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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Apr 20 10.18pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Alleged. Are you sure you think, even now that these grooming gangs and rapes are only allegations. 100s of pakistani men are in jail for it. Possibly 1000s. Definitely 1000s of girls raped and assaulted and its alleged. Please remember that people are tried as individuals and not as communities. Of course those convicted and in jail are no longer alleged of a crime. They have been tried and found guilty. That's done and dusted. There are though, I believe, many more ongoing investigations and pending cases for which "alleged" is the only appropriate term in law.
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Teddy Eagle 30 Apr 20 10.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
So do you know why it has been kept internal? Or do you, like everyone else it seems, just think you know? In the absence of a more credible reason I’ll accept this one.
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dannyboy1978 30 Apr 20 10.31pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Please remember that people are tried as individuals and not as communities. Of course those convicted and in jail are no longer alleged of a crime. They have been tried and found guilty. That's done and dusted. There are though, I believe, many more ongoing investigations and pending cases for which "alleged" is the only appropriate term in law. Your a nieve peodo sympathiser, I think you should be banned from this site. Enough is enough,
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Apr 20 10.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Putting the report aside. You said alleged rape. How many more convictions of Muslim gangs will it take before you admit there is a problem. How long have these crimes been going on? How many more MPs/ Police Officers statements will it take before you concede Muslim gangs systematically rape vulnerable white girls? It has nothing to do with whether a rape has been alleged. The allegation I referred to was not whether a rape had occurred but the allegation of a ""wholesale rape of thousands of girls by hundreds of pakistani men in an organised and systematic fashion.. and its associated cover-up". No-one has been, or could be, tried and found guilty of such a crime. That's ALL I was saying. It is an allegation, albeit one that's widely made and believed. Why people want to jump on this beats me. Clearly there is a problem. No-one disputes, or has ever disputed that. It has nothing at all to do with that. Not a thing. This is ONLY about the report which has been written as a consequence of the investigation into the background to that problem and the decision to handle it internally.
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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 30 Apr 20 10.57pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
He wont admit it happened and still is happening for some reason. Maybe got a personal interest. That’s what I reckon
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Apr 20 10.58pm | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Your a nieve peodo sympathiser, I think you should be banned from this site. Enough is enough, Don't be so ridiculous. I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone found guilty of paedophilia. I want them found, charged and removed from society unless and until they can be safely returned. Which for some might be never. The naivety is entirely with those determined not to understand the points I am making. Which is solely restricted to why this report might be kept internal. Nothing else at all. Maybe you would now like to apologise.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Apr 20 11.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
In the absence of a more credible reason I’ll accept this one. We can all have an opinion. The point is that no-one actually knows.
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Teddy Eagle 30 Apr 20 11.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
We can all have an opinion. The point is that no-one actually knows. Also depends on whether you accept the reason / justification for the original inaction in these cases.
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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 30 Apr 20 11.09pm | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Your a nieve peodo sympathiser, I think you should be banned from this site. Enough is enough, Could not agree more. Our children have been raped for decades on an industrial scale and all he does is make excuses. Utterly disgusting.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Apr 20 11.25pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
He wont admit it happened and still is happening for some reason. Maybe got a personal interest. What are you talking about? I have never offered an opinion on whether it is still happening. It has clearly happened, because there have been successful prosecutions. For the record I think it is highly likely to still be happening, but hopefully to a much reduced degree due to the level of scrutiny and actions being taken as a consequence. My only interest is the truth. Which means I try to avoid tabloid tittle tattle, look behind the sensational headlines, defend those trying to deal with these things on our behalf and support their efforts. Those people will be held to account in Parliament, especially in select committees, so I have a trust that many don't seem to have.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Apr 20 11.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Also depends on whether you accept the reason / justification for the original inaction in these cases. Which has, no doubt, been investigated.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Apr 20 11.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Could not agree more. Our children have been raped for decades on an industrial scale and all he does is make excuses. Utterly disgusting. Show me where I have made any kind of excuse for any kind of crime. Including these! I sometimes wonder whether people see words but read something else.
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