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Hrolf The Ganger 17 Nov 21 8.10pm | |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
This explanation is still inexplicably passing off racism as banter. It's also complete conjecture as to whether it was taken as 'banter' at the time or just taken without complaint after constant repetition. This is exactly how bullying works – first few times the victim tries to push back and gets abused or worse, eventually gives up and just accepts it to fit in and not cause any complaint. Further, I can quite easily understand why someone whose livelihood depends on a harmonious team dynamic would not necessarily raise a complaint immediately. People aren't all confident extroverts like, as weird as it is to write, you might appear to be. And even if it was taken as banter, it's still racist, agenda or not. I'm also not taking any of this at face value, you appear to have skipped the part of my response where I clearly question his character as that is being reported but unsurprisingly not very widely. He may well be adding fuel to the fire for extra effect but ultimately have all the accusations of racism been denied? Has anyone seriously implicated mustered legal defence? Multiple defamation suits incoming? No and no. Also bizarrely from someone who hates identity politics so much you're grouping together and negatively labelling all pakistanis as unworthy of employment based on one individual. I mean, really. I think you're a bit muddled. Come off it. There are comedies currently on TV where stereotypes and nationality related jokes are used as banter and no one cares. The issue here is whether this guy was genuinely offended at the time, or whether he became retrospectively offended when it suited him. I have seen no evidence to prove that either way.
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Teddy Eagle 17 Nov 21 8.43pm | |
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Hrolf The Ganger 17 Nov 21 8.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Will the word Pom now be banned? In the wider world, what about Limey? Paleface? Honkey? Round eye? What about Baldy, fatty, shorty, lanky, ginger, man, woman, big nose? I feel some retrospective offence coming on. I'm getting quite upset about what a school mate called me in 1975.
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Mapletree Croydon 17 Nov 21 10.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Will the word Pom now be banned? In the wider world, what about Limey? Paleface? Honkey? Round eye? What about Baldy, fatty, shorty, lanky, ginger, man, woman, big nose? I feel some retrospective offence coming on. I'm getting quite upset about what a school mate called me in 1975. If you got called all those names throughout your schooling no wonder you turned out as you did.
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BlueJay UK 17 Nov 21 10.48pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
If you got called all those names throughout your schooling no wonder you turned out as you did. Hrolf's complaints at being impacted by schoolyard insults really shook up some of his schoolmates. In fact to this day they are still reluctant to employ or work with white people as result of it. Edited by BlueJay (17 Nov 2021 11.07pm)
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DanH SW2 17 Nov 21 10.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Again, call someone a p*ki on the field and it’s still not OK.
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Stirlingsays 17 Nov 21 11.07pm | |
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They will make fun of Hrolf's point because he's white. If he wasn't you wouldn't hear a pin drop.
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DanH SW2 17 Nov 21 11.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
They will make fun of Hrolf's point because he's white. If he wasn't you wouldn't hear a pin drop. You really just don’t get it to you? Has being called a Pom or any of the words he’s used ever systemically held you back in your life? This isn’t really about the words or language necessarily. It’s about attitudes and power. Calling someone a p*ki or a curry muncher is about putting someone in their place and making the recipient aware of where they fit in in the pecking order. You yourself have had one horrible racially motivated incident and it’s scarred you for life. Why are you so belittling of others that have faced it day in day out?
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Teddy Eagle 17 Nov 21 11.30pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Again, call someone a p*ki on the field and it’s still not OK. But Pommie ******* is fine.
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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 17 Nov 21 11.46pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Come off it. There are comedies currently on TV where stereotypes and nationality related jokes are used as banter and no one cares. The issue here is whether this guy was genuinely offended at the time, or whether he became retrospectively offended when it suited him. I have seen no evidence to prove that either way. Yet again, you're mixing 'banta' stereotypes and nationality based jokes (fine) in with racist terms (not fine) and saying they're all fair game and effectively the same level. Really? Muddled. Edited by SW19 CPFC (17 Nov 2021 11.47pm)
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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 17 Nov 21 11.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
But Pommie ******* is fine. Jesus the level of ignorance on this thread is astounding
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Teddy Eagle 18 Nov 21 12.05am | |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Jesus the level of ignorance on this thread is astounding One in four people with body dysmorphia disorder have attempted suicide; having some aspect of your appearance mocked in public isn’t going to help sportspeople who might suffer from it.
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