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silvertop Portishead 15 Oct 23 11.05am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Sadly, many civilians are still going to die. As if being forced to live in a 5hlt-hole all their lives wasn't bad enough. With all the military expertise in the world, it will be impossible not to incur significant civilian casualties whilst attempting to pursue Hamas. Israel and everyone else knows this. Yet, without intervention, this is going to happen. The taking of Gaza and building Israeli settlements will be achieved. Knowing the humanitarian disaster that is unfolding, and the Western world does nothing to calm the situation. In fact, it encourages people in Britain to wave Israeli flags. WTF ? Are we living in a civilised world where civilian casualties are just part of the body-count of warfare, at whatever cost ? To me , it is Ethnic cleansing and land-grabbing. with a Hamas cherry on the top. At least with Arab countries now being more vocal, we might see some thought given before more military action. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (15 Oct 2023 4.54am) Agree all this but the final line is key. The behind the scenes diplomacy right now must be intense. Hamas cannot be the new Gabriel Princip.
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Portishead 15 Oct 23 11.05am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Sadly, many civilians are still going to die. As if being forced to live in a 5hlt-hole all their lives wasn't bad enough.
With all the military expertise in the world, it will be impossible not to incur significant civilian casualties whilst attempting to pursue Hamas. Israel and everyone else knows this. Yet, without intervention, this is going to happen.

The taking of Gaza and building Israeli settlements will be achieved.

Knowing the humanitarian disaster that is unfolding, and the Western world does nothing to calm the situation. In fact, it encourages people in Britain to wave Israeli flags. WTF ?

Are we living in a civilised world where civilian casualties are just part of the body-count of warfare, at whatever cost ?
To me , it is Ethnic cleansing and land-grabbing. with a Hamas cherry on the top.

At least with Arab countries now being more vocal, we might see some thought given before more military action.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (15 Oct 2023 4.54am)

Agree all this but the final line is key. The behind the scenes diplomacy right now must be intense. Hamas cannot be the new Gabriel Princip.

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Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 15 Oct 23 11.34am
Has Blinker been to Qatar yet? Isn't the Hamas' leader been given sanctuary in Doha currently? Well, we gave them the World Cup so they must be friends. There is even a Hamas office in Istanbul. Talk about polarisation of global positions.
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Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 15 Oct 23 11.34am

Has Blinker been to Qatar yet? Isn't the Hamas' leader been given sanctuary in Doha currently? Well, we gave them the World Cup so they must be friends.

There is even a Hamas office in Istanbul. Talk about polarisation of global positions.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 15 Oct 23 11.53am
Israel to get the Next World Cup. You heard it here first. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (15 Oct 2023 11.54am) I disengage, I turn the page.
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Israel to get the Next World Cup. You heard it here first.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (15 Oct 2023 11.54am)

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Stirlingsays 15 Oct 23 12.13pm
Originally posted by Slimey Toad Has Blinker been to Qatar yet? Isn't the Hamas' leader been given sanctuary in Doha currently? Well, we gave them the World Cup so they must be friends. There is even a Hamas office in Istanbul. Talk about polarisation of global positions. Qatar fund a lot of anti Israeli movements. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Oct 23 12.13pm

Originally posted by Slimey Toad

Has Blinker been to Qatar yet? Isn't the Hamas' leader been given sanctuary in Doha currently? Well, we gave them the World Cup so they must be friends.

There is even a Hamas office in Istanbul. Talk about polarisation of global positions.

Qatar fund a lot of anti Israeli movements.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 15 Oct 23 12.17pm
Originally posted by silvertop Agree all this but the final line is key. The behind the scenes diplomacy right now must be intense. Hamas cannot be the new Gabriel Princip. Ha. Globalism is great isn't it. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Oct 23 12.17pm

Originally posted by silvertop

Agree all this but the final line is key. The behind the scenes diplomacy right now must be intense. Hamas cannot be the new Gabriel Princip.

Ha.

Globalism is great isn't it.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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HKOwen Hong Kong 15 Oct 23 12.42pm
Originally posted by Slimey Toad I am currently watching David Lammy being interviewed by Trevor Phillips. It is appalling that such an untalented MP can be a front bench spokesman for the HM Opposition. Just parroting the 'Israel has ever right to defend themselves' mantra. He even unwittingly admitted that Israel became a state because of the holocaust. Lammy is an idiot tryng to get in to get elevated and will say anything. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 15 Oct 23 12.42pm

Originally posted by Slimey Toad

I am currently watching David Lammy being interviewed by Trevor Phillips. It is appalling that such an untalented MP can be a front bench spokesman for the HM Opposition. Just parroting the 'Israel has ever right to defend themselves' mantra. He even unwittingly admitted that Israel became a state because of the holocaust.

Lammy is an idiot tryng to get in to get elevated and will say anything.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Stirlingsays 15 Oct 23 3.30pm
Rather intelligently, though no doubt under considerable pressure, the Israeli government have resumed the water supply to the south of the Gaza Strip in order to encourage the Gazans to clear the northern part of the strip. That's what I'm hearing anyway. It also looks like Hezbollah are in the fight now.....How much remains to be seen. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Oct 2023 3.33pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Oct 23 3.30pm

Rather intelligently, though no doubt under considerable pressure, the Israeli government have resumed the water supply to the south of the Gaza Strip in order to encourage the Gazans to clear the northern part of the strip.

That's what I'm hearing anyway.

It also looks like Hezbollah are in the fight now.....How much remains to be seen.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Oct 2023 3.33pm)

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cryrst The garden of England 15 Oct 23 4.00pm
Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines Secretly, Israel may consider the hostages already dead and therefore they can focus on eliminating Hamas. However there is an issue in that some of the hostages hold dual nationality and therefore there is probably pressure from the UK and others for Israel to prioritise rescuing them. Not easy. Hamas are masters at tunnel technology and there could be a whole complex beneath the Gaza Strip. There was also an interesting article that Boris Johnson wrote on the Mail Online which was very informative; he remarked that EU and others had given millions in aid, part of which was piping for water/sewage etc. Apparently Hamas dug up some of it to use as rocket launchers, so it’s pretty obvious that their primary aim is attacking Israel rather than caring for their own citizens. (Username suddenly appears to be a bit unfortunate!) The Hamas families will not be in Gaza. They will be in the posh bit near the coast, out of harms way. Hence why Hamas don’t give a toss about the people there. What you see on the news is a tiny part of Palestine. The ‘Croydon’ area compared to coulsdon.
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The garden of England 15 Oct 23 4.00pm

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

Secretly, Israel may consider the hostages already dead and therefore they can focus on eliminating Hamas. However there is an issue in that some of the hostages hold dual nationality and therefore there is probably pressure from the UK and others for Israel to prioritise rescuing them. Not easy.
Hamas are masters at tunnel technology and there could be a whole complex beneath the Gaza Strip. There was also an interesting article that Boris Johnson wrote on the Mail Online which was very informative; he remarked that EU and others had given millions in aid, part of which was piping for water/sewage etc. Apparently Hamas dug up some of it to use as rocket launchers, so it’s pretty obvious that their primary aim is attacking Israel rather than caring for their own citizens.

(Username suddenly appears to be a bit unfortunate!)

The Hamas families will not be in Gaza. They will be in the posh bit near the coast, out of harms way. Hence why Hamas don’t give a toss about the people there. What you see on the news is a tiny part of Palestine. The ‘Croydon’ area compared to coulsdon.

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silvertop Portishead 15 Oct 23 4.01pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Qatar fund a lot of anti Israeli movements. And terrorism in the west (allegedly).
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Portishead 15 Oct 23 4.01pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Qatar fund a lot of anti Israeli movements.

And terrorism in the west (allegedly).

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Stirlingsays 15 Oct 23 4.14pm
Originally posted by silvertop And terrorism in the west (allegedly). As with the House of Saud....often through charity/Mosque proxies...Mind you the western security agencies fund all sort of disruptive stuff all around the world. The average Joe just wants to get on with life without these hubric control freaks blowing us all to hell. The mainstream rarely deem to tell the public about the double facing nature of a lot of what goes on. They just lie about the morality being black and white so that the public back them. As was said in ancient Greek debate: the 'truth' is what the powerful say it is. Whereas the more nuanced know that outside of physically factual events, much of 'truth' is perspective and narrative....whether we agree with it or not. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Oct 2023 4.19pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Oct 23 4.14pm

Originally posted by silvertop

And terrorism in the west (allegedly).

As with the House of Saud....often through charity/Mosque proxies...Mind you the western security agencies fund all sort of disruptive stuff all around the world.

The average Joe just wants to get on with life without these hubric control freaks blowing us all to hell.

The mainstream rarely deem to tell the public about the double facing nature of a lot of what goes on.

They just lie about the morality being black and white so that the public back them.

As was said in ancient Greek debate: the 'truth' is what the powerful say it is.

Whereas the more nuanced know that outside of physically factual events, much of 'truth' is perspective and narrative....whether we agree with it or not.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Oct 2023 4.19pm)

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steeleye20 Croydon 15 Oct 23 9.49pm
'Growing unease in Britain over the horrific plight of Palestinians as Israel retaliates against Hamas aren’t reflected by the Prime Minister and the Labour leader'. Indeed.
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Croydon 15 Oct 23 9.49pm

'Growing unease in Britain over the horrific plight of Palestinians as Israel retaliates against Hamas aren’t reflected by the Prime Minister and the Labour leader'.

Indeed.

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georgenorman 15 Oct 23 9.56pm
Israel are entirely justified in trying to eradicate the Hamas scum. I hope they succeed. All of this has been engineered by Iran, who if they join in, will also be defeated.
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15 Oct 23 9.56pm

Israel are entirely justified in trying to eradicate the Hamas scum. I hope they succeed. All of this has been engineered by Iran, who if they join in, will also be defeated.

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