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matt_himself Matataland 19 Apr 15 6.41am
Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 7.00pm Quote matt_himself at 18 Apr 2015 6.50pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 6.41pm Quote matt_himself at 18 Apr 2015 6.08pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 3.19pm Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Apr 2015 2.38pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 1.47pm The more ideologically driven someone is the more they fall into the trap of simplifying people and the political landscape. It just seems like a bad starting point. Jamie doesn't come in for quite so much criticism as the rest of us because he's fair, self aware, not waving a finger at anyone, and generally has really fleshed out ideas about the world. As for debate, almost everyone is constantly looking to reaffirm their own ideas, rather than change their mind about anything. Which in and of itself suggests that on some level we all know we hold somewhat brainwashed views of the world. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 1.50pm) Jamie does, in fact, come into quite a lot of criticism. I'd agree with your opinion that's he as a very good poster, independent of whether people agree with him or not, that's recognised by many, including me. However, you're wrong to accuse me or something yet ignore it when Jamie on the very same page has done the very same thing. I don't really have an issue with the 'lefty righty' generalization thing in practice....How could I as I use it myself....I was only pointing out that I thought Jamie's point was wrong about the right's general attitude towards the NHS and Welfare. You've kind of blown up that point......It isn't that big a deal. People can, 'lefty righty' away as much as they like, surely.....And posters can tell them they are talking BS in reply. That's apart of the knockabout. And sometimes people's views are informed.....And yes, indeed, sometimes altered. I've been informed by the forum and some of my views altered by posters whose views I read and respect.....Right or left or neither. A closed mind is a limited one. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 2.40pm) Yes I agree on the knockabout point on here, there's definitely something to that. I'm sure people would find more commonality in person. I can see it now. Matt and Nick, arm in arm. If you were a true Palace fan, you wouldn't have posted that at 3.19 on a Saturday match day. You would have been otherwise occupied. Troll. Ever heard of a laptop, Matt? I often comment in game threads during live games too. Is that okay with you? It seems I need to check. Troll this, troll that. Get back to making Columbo style sweeping generalisations of the black community picked up while trying to get your end away. That's more entertaining . No sale. The dig in the second paragraph is trolling. So when you are denying trolling, you are trolling to do this! You throw all sorts of expletives and crudeness at people on here and you know it. Unless you're completely lacking in self awareness you're as much as a 'troll' as you accuse me of being. You just get annoyed that I don't take the bait like Nick sometimes unfortunately does. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 7.02pm) I am not annoyed at you. You are using deflection tactics to hide the fact that you are a troll, who targets me and uses multiple usernames to do so. It's quite touching that you do troll me but ultimately pointless and I understand what you are about and will question you and your motives. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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The more ideologically driven someone is the more they fall into the trap of simplifying people and the political landscape. It just seems like a bad starting point.

Jamie doesn't come in for quite so much criticism as the rest of us because he's fair, self aware, not waving a finger at anyone, and generally has really fleshed out ideas about the world.

As for debate, almost everyone is constantly looking to reaffirm their own ideas, rather than change their mind about anything. Which in and of itself suggests that on some level we all know we hold somewhat brainwashed views of the world.

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 1.50pm)

Jamie does, in fact, come into quite a lot of criticism.

I'd agree with your opinion that's he as a very good poster, independent of whether people agree with him or not, that's recognised by many, including me.

However, you're wrong to accuse me or something yet ignore it when Jamie on the very same page has done the very same thing.

I don't really have an issue with the 'lefty righty' generalization thing in practice....How could I as I use it myself....I was only pointing out that I thought Jamie's point was wrong about the right's general attitude towards the NHS and Welfare.

You've kind of blown up that point......It isn't that big a deal.

People can, 'lefty righty' away as much as they like, surely.....And posters can tell them they are talking BS in reply.

That's apart of the knockabout. And sometimes people's views are informed.....And yes, indeed, sometimes altered.

I've been informed by the forum and some of my views altered by posters whose views I read and respect.....Right or left or neither.

A closed mind is a limited one.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 2.40pm)

Yes I agree on the knockabout point on here, there's definitely something to that. I'm sure people would find more commonality in person. I can see it now. Matt and Nick, arm in arm.

If you were a true Palace fan, you wouldn't have posted that at 3.19 on a Saturday match day.

You would have been otherwise occupied.

Troll.

Ever heard of a laptop, Matt? I often comment in game threads during live games too. Is that okay with you? It seems I need to check.

Troll this, troll that. Get back to making Columbo style sweeping generalisations of the black community picked up while trying to get your end away. That's more entertaining .

No sale. The dig in the second paragraph is trolling. So when you are denying trolling, you are trolling to do this!

You throw all sorts of expletives and crudeness at people on here and you know it. Unless you're completely lacking in self awareness you're as much as a 'troll' as you accuse me of being. You just get annoyed that I don't take the bait like Nick sometimes unfortunately does.

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 7.02pm)

I am not annoyed at you. You are using deflection tactics to hide the fact that you are a troll, who targets me and uses multiple usernames to do so.

It's quite touching that you do troll me but ultimately pointless and I understand what you are about and will question you and your motives.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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imbored UK 19 Apr 15 9.16am
Quote matt_himself at 19 Apr 2015 6.41am Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 7.00pm Quote matt_himself at 18 Apr 2015 6.50pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 6.41pm Quote matt_himself at 18 Apr 2015 6.08pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 3.19pm Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Apr 2015 2.38pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 1.47pm The more ideologically driven someone is the more they fall into the trap of simplifying people and the political landscape. It just seems like a bad starting point. Jamie doesn't come in for quite so much criticism as the rest of us because he's fair, self aware, not waving a finger at anyone, and generally has really fleshed out ideas about the world. As for debate, almost everyone is constantly looking to reaffirm their own ideas, rather than change their mind about anything. Which in and of itself suggests that on some level we all know we hold somewhat brainwashed views of the world. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 1.50pm) Jamie does, in fact, come into quite a lot of criticism. I'd agree with your opinion that's he as a very good poster, independent of whether people agree with him or not, that's recognised by many, including me. However, you're wrong to accuse me or something yet ignore it when Jamie on the very same page has done the very same thing. I don't really have an issue with the 'lefty righty' generalization thing in practice....How could I as I use it myself....I was only pointing out that I thought Jamie's point was wrong about the right's general attitude towards the NHS and Welfare. You've kind of blown up that point......It isn't that big a deal. People can, 'lefty righty' away as much as they like, surely.....And posters can tell them they are talking BS in reply. That's apart of the knockabout. And sometimes people's views are informed.....And yes, indeed, sometimes altered. I've been informed by the forum and some of my views altered by posters whose views I read and respect.....Right or left or neither. A closed mind is a limited one. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 2.40pm) Yes I agree on the knockabout point on here, there's definitely something to that. I'm sure people would find more commonality in person. I can see it now. Matt and Nick, arm in arm. If you were a true Palace fan, you wouldn't have posted that at 3.19 on a Saturday match day. You would have been otherwise occupied. Troll. Ever heard of a laptop, Matt? I often comment in game threads during live games too. Is that okay with you? It seems I need to check. Troll this, troll that. Get back to making Columbo style sweeping generalisations of the black community picked up while trying to get your end away. That's more entertaining . No sale. The dig in the second paragraph is trolling. So when you are denying trolling, you are trolling to do this! You throw all sorts of expletives and crudeness at people on here and you know it. Unless you're completely lacking in self awareness you're as much as a 'troll' as you accuse me of being. You just get annoyed that I don't take the bait like Nick sometimes unfortunately does. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 7.02pm) I am not annoyed at you. You are using deflection tactics to hide the fact that you are a troll, who targets me and uses multiple usernames to do so. It's quite touching that you do troll me but ultimately pointless and I understand what you are about and will question you and your motives. I wasn't even talking to you in this thread when you came stomping in launching an attack on me for replying to someone during a match. There is no motive towards you, talk about self importance. I'm happy not to talk to you, but then we'll get to see who the real troll is, because you'll continue to carry on just as you have here with your 'attack then play victim' routine. You take the forum too seriously. I won't take the bait and am not getting dragged into the Matt Vortex today so will leave you to your Sunday seething, while I have my Sunday roast .
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The more ideologically driven someone is the more they fall into the trap of simplifying people and the political landscape. It just seems like a bad starting point.

Jamie doesn't come in for quite so much criticism as the rest of us because he's fair, self aware, not waving a finger at anyone, and generally has really fleshed out ideas about the world.

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 1.50pm)

Jamie does, in fact, come into quite a lot of criticism.

I'd agree with your opinion that's he as a very good poster, independent of whether people agree with him or not, that's recognised by many, including me.

However, you're wrong to accuse me or something yet ignore it when Jamie on the very same page has done the very same thing.

You've kind of blown up that point......It isn't that big a deal.

People can, 'lefty righty' away as much as they like, surely.....And posters can tell them they are talking BS in reply.

That's apart of the knockabout. And sometimes people's views are informed.....And yes, indeed, sometimes altered.

I've been informed by the forum and some of my views altered by posters whose views I read and respect.....Right or left or neither.

A closed mind is a limited one.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 2.40pm)

Yes I agree on the knockabout point on here, there's definitely something to that. I'm sure people would find more commonality in person. I can see it now. Matt and Nick, arm in arm.

If you were a true Palace fan, you wouldn't have posted that at 3.19 on a Saturday match day.

You would have been otherwise occupied.

Troll.

Ever heard of a laptop, Matt? I often comment in game threads during live games too. Is that okay with you? It seems I need to check.

Troll this, troll that. Get back to making Columbo style sweeping generalisations of the black community picked up while trying to get your end away. That's more entertaining .

No sale. The dig in the second paragraph is trolling. So when you are denying trolling, you are trolling to do this!

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 7.02pm)

I am not annoyed at you. You are using deflection tactics to hide the fact that you are a troll, who targets me and uses multiple usernames to do so.

It's quite touching that you do troll me but ultimately pointless and I understand what you are about and will question you and your motives.

I wasn't even talking to you in this thread when you came stomping in launching an attack on me for replying to someone during a match.

There is no motive towards you, talk about self importance. I'm happy not to talk to you, but then we'll get to see who the real troll is, because you'll continue to carry on just as you have here with your 'attack then play victim' routine. You take the forum too seriously. I won't take the bait and am not getting dragged into the Matt Vortex today so will leave you to your Sunday seething, while I have my Sunday roast .

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matt_himself Matataland 19 Apr 15 9.38am
Quote imbored at 19 Apr 2015 9.16am Quote matt_himself at 19 Apr 2015 6.41am Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 7.00pm Quote matt_himself at 18 Apr 2015 6.50pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 6.41pm Quote matt_himself at 18 Apr 2015 6.08pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 3.19pm Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Apr 2015 2.38pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 1.47pm The more ideologically driven someone is the more they fall into the trap of simplifying people and the political landscape. It just seems like a bad starting point. Jamie doesn't come in for quite so much criticism as the rest of us because he's fair, self aware, not waving a finger at anyone, and generally has really fleshed out ideas about the world. As for debate, almost everyone is constantly looking to reaffirm their own ideas, rather than change their mind about anything. Which in and of itself suggests that on some level we all know we hold somewhat brainwashed views of the world. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 1.50pm) Jamie does, in fact, come into quite a lot of criticism. I'd agree with your opinion that's he as a very good poster, independent of whether people agree with him or not, that's recognised by many, including me. However, you're wrong to accuse me or something yet ignore it when Jamie on the very same page has done the very same thing. I don't really have an issue with the 'lefty righty' generalization thing in practice....How could I as I use it myself....I was only pointing out that I thought Jamie's point was wrong about the right's general attitude towards the NHS and Welfare. You've kind of blown up that point......It isn't that big a deal. People can, 'lefty righty' away as much as they like, surely.....And posters can tell them they are talking BS in reply. That's apart of the knockabout. And sometimes people's views are informed.....And yes, indeed, sometimes altered. I've been informed by the forum and some of my views altered by posters whose views I read and respect.....Right or left or neither. A closed mind is a limited one. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 2.40pm) Yes I agree on the knockabout point on here, there's definitely something to that. I'm sure people would find more commonality in person. I can see it now. Matt and Nick, arm in arm. If you were a true Palace fan, you wouldn't have posted that at 3.19 on a Saturday match day. You would have been otherwise occupied. Troll. Ever heard of a laptop, Matt? I often comment in game threads during live games too. Is that okay with you? It seems I need to check. Troll this, troll that. Get back to making Columbo style sweeping generalisations of the black community picked up while trying to get your end away. That's more entertaining . No sale. The dig in the second paragraph is trolling. So when you are denying trolling, you are trolling to do this! You throw all sorts of expletives and crudeness at people on here and you know it. Unless you're completely lacking in self awareness you're as much as a 'troll' as you accuse me of being. You just get annoyed that I don't take the bait like Nick sometimes unfortunately does. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 7.02pm) I am not annoyed at you. You are using deflection tactics to hide the fact that you are a troll, who targets me and uses multiple usernames to do so. It's quite touching that you do troll me but ultimately pointless and I understand what you are about and will question you and your motives. I wasn't even talking to you in this thread when you came stomping in launching an attack on me for replying to someone during a match. There is no motive towards you, talk about self importance. I'm happy not to talk to you, but then we'll get to see who the real troll is, because you'll continue to carry on just as you have here with your 'attack then play victim' routine. You take the forum too seriously. I won't take the bait and am not getting dragged into the Matt Vortex today so will leave you to your Sunday seething, while I have my Sunday roast . Have a look back a few pages. You, Michael and Peffers are having a circle jerk about Peffers voting UKIP. What was you comment? 'Having a foreign wife or girlfriend helps [if you vote UKIP]'. Quote clearly directed, at least in part, at me and designed to bait. You knew what you were trying to do and don't patronise me by coming back and saying that my 'self importance' is deluding my opinion of you. All of this talk of you being a victim and 'nasty Matt' targeting you is bollocks. You are a troll, pure and simple. I will give you credit for the fact that you hide it behind some eloquent and tactical aware posts, however you don't fool me. Anyhow, it's been over a month since you last changed your username so will it be time soon that you turn up with a new Moniker. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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The more ideologically driven someone is the more they fall into the trap of simplifying people and the political landscape. It just seems like a bad starting point.

Jamie doesn't come in for quite so much criticism as the rest of us because he's fair, self aware, not waving a finger at anyone, and generally has really fleshed out ideas about the world.

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 1.50pm)

Jamie does, in fact, come into quite a lot of criticism.

I'd agree with your opinion that's he as a very good poster, independent of whether people agree with him or not, that's recognised by many, including me.

However, you're wrong to accuse me or something yet ignore it when Jamie on the very same page has done the very same thing.

You've kind of blown up that point......It isn't that big a deal.

People can, 'lefty righty' away as much as they like, surely.....And posters can tell them they are talking BS in reply.

That's apart of the knockabout. And sometimes people's views are informed.....And yes, indeed, sometimes altered.

I've been informed by the forum and some of my views altered by posters whose views I read and respect.....Right or left or neither.

A closed mind is a limited one.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 2.40pm)

Yes I agree on the knockabout point on here, there's definitely something to that. I'm sure people would find more commonality in person. I can see it now. Matt and Nick, arm in arm.

If you were a true Palace fan, you wouldn't have posted that at 3.19 on a Saturday match day.

You would have been otherwise occupied.

Troll.

Ever heard of a laptop, Matt? I often comment in game threads during live games too. Is that okay with you? It seems I need to check.

Troll this, troll that. Get back to making Columbo style sweeping generalisations of the black community picked up while trying to get your end away. That's more entertaining .

No sale. The dig in the second paragraph is trolling. So when you are denying trolling, you are trolling to do this!

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 7.02pm)

I am not annoyed at you. You are using deflection tactics to hide the fact that you are a troll, who targets me and uses multiple usernames to do so.

It's quite touching that you do troll me but ultimately pointless and I understand what you are about and will question you and your motives.

I wasn't even talking to you in this thread when you came stomping in launching an attack on me for replying to someone during a match.

Have a look back a few pages. You, Michael and Peffers are having a circle jerk about Peffers voting UKIP. What was you comment? 'Having a foreign wife or girlfriend helps [if you vote UKIP]'. Quote clearly directed, at least in part, at me and designed to bait. You knew what you were trying to do and don't patronise me by coming back and saying that my 'self importance' is deluding my opinion of you.

All of this talk of you being a victim and 'nasty Matt' targeting you is bollocks. You are a troll, pure and simple. I will give you credit for the fact that you hide it behind some eloquent and tactical aware posts, however you don't fool me.

Anyhow, it's been over a month since you last changed your username so will it be time soon that you turn up with a new Moniker.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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matt_himself Matataland 19 Apr 15 9.40am
Quote imbored at 19 Apr 2015 9.16am Quote matt_himself at 19 Apr 2015 6.41am Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 7.00pm Quote matt_himself at 18 Apr 2015 6.50pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 6.41pm Quote matt_himself at 18 Apr 2015 6.08pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 3.19pm Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Apr 2015 2.38pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 1.47pm The more ideologically driven someone is the more they fall into the trap of simplifying people and the political landscape. It just seems like a bad starting point. Jamie doesn't come in for quite so much criticism as the rest of us because he's fair, self aware, not waving a finger at anyone, and generally has really fleshed out ideas about the world. As for debate, almost everyone is constantly looking to reaffirm their own ideas, rather than change their mind about anything. Which in and of itself suggests that on some level we all know we hold somewhat brainwashed views of the world. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 1.50pm) Jamie does, in fact, come into quite a lot of criticism. I'd agree with your opinion that's he as a very good poster, independent of whether people agree with him or not, that's recognised by many, including me. However, you're wrong to accuse me or something yet ignore it when Jamie on the very same page has done the very same thing. I don't really have an issue with the 'lefty righty' generalization thing in practice....How could I as I use it myself....I was only pointing out that I thought Jamie's point was wrong about the right's general attitude towards the NHS and Welfare. You've kind of blown up that point......It isn't that big a deal. People can, 'lefty righty' away as much as they like, surely.....And posters can tell them they are talking BS in reply. That's apart of the knockabout. And sometimes people's views are informed.....And yes, indeed, sometimes altered. I've been informed by the forum and some of my views altered by posters whose views I read and respect.....Right or left or neither. A closed mind is a limited one. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 2.40pm) Yes I agree on the knockabout point on here, there's definitely something to that. I'm sure people would find more commonality in person. I can see it now. Matt and Nick, arm in arm. If you were a true Palace fan, you wouldn't have posted that at 3.19 on a Saturday match day. You would have been otherwise occupied. Troll. Ever heard of a laptop, Matt? I often comment in game threads during live games too. Is that okay with you? It seems I need to check. Troll this, troll that. Get back to making Columbo style sweeping generalisations of the black community picked up while trying to get your end away. That's more entertaining . No sale. The dig in the second paragraph is trolling. So when you are denying trolling, you are trolling to do this! You throw all sorts of expletives and crudeness at people on here and you know it. Unless you're completely lacking in self awareness you're as much as a 'troll' as you accuse me of being. You just get annoyed that I don't take the bait like Nick sometimes unfortunately does. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 7.02pm) I am not annoyed at you. You are using deflection tactics to hide the fact that you are a troll, who targets me and uses multiple usernames to do so. It's quite touching that you do troll me but ultimately pointless and I understand what you are about and will question you and your motives. I wasn't even talking to you in this thread when you came stomping in launching an attack on me for replying to someone during a match. There is no motive towards you, talk about self importance. I'm happy not to talk to you, but then we'll get to see who the real troll is, because you'll continue to carry on just as you have here with your 'attack then play victim' routine. You take the forum too seriously. I won't take the bait and am not getting dragged into the Matt Vortex today so will leave you to your Sunday seething, while I have my Sunday roast . Also, when I 'came stomping in and launched an attack' who were you talking about in that post? Gusset and Me. You are a troll. Pure and simple. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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The more ideologically driven someone is the more they fall into the trap of simplifying people and the political landscape. It just seems like a bad starting point.

Jamie doesn't come in for quite so much criticism as the rest of us because he's fair, self aware, not waving a finger at anyone, and generally has really fleshed out ideas about the world.

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 1.50pm)

Jamie does, in fact, come into quite a lot of criticism.

I'd agree with your opinion that's he as a very good poster, independent of whether people agree with him or not, that's recognised by many, including me.

However, you're wrong to accuse me or something yet ignore it when Jamie on the very same page has done the very same thing.

You've kind of blown up that point......It isn't that big a deal.

People can, 'lefty righty' away as much as they like, surely.....And posters can tell them they are talking BS in reply.

That's apart of the knockabout. And sometimes people's views are informed.....And yes, indeed, sometimes altered.

I've been informed by the forum and some of my views altered by posters whose views I read and respect.....Right or left or neither.

A closed mind is a limited one.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 2.40pm)

Yes I agree on the knockabout point on here, there's definitely something to that. I'm sure people would find more commonality in person. I can see it now. Matt and Nick, arm in arm.

If you were a true Palace fan, you wouldn't have posted that at 3.19 on a Saturday match day.

You would have been otherwise occupied.

Troll.

Ever heard of a laptop, Matt? I often comment in game threads during live games too. Is that okay with you? It seems I need to check.

Troll this, troll that. Get back to making Columbo style sweeping generalisations of the black community picked up while trying to get your end away. That's more entertaining .

No sale. The dig in the second paragraph is trolling. So when you are denying trolling, you are trolling to do this!

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 7.02pm)

I am not annoyed at you. You are using deflection tactics to hide the fact that you are a troll, who targets me and uses multiple usernames to do so.

It's quite touching that you do troll me but ultimately pointless and I understand what you are about and will question you and your motives.

I wasn't even talking to you in this thread when you came stomping in launching an attack on me for replying to someone during a match.

Also, when I 'came stomping in and launched an attack' who were you talking about in that post?

Gusset and Me. You are a troll. Pure and simple.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Quote matt_himself at 19 Apr 2015 9.40am Quote imbored at 19 Apr 2015 9.16am Quote matt_himself at 19 Apr 2015 6.41am Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 7.00pm Quote matt_himself at 18 Apr 2015 6.50pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 6.41pm Quote matt_himself at 18 Apr 2015 6.08pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 3.19pm Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Apr 2015 2.38pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 1.47pm The more ideologically driven someone is the more they fall into the trap of simplifying people and the political landscape. It just seems like a bad starting point. Jamie doesn't come in for quite so much criticism as the rest of us because he's fair, self aware, not waving a finger at anyone, and generally has really fleshed out ideas about the world. As for debate, almost everyone is constantly looking to reaffirm their own ideas, rather than change their mind about anything. Which in and of itself suggests that on some level we all know we hold somewhat brainwashed views of the world. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 1.50pm) Jamie does, in fact, come into quite a lot of criticism. I'd agree with your opinion that's he as a very good poster, independent of whether people agree with him or not, that's recognised by many, including me. However, you're wrong to accuse me or something yet ignore it when Jamie on the very same page has done the very same thing. I don't really have an issue with the 'lefty righty' generalization thing in practice....How could I as I use it myself....I was only pointing out that I thought Jamie's point was wrong about the right's general attitude towards the NHS and Welfare. You've kind of blown up that point......It isn't that big a deal. People can, 'lefty righty' away as much as they like, surely.....And posters can tell them they are talking BS in reply. That's apart of the knockabout. And sometimes people's views are informed.....And yes, indeed, sometimes altered. I've been informed by the forum and some of my views altered by posters whose views I read and respect.....Right or left or neither. A closed mind is a limited one. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 2.40pm) Yes I agree on the knockabout point on here, there's definitely something to that. I'm sure people would find more commonality in person. I can see it now. Matt and Nick, arm in arm. If you were a true Palace fan, you wouldn't have posted that at 3.19 on a Saturday match day. You would have been otherwise occupied. Troll. Ever heard of a laptop, Matt? I often comment in game threads during live games too. Is that okay with you? It seems I need to check. Troll this, troll that. Get back to making Columbo style sweeping generalisations of the black community picked up while trying to get your end away. That's more entertaining . No sale. The dig in the second paragraph is trolling. So when you are denying trolling, you are trolling to do this! You throw all sorts of expletives and crudeness at people on here and you know it. Unless you're completely lacking in self awareness you're as much as a 'troll' as you accuse me of being. You just get annoyed that I don't take the bait like Nick sometimes unfortunately does. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 7.02pm) I am not annoyed at you. You are using deflection tactics to hide the fact that you are a troll, who targets me and uses multiple usernames to do so. It's quite touching that you do troll me but ultimately pointless and I understand what you are about and will question you and your motives. I wasn't even talking to you in this thread when you came stomping in launching an attack on me for replying to someone during a match. There is no motive towards you, talk about self importance. I'm happy not to talk to you, but then we'll get to see who the real troll is, because you'll continue to carry on just as you have here with your 'attack then play victim' routine. You take the forum too seriously. I won't take the bait and am not getting dragged into the Matt Vortex today so will leave you to your Sunday seething, while I have my Sunday roast . Also, when I 'came stomping in and launched an attack' who were you talking about in that post? Gusset and Me. You are a troll. Pure and simple. You talking to me. I was having a discussion with someone else when you launched in out of nowhere, yet somehow that constitutes me 'targetting you'.
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The more ideologically driven someone is the more they fall into the trap of simplifying people and the political landscape. It just seems like a bad starting point.

Jamie doesn't come in for quite so much criticism as the rest of us because he's fair, self aware, not waving a finger at anyone, and generally has really fleshed out ideas about the world.

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 1.50pm)

Jamie does, in fact, come into quite a lot of criticism.

I'd agree with your opinion that's he as a very good poster, independent of whether people agree with him or not, that's recognised by many, including me.

However, you're wrong to accuse me or something yet ignore it when Jamie on the very same page has done the very same thing.

You've kind of blown up that point......It isn't that big a deal.

People can, 'lefty righty' away as much as they like, surely.....And posters can tell them they are talking BS in reply.

That's apart of the knockabout. And sometimes people's views are informed.....And yes, indeed, sometimes altered.

I've been informed by the forum and some of my views altered by posters whose views I read and respect.....Right or left or neither.

A closed mind is a limited one.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 2.40pm)

Yes I agree on the knockabout point on here, there's definitely something to that. I'm sure people would find more commonality in person. I can see it now. Matt and Nick, arm in arm.

If you were a true Palace fan, you wouldn't have posted that at 3.19 on a Saturday match day.

You would have been otherwise occupied.

Troll.

Ever heard of a laptop, Matt? I often comment in game threads during live games too. Is that okay with you? It seems I need to check.

Troll this, troll that. Get back to making Columbo style sweeping generalisations of the black community picked up while trying to get your end away. That's more entertaining .

No sale. The dig in the second paragraph is trolling. So when you are denying trolling, you are trolling to do this!

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 7.02pm)

I am not annoyed at you. You are using deflection tactics to hide the fact that you are a troll, who targets me and uses multiple usernames to do so.

It's quite touching that you do troll me but ultimately pointless and I understand what you are about and will question you and your motives.

I wasn't even talking to you in this thread when you came stomping in launching an attack on me for replying to someone during a match.

Also, when I 'came stomping in and launched an attack' who were you talking about in that post?

Gusset and Me. You are a troll. Pure and simple.

You talking to me. I was having a discussion with someone else when you launched in out of nowhere, yet somehow that constitutes me 'targetting you'.

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imbored UK 19 Apr 15 10.22am
Quote matt_himself at 19 Apr 2015 9.38am Quote imbored at 19 Apr 2015 9.16am Quote matt_himself at 19 Apr 2015 6.41am Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 7.00pm Quote matt_himself at 18 Apr 2015 6.50pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 6.41pm Quote matt_himself at 18 Apr 2015 6.08pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 3.19pm Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Apr 2015 2.38pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 1.47pm The more ideologically driven someone is the more they fall into the trap of simplifying people and the political landscape. It just seems like a bad starting point. Jamie doesn't come in for quite so much criticism as the rest of us because he's fair, self aware, not waving a finger at anyone, and generally has really fleshed out ideas about the world. As for debate, almost everyone is constantly looking to reaffirm their own ideas, rather than change their mind about anything. Which in and of itself suggests that on some level we all know we hold somewhat brainwashed views of the world. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 1.50pm) Jamie does, in fact, come into quite a lot of criticism. I'd agree with your opinion that's he as a very good poster, independent of whether people agree with him or not, that's recognised by many, including me. However, you're wrong to accuse me or something yet ignore it when Jamie on the very same page has done the very same thing. I don't really have an issue with the 'lefty righty' generalization thing in practice....How could I as I use it myself....I was only pointing out that I thought Jamie's point was wrong about the right's general attitude towards the NHS and Welfare. You've kind of blown up that point......It isn't that big a deal. People can, 'lefty righty' away as much as they like, surely.....And posters can tell them they are talking BS in reply. That's apart of the knockabout. And sometimes people's views are informed.....And yes, indeed, sometimes altered. I've been informed by the forum and some of my views altered by posters whose views I read and respect.....Right or left or neither. A closed mind is a limited one. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 2.40pm) Yes I agree on the knockabout point on here, there's definitely something to that. I'm sure people would find more commonality in person. I can see it now. Matt and Nick, arm in arm. If you were a true Palace fan, you wouldn't have posted that at 3.19 on a Saturday match day. You would have been otherwise occupied. Troll. Ever heard of a laptop, Matt? I often comment in game threads during live games too. Is that okay with you? It seems I need to check. Troll this, troll that. Get back to making Columbo style sweeping generalisations of the black community picked up while trying to get your end away. That's more entertaining . No sale. The dig in the second paragraph is trolling. So when you are denying trolling, you are trolling to do this! You throw all sorts of expletives and crudeness at people on here and you know it. Unless you're completely lacking in self awareness you're as much as a 'troll' as you accuse me of being. You just get annoyed that I don't take the bait like Nick sometimes unfortunately does. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 7.02pm) I am not annoyed at you. You are using deflection tactics to hide the fact that you are a troll, who targets me and uses multiple usernames to do so. It's quite touching that you do troll me but ultimately pointless and I understand what you are about and will question you and your motives. I wasn't even talking to you in this thread when you came stomping in launching an attack on me for replying to someone during a match. There is no motive towards you, talk about self importance. I'm happy not to talk to you, but then we'll get to see who the real troll is, because you'll continue to carry on just as you have here with your 'attack then play victim' routine. You take the forum too seriously. I won't take the bait and am not getting dragged into the Matt Vortex today so will leave you to your Sunday seething, while I have my Sunday roast . Have a look back a few pages. You, Michael and Peffers are having a circle jerk about Peffers voting UKIP. What was you comment? 'Having a foreign wife or girlfriend helps [if you vote UKIP]'. Quote clearly directed, at least in part, at me and designed to bait. You knew what you were trying to do and don't patronise me by coming back and saying that my 'self importance' is deluding my opinion of you. All of this talk of you being a victim and 'nasty Matt' targeting you is bollocks. You are a troll, pure and simple. I will give you credit for the fact that you hide it behind some eloquent and tactical aware posts, however you don't fool me. Anyhow, it's been over a month since you last changed your username so will it be time soon that you turn up with a new Moniker. I was talking about Nigel Farage. You were not even part of that discussion either. It's you who is overly concerned with me. When someone tells you they won't even talk to you if you don't want them to, and then you keep going on and on that tells you all you need to know. Like I said, I'm not getting sucked into the Matt vortex. It's pointless. Got to make dinner, go rant at Nick instead
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The more ideologically driven someone is the more they fall into the trap of simplifying people and the political landscape. It just seems like a bad starting point.

Jamie doesn't come in for quite so much criticism as the rest of us because he's fair, self aware, not waving a finger at anyone, and generally has really fleshed out ideas about the world.

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 1.50pm)

Jamie does, in fact, come into quite a lot of criticism.

I'd agree with your opinion that's he as a very good poster, independent of whether people agree with him or not, that's recognised by many, including me.

However, you're wrong to accuse me or something yet ignore it when Jamie on the very same page has done the very same thing.

You've kind of blown up that point......It isn't that big a deal.

People can, 'lefty righty' away as much as they like, surely.....And posters can tell them they are talking BS in reply.

That's apart of the knockabout. And sometimes people's views are informed.....And yes, indeed, sometimes altered.

I've been informed by the forum and some of my views altered by posters whose views I read and respect.....Right or left or neither.

A closed mind is a limited one.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 2.40pm)

Yes I agree on the knockabout point on here, there's definitely something to that. I'm sure people would find more commonality in person. I can see it now. Matt and Nick, arm in arm.

If you were a true Palace fan, you wouldn't have posted that at 3.19 on a Saturday match day.

You would have been otherwise occupied.

Troll.

Ever heard of a laptop, Matt? I often comment in game threads during live games too. Is that okay with you? It seems I need to check.

Troll this, troll that. Get back to making Columbo style sweeping generalisations of the black community picked up while trying to get your end away. That's more entertaining .

No sale. The dig in the second paragraph is trolling. So when you are denying trolling, you are trolling to do this!

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 7.02pm)

I am not annoyed at you. You are using deflection tactics to hide the fact that you are a troll, who targets me and uses multiple usernames to do so.

It's quite touching that you do troll me but ultimately pointless and I understand what you are about and will question you and your motives.

I wasn't even talking to you in this thread when you came stomping in launching an attack on me for replying to someone during a match.

Have a look back a few pages. You, Michael and Peffers are having a circle jerk about Peffers voting UKIP. What was you comment? 'Having a foreign wife or girlfriend helps [if you vote UKIP]'. Quote clearly directed, at least in part, at me and designed to bait. You knew what you were trying to do and don't patronise me by coming back and saying that my 'self importance' is deluding my opinion of you.

Anyhow, it's been over a month since you last changed your username so will it be time soon that you turn up with a new Moniker.

I was talking about Nigel Farage. You were not even part of that discussion either. It's you who is overly concerned with me. When someone tells you they won't even talk to you if you don't want them to, and then you keep going on and on that tells you all you need to know.

Like I said, I'm not getting sucked into the Matt vortex. It's pointless. Got to make dinner, go rant at Nick instead

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Quote nickgusset at 19 Apr 2015 11.15am Hmm. Do they really have a clue? Nuclear is sustainable energy. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Hmm. Do they really have a clue?

Nuclear is sustainable energy.

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Quote Stirlingsays at 19 Apr 2015 11.27am Quote nickgusset at 19 Apr 2015 11.15am Hmm. Do they really have a clue? Nuclear is sustainable energy. Thanks to our current and previous government blanket ignoring of future energy provision....Mainly because, while it's vital, it's also expensive and it's a long term task and thankless within one term. The 'problem' has been dealt with but allowing the nuclear problem to be sold off to foreign companies who are going to charge us a flipping arm and a leg once the new plants are functional. Good luck to the poor in this country when that starts up. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Hmm. Do they really have a clue?

Nuclear is sustainable energy.

Thanks to our current and previous government blanket ignoring of future energy provision....Mainly because, while it's vital, it's also expensive and it's a long term task and thankless within one term.

The 'problem' has been dealt with but allowing the nuclear problem to be sold off to foreign companies who are going to charge us a flipping arm and a leg once the new plants are functional.

Good luck to the poor in this country when that starts up.

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Quote Stirlingsays at 19 Apr 2015 11.33am Quote Stirlingsays at 19 Apr 2015 11.27am Quote nickgusset at 19 Apr 2015 11.15am Hmm. Do they really have a clue? Nuclear is sustainable energy. Thanks to our current and previous government blanket ignoring of future energy provision....Mainly because, while it's vital, it's also expensive and it's a long term task and thankless within one term. The 'problem' has been dealt with but allowing the nuclear problem to be sold off to foreign companies who are going to charge us a flipping arm and a leg once the new plants are functional. Good luck to the poor in this country when that starts up. It's not only nuclear that's been sold off to foreign companies...
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Hmm. Do they really have a clue?

Nuclear is sustainable energy.

The 'problem' has been dealt with but allowing the nuclear problem to be sold off to foreign companies who are going to charge us a flipping arm and a leg once the new plants are functional.

Good luck to the poor in this country when that starts up.

It's not only nuclear that's been sold off to foreign companies...

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matt_himself Matataland 19 Apr 15 12.13pm
Quote imbored at 19 Apr 2015 10.22am Quote matt_himself at 19 Apr 2015 9.38am Quote imbored at 19 Apr 2015 9.16am Quote matt_himself at 19 Apr 2015 6.41am Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 7.00pm Quote matt_himself at 18 Apr 2015 6.50pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 6.41pm Quote matt_himself at 18 Apr 2015 6.08pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 3.19pm Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Apr 2015 2.38pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 1.47pm The more ideologically driven someone is the more they fall into the trap of simplifying people and the political landscape. It just seems like a bad starting point. Jamie doesn't come in for quite so much criticism as the rest of us because he's fair, self aware, not waving a finger at anyone, and generally has really fleshed out ideas about the world. As for debate, almost everyone is constantly looking to reaffirm their own ideas, rather than change their mind about anything. Which in and of itself suggests that on some level we all know we hold somewhat brainwashed views of the world. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 1.50pm) Jamie does, in fact, come into quite a lot of criticism. I'd agree with your opinion that's he as a very good poster, independent of whether people agree with him or not, that's recognised by many, including me. However, you're wrong to accuse me or something yet ignore it when Jamie on the very same page has done the very same thing. I don't really have an issue with the 'lefty righty' generalization thing in practice....How could I as I use it myself....I was only pointing out that I thought Jamie's point was wrong about the right's general attitude towards the NHS and Welfare. You've kind of blown up that point......It isn't that big a deal. People can, 'lefty righty' away as much as they like, surely.....And posters can tell them they are talking BS in reply. That's apart of the knockabout. And sometimes people's views are informed.....And yes, indeed, sometimes altered. I've been informed by the forum and some of my views altered by posters whose views I read and respect.....Right or left or neither. A closed mind is a limited one. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 2.40pm) Yes I agree on the knockabout point on here, there's definitely something to that. I'm sure people would find more commonality in person. I can see it now. Matt and Nick, arm in arm. If you were a true Palace fan, you wouldn't have posted that at 3.19 on a Saturday match day. You would have been otherwise occupied. Troll. Ever heard of a laptop, Matt? I often comment in game threads during live games too. Is that okay with you? It seems I need to check. Troll this, troll that. Get back to making Columbo style sweeping generalisations of the black community picked up while trying to get your end away. That's more entertaining . No sale. The dig in the second paragraph is trolling. So when you are denying trolling, you are trolling to do this! You throw all sorts of expletives and crudeness at people on here and you know it. Unless you're completely lacking in self awareness you're as much as a 'troll' as you accuse me of being. You just get annoyed that I don't take the bait like Nick sometimes unfortunately does. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 7.02pm) I am not annoyed at you. You are using deflection tactics to hide the fact that you are a troll, who targets me and uses multiple usernames to do so. It's quite touching that you do troll me but ultimately pointless and I understand what you are about and will question you and your motives. I wasn't even talking to you in this thread when you came stomping in launching an attack on me for replying to someone during a match. There is no motive towards you, talk about self importance. I'm happy not to talk to you, but then we'll get to see who the real troll is, because you'll continue to carry on just as you have here with your 'attack then play victim' routine. You take the forum too seriously. I won't take the bait and am not getting dragged into the Matt Vortex today so will leave you to your Sunday seething, while I have my Sunday roast . Have a look back a few pages. You, Michael and Peffers are having a circle jerk about Peffers voting UKIP. What was you comment? 'Having a foreign wife or girlfriend helps [if you vote UKIP]'. Quote clearly directed, at least in part, at me and designed to bait. You knew what you were trying to do and don't patronise me by coming back and saying that my 'self importance' is deluding my opinion of you. All of this talk of you being a victim and 'nasty Matt' targeting you is bollocks. You are a troll, pure and simple. I will give you credit for the fact that you hide it behind some eloquent and tactical aware posts, however you don't fool me. Anyhow, it's been over a month since you last changed your username so will it be time soon that you turn up with a new Moniker. I was talking about Nigel Farage. You were not even part of that discussion either. It's you who is overly concerned with me. When someone tells you they won't even talk to you if you don't want them to, and then you keep going on and on that tells you all you need to know. Like I said, I'm not getting sucked into the Matt vortex. It's pointless. Got to make dinner, go rant at Nick instead You are running away because you don't have a leg to stand on. You know I have the measure of you and your baiting tactics. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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The more ideologically driven someone is the more they fall into the trap of simplifying people and the political landscape. It just seems like a bad starting point.

Jamie doesn't come in for quite so much criticism as the rest of us because he's fair, self aware, not waving a finger at anyone, and generally has really fleshed out ideas about the world.

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 1.50pm)

Jamie does, in fact, come into quite a lot of criticism.

I'd agree with your opinion that's he as a very good poster, independent of whether people agree with him or not, that's recognised by many, including me.

However, you're wrong to accuse me or something yet ignore it when Jamie on the very same page has done the very same thing.

You've kind of blown up that point......It isn't that big a deal.

People can, 'lefty righty' away as much as they like, surely.....And posters can tell them they are talking BS in reply.

That's apart of the knockabout. And sometimes people's views are informed.....And yes, indeed, sometimes altered.

I've been informed by the forum and some of my views altered by posters whose views I read and respect.....Right or left or neither.

A closed mind is a limited one.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 2.40pm)

Yes I agree on the knockabout point on here, there's definitely something to that. I'm sure people would find more commonality in person. I can see it now. Matt and Nick, arm in arm.

If you were a true Palace fan, you wouldn't have posted that at 3.19 on a Saturday match day.

You would have been otherwise occupied.

Troll.

Ever heard of a laptop, Matt? I often comment in game threads during live games too. Is that okay with you? It seems I need to check.

Troll this, troll that. Get back to making Columbo style sweeping generalisations of the black community picked up while trying to get your end away. That's more entertaining .

No sale. The dig in the second paragraph is trolling. So when you are denying trolling, you are trolling to do this!

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 7.02pm)

I am not annoyed at you. You are using deflection tactics to hide the fact that you are a troll, who targets me and uses multiple usernames to do so.

It's quite touching that you do troll me but ultimately pointless and I understand what you are about and will question you and your motives.

I wasn't even talking to you in this thread when you came stomping in launching an attack on me for replying to someone during a match.

Anyhow, it's been over a month since you last changed your username so will it be time soon that you turn up with a new Moniker.

Like I said, I'm not getting sucked into the Matt vortex. It's pointless. Got to make dinner, go rant at Nick instead

You are running away because you don't have a leg to stand on. You know I have the measure of you and your baiting tactics.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Quote matt_himself at 19 Apr 2015 12.13pm Quote imbored at 19 Apr 2015 10.22am Quote matt_himself at 19 Apr 2015 9.38am Quote imbored at 19 Apr 2015 9.16am Quote matt_himself at 19 Apr 2015 6.41am Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 7.00pm Quote matt_himself at 18 Apr 2015 6.50pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 6.41pm Quote matt_himself at 18 Apr 2015 6.08pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 3.19pm Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Apr 2015 2.38pm Quote imbored at 18 Apr 2015 1.47pm The more ideologically driven someone is the more they fall into the trap of simplifying people and the political landscape. It just seems like a bad starting point. Jamie doesn't come in for quite so much criticism as the rest of us because he's fair, self aware, not waving a finger at anyone, and generally has really fleshed out ideas about the world. As for debate, almost everyone is constantly looking to reaffirm their own ideas, rather than change their mind about anything. Which in and of itself suggests that on some level we all know we hold somewhat brainwashed views of the world. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 1.50pm) Jamie does, in fact, come into quite a lot of criticism. I'd agree with your opinion that's he as a very good poster, independent of whether people agree with him or not, that's recognised by many, including me. However, you're wrong to accuse me or something yet ignore it when Jamie on the very same page has done the very same thing. I don't really have an issue with the 'lefty righty' generalization thing in practice....How could I as I use it myself....I was only pointing out that I thought Jamie's point was wrong about the right's general attitude towards the NHS and Welfare. You've kind of blown up that point......It isn't that big a deal. People can, 'lefty righty' away as much as they like, surely.....And posters can tell them they are talking BS in reply. That's apart of the knockabout. And sometimes people's views are informed.....And yes, indeed, sometimes altered. I've been informed by the forum and some of my views altered by posters whose views I read and respect.....Right or left or neither. A closed mind is a limited one. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 2.40pm) Yes I agree on the knockabout point on here, there's definitely something to that. I'm sure people would find more commonality in person. I can see it now. Matt and Nick, arm in arm. If you were a true Palace fan, you wouldn't have posted that at 3.19 on a Saturday match day. You would have been otherwise occupied. Troll. Ever heard of a laptop, Matt? I often comment in game threads during live games too. Is that okay with you? It seems I need to check. Troll this, troll that. Get back to making Columbo style sweeping generalisations of the black community picked up while trying to get your end away. That's more entertaining . No sale. The dig in the second paragraph is trolling. So when you are denying trolling, you are trolling to do this! You throw all sorts of expletives and crudeness at people on here and you know it. Unless you're completely lacking in self awareness you're as much as a 'troll' as you accuse me of being. You just get annoyed that I don't take the bait like Nick sometimes unfortunately does. Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 7.02pm) I am not annoyed at you. You are using deflection tactics to hide the fact that you are a troll, who targets me and uses multiple usernames to do so. It's quite touching that you do troll me but ultimately pointless and I understand what you are about and will question you and your motives. I wasn't even talking to you in this thread when you came stomping in launching an attack on me for replying to someone during a match. There is no motive towards you, talk about self importance. I'm happy not to talk to you, but then we'll get to see who the real troll is, because you'll continue to carry on just as you have here with your 'attack then play victim' routine. You take the forum too seriously. I won't take the bait and am not getting dragged into the Matt Vortex today so will leave you to your Sunday seething, while I have my Sunday roast . Have a look back a few pages. You, Michael and Peffers are having a circle jerk about Peffers voting UKIP. What was you comment? 'Having a foreign wife or girlfriend helps [if you vote UKIP]'. Quote clearly directed, at least in part, at me and designed to bait. You knew what you were trying to do and don't patronise me by coming back and saying that my 'self importance' is deluding my opinion of you. All of this talk of you being a victim and 'nasty Matt' targeting you is bollocks. You are a troll, pure and simple. I will give you credit for the fact that you hide it behind some eloquent and tactical aware posts, however you don't fool me. Anyhow, it's been over a month since you last changed your username so will it be time soon that you turn up with a new Moniker. I was talking about Nigel Farage. You were not even part of that discussion either. It's you who is overly concerned with me. When someone tells you they won't even talk to you if you don't want them to, and then you keep going on and on that tells you all you need to know. Like I said, I'm not getting sucked into the Matt vortex. It's pointless. Got to make dinner, go rant at Nick instead You are running away because you don't have a leg to stand on. You know I have the measure of you and your baiting tactics. I bet you masturbate whilst posting this bile.
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The more ideologically driven someone is the more they fall into the trap of simplifying people and the political landscape. It just seems like a bad starting point.

Jamie doesn't come in for quite so much criticism as the rest of us because he's fair, self aware, not waving a finger at anyone, and generally has really fleshed out ideas about the world.

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 1.50pm)

Jamie does, in fact, come into quite a lot of criticism.

I'd agree with your opinion that's he as a very good poster, independent of whether people agree with him or not, that's recognised by many, including me.

However, you're wrong to accuse me or something yet ignore it when Jamie on the very same page has done the very same thing.

You've kind of blown up that point......It isn't that big a deal.

People can, 'lefty righty' away as much as they like, surely.....And posters can tell them they are talking BS in reply.

That's apart of the knockabout. And sometimes people's views are informed.....And yes, indeed, sometimes altered.

I've been informed by the forum and some of my views altered by posters whose views I read and respect.....Right or left or neither.

A closed mind is a limited one.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Apr 2015 2.40pm)

Yes I agree on the knockabout point on here, there's definitely something to that. I'm sure people would find more commonality in person. I can see it now. Matt and Nick, arm in arm.

If you were a true Palace fan, you wouldn't have posted that at 3.19 on a Saturday match day.

You would have been otherwise occupied.

Troll.

Ever heard of a laptop, Matt? I often comment in game threads during live games too. Is that okay with you? It seems I need to check.

Troll this, troll that. Get back to making Columbo style sweeping generalisations of the black community picked up while trying to get your end away. That's more entertaining .

No sale. The dig in the second paragraph is trolling. So when you are denying trolling, you are trolling to do this!

Edited by imbored (18 Apr 2015 7.02pm)

I am not annoyed at you. You are using deflection tactics to hide the fact that you are a troll, who targets me and uses multiple usernames to do so.

It's quite touching that you do troll me but ultimately pointless and I understand what you are about and will question you and your motives.

I wasn't even talking to you in this thread when you came stomping in launching an attack on me for replying to someone during a match.

Anyhow, it's been over a month since you last changed your username so will it be time soon that you turn up with a new Moniker.

Like I said, I'm not getting sucked into the Matt vortex. It's pointless. Got to make dinner, go rant at Nick instead

You are running away because you don't have a leg to stand on. You know I have the measure of you and your baiting tactics.

I bet you masturbate whilst posting this bile.

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