Leaders lead. They don't put rules in place that fine and arrest people for chatting to neighbours outside, or stop you mourning dead family members while doing exactly as they please themselves. That massively damages confidence in them, and rightly so.

Edited by BlueJay (26 Jan 2022 11.28am)

My extended family are very by the book. When it was 'only six' and all that jazz they would stick to it.

I'm the black sheep in that regard.

As for Johnson.....I've kind of gone over all that but I understand why it's annoying.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Jan 2022 11.31am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

True, there are going to be a lot of blue rinsers clutching their pearls.

To use a double negative, I can't say they don't have a point.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I certainly recall a very early speech where he seemed to want to blast through this and use it as an opportunity to take a different approach to other countries. I'd say that some of the unknowns of the situation at the time partially put pay to that, but I'd agree that I doubt it was his preference. I've always thought that he wanted the job and title, but wasn't that keen on the effort. More political opportunist than conviction politician. Hence these parties, caving when its too much effort not to, simultaneously being convinced that we should leave the EU but also stay in it and so on..

I was not referring to Hunt specifically, but Hunt-esque types.
People who appeal to the middle in order to finally rid the country of the swivel-eyed loons from the far right who have held sway because of Brexit.

Lets see how the cards fall on choice. Neither name you suggest is likely to excite voters. And the elephant in the room is Rishi's race. Given the Tories won a landslide victory from a base consisting of various factions, but including the deeply xenophobic released by Brexit, it will be interesting to see whether those types flock to him. If he is the leader, I suspect those types will not and, with the opposition so hopeless, I predict voter "apathy" and a record low turnout. Then it is anyone's guess who gets the throne?

I think that's fair, it's often been said of Johnson that he doesn't really believe in anything....writing those two letters on the Brexit issue kind of reinforces the 'opportunist' rather than conviction politician claim.

He has charisma and a lot of debating talent, but he just isn't into the hard work required for the top office. Still, it's not as though there are a lot of people desperate to take over considering how difficult it's going to get economically.....If I were them I'd think it better to let him take the blame.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)