".

Yes seriously.
The trickle down might not be much as we would want but it is a economic fact. The world population is relatively wealthier than ever before. Key word "relatively". There will always be the wealthy and they are wealthier than ever before but the rest of us benefit.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Oct 16 3.36pm

Seems Corbyn waited for May's speech before releasing a press statement.

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“Conservative Party leaders have sunk to a new low this week as they fan the flames of xenophobia and hatred in our communities and try to blame foreigners for their own failures.

“Drawing up lists of foreign workers won’t stop unscrupulous employers undercutting wages in Britain. Shutting the door to international students won’t pay young people’s tuition fee debts, and ditching doctors from abroad won’t cut NHS waiting lists.

“The Conservatives will instead foster division and discrimination in our workplaces and communities.

“Once again, they are making false promises on immigration they can’t deliver. Instead of turning people against each other, ministers should take action now to deal with the real impact of migration.

“They should stop the abuse of migrant labour to undercut pay and conditions, which would reduce numbers.

“They should support communities with high levels of migration and they should set out a positive agenda for fair migration rules as part of the Brexit negotiations for a new relationship with the European Union.”
Wonder if the papers and other media will bother to run with it...

Edited by nickgusset (05 Oct 2016 3.39pm)

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Oct 16 4.03pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Seems Corbyn waited for May's speech before releasing a press statement.

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“Conservative Party leaders have sunk to a new low this week as they fan the flames of xenophobia and hatred in our communities and try to blame foreigners for their own failures.

“Drawing up lists of foreign workers won’t stop unscrupulous employers undercutting wages in Britain. Shutting the door to international students won’t pay young people’s tuition fee debts, and ditching doctors from abroad won’t cut NHS waiting lists.

“The Conservatives will instead foster division and discrimination in our workplaces and communities.

“Once again, they are making false promises on immigration they can’t deliver. Instead of turning people against each other, ministers should take action now to deal with the real impact of migration.

“They should stop the abuse of migrant labour to undercut pay and conditions, which would reduce numbers.

“They should support communities with high levels of migration and they should set out a positive agenda for fair migration rules as part of the Brexit negotiations for a new relationship with the European Union.”
Wonder if the papers and other media will bother to run with it...

Edited by nickgusset (05 Oct 2016 3.39pm)

Really? Sounds like the usual stock old bollocks you always get from Britain's third Party.(as they will soon be known)

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Oct 16 4.28pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Really? Sounds like the usual stock old bollocks you always get from Britain's third Party.(as they will soon be known)

Ironic that your response is the usual stock old bollocks you always get from Hrolf.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Oct 16 4.31pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Ironic that your response is the usual stock old bollocks you always get from Hrolf.

Yes, but I'm not the leader of the (no) opposition.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Oct 16 4.35pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Yes, but I'm not the leader of the (no) opposition.

At least you admit to your posts being bollocks.

 

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andyg Flag york 05 Oct 16 4.39pm Send a Private Message to andyg Add andyg as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Yes seriously.
The trickle down might not be much as we would want but it is a economic fact. The world population is relatively wealthier than ever before. Key word "relatively". There will always be the wealthy and they are wealthier than ever before but the rest of us benefit.

Wrong. there is no evidence that Trickle Down economics works. Its a complete myth.


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There are so many more studies. Google trickle down economics evidence

when poor people are given money they spend it because they cant afford to save. Rich people stash it away.

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Since 1988 lower earners in developing countries are worse off than in 1988

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Oct 16 4.39pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

At least you admit to your posts being bollocks.

Bollocks to you...........perhaps!

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Oct 16 4.46pm

Originally posted by andyg

Wrong. there is no evidence that Trickle Down economics works. Its a complete myth.


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There are so many more studies. Google trickle down economics evidence

when poor people are given money they spend it because they cant afford to save. Rich people stash it away.

[Link]

Since 1988 lower earners in developing countries are worse off than in 1988


It's the people who benefit from the status quo that perpetuate the 'trickle down economics works' myth and people believe it.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Oct 16 4.51pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by andyg

Wrong. there is no evidence that Trickle Down economics works. Its a complete myth.


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There are so many more studies. Google trickle down economics evidence

when poor people are given money they spend it because they cant afford to save. Rich people stash it away.

[Link]

Since 1988 lower earners in developing countries are worse off than in 1988

Certainly immigration puts a downward pressure on wages which is why the puppet masters who control the EU so desperately want it to continue.

But there is no way that people are worse off than 50, 100 or 200 years ago.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Oct 16 4.56pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Certainly immigration puts a downward pressure on wages which is why the puppet masters who control the EU so desperately want it to continue.

But there is no way that people are worse off than 50, 100 or 200 years ago.

Are immigrants pushing wages down or exploitative employers?

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Oct 16 4.58pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Are immigrants pushing wages down or exploitative employers?

They are part of the same problem.

 

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