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 Henry of Peckham  Eton Mess 09 Oct 22 12.11pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Newsflash, the UK is a Parliamentary system not a presidential one. You can google this for more information. In simple terms, the general election chooses a party not the prime minister. The current PM was elected by her constituents as an MP then members of the party as leader. Hope this clears things up. I know what we have but unfortunately, it's farcical that our outdated system allows for someone of her extreme mediocrity to take control of the country and do what she wants. The 'honest' and correct way to have implemented such extreme policy changes would be first to seek a mandate from the whole electorate through a general election. She didn’t do this and in my view, she had no consensus to wreak havoc as an unelected PM.
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| Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 09 Oct 22 12.17pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Merely an attempt to point out that Brexit isn't entirely responsible for the current situation when other countries are in the same position. I didn’t say it was but ill preparation for it has contributed as has the pandemic, the war in Ukraine and now Liz Truss.
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beak  croydon 09 Oct 22 12.24pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Why would they hide ? Did you not understand the fiasco that the "fiscal event" caused? They did not consult the O.B.R. or Bof E and caused major meltdown on the Gilts market so much so that the B o f E had to intervene with £65 Billion Our borrowing costs went higher than Italy or Greece.If you didn't know this you must be living under a rock.QED don't you think?
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| cryrst The garden of England 09 Oct 22 12.30pm |
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Originally posted by beak
Did you not understand the fiasco that the "fiscal event" caused? They did not consult the O.B.R. or Bof E and caused major meltdown on the Gilts market so much so that the B o f E had to intervene with £65 Billion Our borrowing costs went higher than Italy or Greece.If you didn't know this you must be living under a rock.QED don't you think? That’s all well and good and thanks for the economic assessment but why would Tory voters hide ?
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Teddy Eagle  09 Oct 22 12.36pm |
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
I didn’t say it was but ill preparation for it has contributed as has the pandemic, the war in Ukraine and now Liz Truss. No, you didn't but WE did say it was.
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| beak croydon 09 Oct 22 1.40pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
That’s all well and good and thanks for the economic assessment but why would Tory voters hide ? Sheer bloody embarrassment! : Tories =-$
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Midlands Eagle  09 Oct 22 2.01pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Newsflash, the UK is a Parliamentary system not a presidential one. You can google this for more information. In simple terms, the general election chooses a party not the prime minister. The current PM was elected by her constituents as an MP then members of the party as leader. Hope this clears things up. More sarcasm from you I see. Whilst you are correct in theory that's not how it works in practice. Many voters placed their tick in the Conservative box last time round purely to stop Jeremy Corby become Prime Minister and the pollsters confirmed that Tony Blair got into power due to the women's vote as he was allegedly young and good looking
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Oct 22 5.05pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
No, you didn't but WE did say it was. No I didn't. I said what's undoubtedly true. Brexit has added to the problems we face. Problems that other countries don't have. If Brexit was supposed to produce a wave of benefits from freeing up our trading arrangements, it hasn't worked and doesn't look likely to anytime soon. The pandemic and then the war has impacted everyone, but has also made the hit we took from Brexit worse, because our potential partners are suffering to. It was always crazy. Events have doubled down on that.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Oct 22 5.14pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Newsflash, the UK is a Parliamentary system not a presidential one. You can google this for more information. In simple terms, the general election chooses a party not the prime minister. The current PM was elected by her constituents as an MP then members of the party as leader. Hope this clears things up. I don't think anyone argues that the members of a party have the right to choose who leads them. However, who leads the MPs in Parliament ought to be decided by the MPs themselves. Which is theoretically what happens, but in practice they always follow who the party choose as their leader, because their own selection depends on local parties. It needs an overhaul. We now have a PM who was way down the list of the MPs preferred candidates. Who now are led by her.
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| Teddy Eagle 09 Oct 22 5.21pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No I didn't. I said what's undoubtedly true. Brexit has added to the problems we face. Problems that other countries don't have. If Brexit was supposed to produce a wave of benefits from freeing up our trading arrangements, it hasn't worked and doesn't look likely to anytime soon. The pandemic and then the war has impacted everyone, but has also made the hit we took from Brexit worse, because our potential partners are suffering to. It was always crazy. Events have doubled down on that. Well you did say - not the same level of damage caused by Brexit The EU has a higher rate of inflation than us but dont let that hold you back.
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| cryrst The garden of England 09 Oct 22 7.02pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Parliamentarians are elected on the policies articulated in their party’s manifesto. When they veer away from the manifesto they have no mandate. Ask Nadeen Dorries. Are you advocating that a party has to rigidly follow its manifesto pledge or have a new leader or an election? This would mean no hmg would last more that 6 months as every party has and will deviate from theirs dependent on current economic and social climate and situations.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 09 Oct 22 8.04pm |
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Britain is definitely poorer, adrift and alone due to brexit. The last 12 years for the Brits have been a self-inflicted decline. We have lost the ability to address our problems and solve them. Only 2 things have been any good since 2010, the London Olympics 2012, and the re-birth of our football club, Crystal Palace. The latter keeps me going, it just shows what could be done.
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