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Hrolf The Ganger 01 Dec 23 10.53am | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
The people who today are accused of being Far right. Mostly they are tolerant of LGBT, and Jews. And are not even far right at all. Mostly they show more respect for democratic votes than sitting governments. Hitler...antiSemitic, censoring, and marching in the street in military uniform, street violence, .....SinnFein , BLM, Antifa, Quite right.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Dec 23 11.46am | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
The Islamist in Sligo did just that. He castrated his gay victims before decapitating them. And just afterwards the irish Establishment used the crimes to launch a lefty crusade against homophobia.....and potentially more draconian laws. Effectively blaming the Sligo community for one Muslim extremist. The same is happening after the school stabbings.....more draconian laws against irish people for using hurty words. Gaslighting or what ? Hopefully, the Irish people will only be pushed so far by our pathetic, talking-shop government. Fingers crossed the next lot are better as I'm sensing this lot will be wiped out in the next election. (Although, Varadkar will get a cushy EU Commission job - if not half of them: lackeys).
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cryrst The garden of England 01 Dec 23 5.48pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It seems to me that there is less chance of having a sensible debate with anyone who even contemplates conflating two such totally different things. What’s the difference in the fact. Trying to persuade someone so driven; to change their mind when the law says it’s illegal to try to change their mind and if you started trying to convert a Muslim to a different thought process it’s a ‘hate crime’ or some s***e. No difference in the way that works. Do you see ?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Dec 23 8.35pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
What’s the difference in the fact. Trying to persuade someone so driven; to change their mind when the law says it’s illegal to try to change their mind and if you started trying to convert a Muslim to a different thought process it’s a ‘hate crime’ or some s***e. No difference in the way that works. Do you see ? No.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 01 Dec 23 8.41pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
if you started trying to convert a Muslim to a different thought process it’s a ‘hate crime’ or some s***e. Forget about it being illegal in some countries. You could get your head chopped off for going around preaching Christianity/Druidism/Buddhism etc. And an update on the stabbed little girl......the Press moratorium seems to be holding strong, in spite of various rumours. Rumours that even the cats & dogs in the street have heard. Well, we mustn't spark another Riot. Best to keep the public in the dark for another while. Edited by PalazioVecchio (01 Dec 2023 8.46pm)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Dec 23 8.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Over time? This isn't a finite task - there are new arrivals every week who will need this love, care and attention that would make the labours of Hercules look like bob-a-job week. Sweden was a pretty kind and cuddly place; how's it worked out for them? As it will take generations to accomplish it has to be a slow process, during which there will also have to be containment and failures. That it is difficult doesn’t mean it cannot be done. It must be done because there is no other realistic alternative. Sweden hasn’t failed. They just haven’t succeeded yet. They need that time but are probably a few steps closer than us. The “MAGA” boys are not interested in showing those who oppose them any love or consideration. Nor is what they offer a better idea than those of their opponents. The reverse is true for them. They could be weaned off their idolatry by better arguments made quietly and persistently. As soon as Trump is out of sight and hearing that whole structure will crumble like the house of sand it resembles.
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BrentisBack Beckenham 01 Dec 23 9.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
He was on the bench. Been to the killing fields and S-21. Don’t recommend it. Left me depressed for weeks.
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Teddy Eagle 01 Dec 23 11.05pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
As it will take generations to accomplish it has to be a slow process, during which there will also have to be containment and failures. That it is difficult doesn’t mean it cannot be done. It must be done because there is no other realistic alternative. Sweden hasn’t failed. They just haven’t succeeded yet. They need that time but are probably a few steps closer than us. The “MAGA” boys are not interested in showing those who oppose them any love or consideration. Nor is what they offer a better idea than those of their opponents. The reverse is true for them. They could be weaned off their idolatry by better arguments made quietly and persistently. As soon as Trump is out of sight and hearing that whole structure will crumble like the house of sand it resembles. But it's a process with no end to it since new arrivals will need the same treatment.
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Teddy Eagle 01 Dec 23 11.28pm | |
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Originally posted by BrentisBack
Been to the killing fields and S-21. Don’t recommend it. Left me depressed for weeks. Another communist leader who doesn't count.
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eaglesdare 01 Dec 23 11.36pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Hopefully, the Irish people will only be pushed so far by our pathetic, talking-shop government. Fingers crossed the next lot are better as I'm sensing this lot will be wiped out in the next election.(Although, Varadkar will get a cushy EU Commission job - if not half of them: lackeys).
In the last 100 years it's been FF, FG or both. Nothing will change.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Dec 23 11.47pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
But it's a process with no end to it since new arrivals will need the same treatment. If we get it right then any new arrivals will be left in no doubt of what is expected of them and will be tutored about that by their own community. Sweden will come through any current difficulties. You don’t give up after set backs. You learn and try again. If you are seeking to conflate the values espoused by Trump and the British way of life, I don’t. You are right. I would never accept them as they stink. No amount of education or persuasion could disguise that. The British way of life might be thought to stink when first encountered by the radicalised but they can be persuaded that the smell is actually pleasant. It’s a battle between ideas. Present good ideas positively and they will win. There may well be some casualties in the battle, but it can be won.
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Teddy Eagle 02 Dec 23 12.11am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
If we get it right then any new arrivals will be left in no doubt of what is expected of them and will be tutored about that by their own community. Sweden will come through any current difficulties. You don’t give up after set backs. You learn and try again. If you are seeking to conflate the values espoused by Trump and the British way of life, I don’t. You are right. I would never accept them as they stink. No amount of education or persuasion could disguise that. The British way of life might be thought to stink when first encountered by the radicalised but they can be persuaded that the smell is actually pleasant. It’s a battle between ideas. Present good ideas positively and they will win. There may well be some casualties in the battle, but it can be won. Have you seen the crime stats in Sweden?
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