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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Aug 22 8.55pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger So your previous statement was complete drivel? No. I am not though the least surprised you think it is as your grasp of this situation is far from secure. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 29 Aug 22 8.55pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So your previous statement was complete drivel?

No. I am not though the least surprised you think it is as your grasp of this situation is far from secure.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Hrolf The Ganger 29 Aug 22 9.08pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle No. I am not though the least surprised you think it is as your grasp of this situation is far from secure. After the point at which we elect one of the two available parties, they can effectively legislate whatever they want, providing it gets thought the two houses. We the people do not have any control over that other than through the ballot box unless we have a referendum. You don't like those. We the people of Britain have been subjected to a multitude of negative effects caused entirely by mass immigration, and we could do absolutely nothing about it, since there is no electable political entity currently available that is prepared to put a stop to this cultural suicide. Your statement was total hogwash.
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29 Aug 22 9.08pm

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No. I am not though the least surprised you think it is as your grasp of this situation is far from secure.

After the point at which we elect one of the two available parties, they can effectively legislate whatever they want, providing it gets thought the two houses.

We the people do not have any control over that other than through the ballot box unless we have a referendum.
You don't like those.

We the people of Britain have been subjected to a multitude of negative effects caused entirely by mass immigration, and we could do absolutely nothing about it, since there is no electable political entity currently available that is prepared to put a stop to this cultural suicide.

Your statement was total hogwash.

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silvertop Portishead 29 Aug 22 9.21pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger After the point at which we elect one of the two available parties, they can effectively legislate whatever they want, providing it gets thought the two houses. We the people do not have any control over that other than through the ballot box unless we have a referendum. You don't like those. We the people of Britain have been subjected to a multitude of negative effects caused entirely by mass immigration, and we could do absolutely nothing about it, since there is no electable political entity currently available that is prepared to put a stop to this cultural suicide. Your statement was total hogwash. I knew it! Hrolf and Willo are alter egos!
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silvertop

Portishead 29 Aug 22 9.21pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

After the point at which we elect one of the two available parties, they can effectively legislate whatever they want, providing it gets thought the two houses.

We the people do not have any control over that other than through the ballot box unless we have a referendum.
You don't like those.

Your statement was total hogwash.

I knew it! Hrolf and Willo are alter egos!

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georgenorman 29 Aug 22 9.22pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle What you say is simply untrue. EU Commissioners do not make laws. They propose them under the various treaties each country has agreed to, democratically. The laws are made by the approval of the Council and Parliament, who can dismiss the Commission if they so decide. You may not like the system but it’s not federal. It’s a type of democracy. What you say is simply untrue. EU commissioners are the sole source of EU law - their own website states this! They can propose whatever laws they care to dream up. The EU 'parliament' can vote against or try to amend the commissions proposals, but in the case of certain budgetary matters (eg taxation) and foreign policy matters they can't even do that. It is not democratic when unelected officials make laws. The EU's laws have precedence over member state's laws - it is federal.
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georgenorman

29 Aug 22 9.22pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What you say is simply untrue. EU Commissioners do not make laws. They propose them under the various treaties each country has agreed to, democratically. The laws are made by the approval of the Council and Parliament, who can dismiss the Commission if they so decide. You may not like the system but it’s not federal. It’s a type of democracy.

What you say is simply untrue.
EU commissioners are the sole source of EU law - their own website states this!
They can propose whatever laws they care to dream up. The EU 'parliament' can vote against or try to amend the commissions proposals, but in the case of certain budgetary matters (eg taxation) and foreign policy matters they can't even do that.
It is not democratic when unelected officials make laws.
The EU's laws have precedence over member state's laws - it is federal.

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steeleye20 Croydon 29 Aug 22 10.18pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle What you say is simply untrue. EU Commissioners do not make laws. They propose them under the various treaties each country has agreed to, democratically. The laws are made by the approval of the Council and Parliament, who can dismiss the Commission if they so decide. You may not like the system but it’s not federal. It’s a type of democracy. Federal countries are also democracies like West Germany and the USA. A democracy can be total c**p, I'm afraid. Hopefully it is less likely but ours is not looking too bright.
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steeleye20

Croydon 29 Aug 22 10.18pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Federal countries are also democracies like West Germany and the USA.

A democracy can be total c**p, I'm afraid.

Hopefully it is less likely but ours is not looking too bright.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 30 Aug 22 6.41am
Originally posted by steeleye20 Federal countries are also democracies like West Germany and the USA. A democracy can be total c**p, I'm afraid. Hopefully it is less likely but ours is not looking too bright. On the subject of things that are not too bright.... Breaking news, West Germany is not a country anymore, well done for keeping up. [Link] You might enjoy reading about other events in 1990 apart from the unification of East and West Germany. Edited by HKOwen (30 Aug 2022 6.41am) Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 30 Aug 22 6.41am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Federal countries are also democracies like West Germany and the USA.

A democracy can be total c**p, I'm afraid.

Hopefully it is less likely but ours is not looking too bright.

On the subject of things that are not too bright....

Breaking news, West Germany is not a country anymore, well done for keeping up.

[Link]

You might enjoy reading about other events in 1990 apart from the unification of East and West Germany.

Edited by HKOwen (30 Aug 2022 6.41am)

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Spiderman Horsham 30 Aug 22 8.29am
Originally posted by HKOwen On the subject of things that are not too bright.... Breaking news, West Germany is not a country anymore, well done for keeping up. [Link] You might enjoy reading about other events in 1990 apart from the unification of East and West Germany. Edited by HKOwen (30 Aug 2022 6.41am)
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Spiderman

Horsham 30 Aug 22 8.29am