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Stirlingsays 23 Oct 21 9.54am
Originally posted by HKOwen Diane Abbott and others still use semantics to avoid condemning the brutal murder of PC Blakelock, their words change slightly as they think they might be enobled in the coming years. Disgraceful racist hypocrisy She and others use Windrush as a dog whistle to avoid criticism, the policy that led to the terrible mistakes of Windrush was a Labour policy, an inconvenient truth for many. Edited by HKOwen (23 Oct 2021 7.36am) Diane Abbott's whole career is built upon the double standards of the left over race and the fact that voting minorities are highly biased towards their own regardless of that politician's competence or ethics. If that section of the left hadn't been indoctrinated into self hating virtue signalling she would have had to go and get a real job. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Oct 2021 9.56am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Oct 21 9.54am

Originally posted by HKOwen

Diane Abbott and others still use semantics to avoid condemning the brutal murder of PC Blakelock, their words change slightly as they think they might be enobled in the coming years.

Disgraceful racist hypocrisy

She and others use Windrush as a dog whistle to avoid criticism, the policy that led to the terrible mistakes of Windrush was a Labour policy, an inconvenient truth for many.

Edited by HKOwen (23 Oct 2021 7.36am)

Diane Abbott's whole career is built upon the double standards of the left over race and the fact that voting minorities are highly biased towards their own regardless of that politician's competence or ethics.

If that section of the left hadn't been indoctrinated into self hating virtue signalling she would have had to go and get a real job.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Oct 2021 9.56am)

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cryrst The garden of England 23 Oct 21 9.54am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle What makes me smile is that you don't recognise that they already do support "our kind of society". The majority of British Muslims are peace-loving Brits, just like the rest of us. In my youth most of us were Christians. I attended Church, was a choirboy and server, just because it was expected of me. I am still a cultural Christian, taking pride in the heritage, but I no longer believe, if I ever really did. In a few short years, Christian belief has declined substantially. Atheism and humanism are now found everywhere, when in my youth they were no-where. Who's to say the same won't happen, in time, with British Muslims? In fact the evidence that it IS happening is very clearly already there. Incoming cultures get modified by their exposure to ours. Look at the way the East African Indians have adapted and prospered. The same is happening with the various Muslim communities. It's not yet complete. Be patient. They will still value their cultural traditions, just as I do mine, but as they become more and more British their connection to our culture will be stronger. For many, it already is. There has always been the kind of noise we read on here about recently arrived immigrants. I have heard it many times before. These days, though, the availability of social media changes the dynamic and amplifies it. A small number can make a lot of noise. As they do here. We just need to close our ears to those who shout and listen to the quiet voices of hope. So why; if they are westernised do they give a crap about Syria and Iraq when the west bombed them. Marching to protest about Muslim deaths, surely it shouldn't be the fact they are Muslim deaths but just deaths. Do you see the hypocrisy. It is about being a Muslim first in most cases.
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The garden of England 23 Oct 21 9.54am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What makes me smile is that you don't recognise that they already do support "our kind of society". The majority of British Muslims are peace-loving Brits, just like the rest of us. In my youth most of us were Christians. I attended Church, was a choirboy and server, just because it was expected of me. I am still a cultural Christian, taking pride in the heritage, but I no longer believe, if I ever really did. In a few short years, Christian belief has declined substantially. Atheism and humanism are now found everywhere, when in my youth they were no-where.

Who's to say the same won't happen, in time, with British Muslims? In fact the evidence that it IS happening is very clearly already there.

Incoming cultures get modified by their exposure to ours. Look at the way the East African Indians have adapted and prospered.

The same is happening with the various Muslim communities. It's not yet complete. Be patient. They will still value their cultural traditions, just as I do mine, but as they become more and more British their connection to our culture will be stronger. For many, it already is.

There has always been the kind of noise we read on here about recently arrived immigrants. I have heard it many times before. These days, though, the availability of social media changes the dynamic and amplifies it. A small number can make a lot of noise. As they do here. We just need to close our ears to those who shout and listen to the quiet voices of hope.

So why; if they are westernised do they give a crap about Syria and Iraq when the west bombed them. Marching to protest about Muslim deaths, surely it shouldn't be the fact they are Muslim deaths but just deaths. Do you see the hypocrisy. It is about being a Muslim first in most cases.

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Stirlingsays 23 Oct 21 9.57am
Originally posted by cryrst So why; if they are westernised do they give a crap about Syria and Iraq when the west bombed them. Marching to protest about Muslim deaths, surely it shouldn't be the fact they are Muslim deaths but just deaths. Do you see the hypocrisy. It is about being a Muslim first in most cases. He's deluded, it's not worth it. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Oct 21 9.57am

Originally posted by cryrst

He's deluded, it's not worth it.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Oct 21 11.43am
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Perhaps you should convert to Islam, it might just add some moral fiber to your lifestyle. I eat porridge. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Oct 21 11.43am

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Perhaps you should convert to Islam, it might just add some moral fiber to your lifestyle.

I eat porridge.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Oct 21 10.31pm
Originally posted by cryrst So why; if they are westernised do they give a crap about Syria and Iraq when the west bombed them. Marching to protest about Muslim deaths, surely it shouldn't be the fact they are Muslim deaths but just deaths. Do you see the hypocrisy. It is about being a Muslim first in most cases. Did every British Muslim march in protest about the bombing then? If not what %? Have you asked them what their motivations were? How many other British activists marched? Until you have the answers, the hypocrisy belongs to you. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 23 Oct 21 10.31pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Did every British Muslim march in protest about the bombing then? If not what %? Have you asked them what their motivations were? How many other British activists marched?

Until you have the answers, the hypocrisy belongs to you.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 23 Oct 21 10.40pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Did every British Muslim march in protest about the bombing then? If not what %? Have you asked them what their motivations were? How many other British activists marched? Until you have the answers, the hypocrisy belongs to you. Hypocrisy ? have you read these Holy books ? their treatment of gays, atheists, apostates, jews, dogs, followers of other faiths, livestock....... you do know that David Amess fought against animal cruelty ? Edited by PalazioVecchio (23 Oct 2021 10.50pm) Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Did every British Muslim march in protest about the bombing then? If not what %? Have you asked them what their motivations were? How many other British activists marched?

Until you have the answers, the hypocrisy belongs to you.

Hypocrisy ? have you read these Holy books ? their treatment of gays, atheists, apostates, jews, dogs, followers of other faiths, livestock.......

you do know that David Amess fought against animal cruelty ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (23 Oct 2021 10.50pm)

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Oct 21 10.59pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays He's deluded, it's not worth it. Accusations of delusion, without any reasoning on the detail, is just another ad hominem. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 23 Oct 21 10.59pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

He's deluded, it's not worth it.

Accusations of delusion, without any reasoning on the detail, is just another ad hominem.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 23 Oct 21 11.20pm
No point repeating myself. 'Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.' – Plato 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Oct 21 11.20pm

No point repeating myself.

'Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.' – Plato

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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cryrst The garden of England 24 Oct 21 3.04am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Did every British Muslim march in protest about the bombing then? If not what %? Have you asked them what their motivations were? How many other British activists marched? Until you have the answers, the hypocrisy belongs to you. Semantics and cherry picking. They were more worried about the fact muslims were killed than dead people. Sometimes you have to look at things literally; not always with an anyiltical view.
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The garden of England 24 Oct 21 3.04am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Did every British Muslim march in protest about the bombing then? If not what %? Have you asked them what their motivations were? How many other British activists marched?

Until you have the answers, the hypocrisy belongs to you.

Semantics and cherry picking. They were more worried about the fact muslims were killed than dead people. Sometimes you have to look at things literally; not always with an anyiltical view.

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tonymikejoe UK 24 Oct 21 3.20pm
There was a whole bit on the BBC today during their 'London Politics' programme concerning the safety of MP's. I agree they should be safe, but what about the rest of us? I can assure you the vast, vast majority of victims of Somali violence in this country have not been MP's. Where is our refuge from the refugees? Unsurprisingly our MPs gut reaction is 'I need greater safety' but what about the rest of society? Do we just have to continue tolerating it?
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UK 24 Oct 21 3.20pm

There was a whole bit on the BBC today during their 'London Politics' programme concerning the safety of MP's.
I agree they should be safe, but what about the rest of us?
I can assure you the vast, vast majority of victims of Somali violence in this country have not been MP's.
Where is our refuge from the refugees?
Unsurprisingly our MPs gut reaction is 'I need greater safety' but what about the rest of society?
Do we just have to continue tolerating it?

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 24 Oct 21 4.18pm
Originally posted by tonymikejoe There was a whole bit on the BBC today during their 'London Politics' programme concerning the safety of MP's. I agree they should be safe, but what about the rest of us? I can assure you the vast, vast majority of victims of Somali violence in this country have not been MP's. Where is our refuge from the refugees? Unsurprisingly our MPs gut reaction is 'I need greater safety' but what about the rest of society? Do we just have to continue tolerating it? There is a bit of a point here in that, if the general public are not safe, then of course MPs are not safe. I expect MPs are at higher risk currently, however. This MP was actively targeted and the murder planned in advance. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 24 Oct 21 4.18pm

Originally posted by tonymikejoe

There is a bit of a point here in that, if the general public are not safe, then of course MPs are not safe. I expect MPs are at higher risk currently, however. This MP was actively targeted and the murder planned in advance.

Red and Blue Army!

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BlueJay UK 24 Oct 21 5.47pm
Originally posted by tonymikejoe There was a whole bit on the BBC today during their 'London Politics' programme concerning the safety of MP's. I agree they should be safe, but what about the rest of us? I can assure you the vast, vast majority of victims of Somali violence in this country have not been MP's. Where is our refuge from the refugees? Unsurprisingly our MPs gut reaction is 'I need greater safety' but what about the rest of society? Do we just have to continue tolerating it? It's a numbers game, and also the perceived importance of politicians and their role to society. That's two of them in recent years and logically they are at massively increased risk when compared to the average person. Nor is it always straight forward to know who will be targeting them and why.
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UK 24 Oct 21 5.47pm

Originally posted by tonymikejoe

It's a numbers game, and also the perceived importance of politicians and their role to society. That's two of them in recent years and logically they are at massively increased risk when compared to the average person. Nor is it always straight forward to know who will be targeting them and why.

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