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Stirlingsays 15 Apr 19 6.49pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle What was a good feature has become a weakness but what would you expect from a nation in which a person could accidentally tread on a dogs paw and then effusively apologise to the animal. When I was growing up in the eighties I could have never have imagined what calamities lay ahead. Talk about being ruled over by the pathetic.....even the Royals are sjws now! Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Apr 2019 6.50pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

15 Apr 19 6.49pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

What was a good feature has become a weakness but what would you expect from a nation in which a person could accidentally tread on a dogs paw and then effusively apologise to the animal.

When I was growing up in the eighties I could have never have imagined what calamities lay ahead. Talk about being ruled over by the pathetic.....even the Royals are sjws now!

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Apr 2019 6.50pm)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 15 Apr 19 7.54pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Immigration from the third world is just men , men , and more men. Look at the demographics of all the couple's on your high street. You do the maths. Not very balanced , is it ? It wasn’t originally like that. Remember Harry Enfield’s sketch of the the accurate scene of an inner London coffee/sandwich shop and his daily sexual frustration of should he shouldn’t he say something? Lots of positive words of svelte East European ladies moving into the country from British men. Now we need more male barristas to put a decorative swirl on the top of our daily overpriced coffee paid for credit card and 30% per annum. COYP
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Caterham 15 Apr 19 7.54pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Immigration from the third world is just men , men , and more men.

Look at the demographics of all the couple's on your high street. You do the maths. Not very balanced , is it ?

It wasn’t originally like that. Remember Harry Enfield’s sketch of the the accurate scene of an inner London coffee/sandwich shop and his daily sexual frustration of should he shouldn’t he say something?

Lots of positive words of svelte East European ladies moving into the country from British men.

Now we need more male barristas to put a decorative swirl on the top of our daily overpriced coffee paid for credit card and 30% per annum.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Apr 19 11.23pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Here are two statements: Black and proud. White and proud. One is socially accepted and promoted and the other is constantly portrayed as sinister......pure brain washing. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Apr 2019 4.05pm) It seems to me that you are proposing an equivalence that is incorrect. These terms are used for different reasons because of different circumstances. It is because of racism that "Black and proud" has grown as a means for people of colour to establish respect and gain dignity when in the past they were considered as lesser beings by those with white skins. It is because of racist attitudes that "White and proud", as used by particular groups of white skinned people, has been tainted with sinister attributes. If the day ever arrives when both terms mean the same to everyone then I for one will be very happy that racism has been eliminated throughout society. Right now there is no equivalence. As with so many things context is everything and to ignore it is misleading or even possibly dangerously disingenuous. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 15 Apr 19 11.23pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Here are two statements:

Black and proud.
White and proud.

One is socially accepted and promoted and the other is constantly portrayed as sinister......pure brain washing.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Apr 2019 4.05pm)

It seems to me that you are proposing an equivalence that is incorrect. These terms are used for different reasons because of different circumstances.

It is because of racism that "Black and proud" has grown as a means for people of colour to establish respect and gain dignity when in the past they were considered as lesser beings by those with white skins.

It is because of racist attitudes that "White and proud", as used by particular groups of white skinned people, has been tainted with sinister attributes.

If the day ever arrives when both terms mean the same to everyone then I for one will be very happy that racism has been eliminated throughout society. Right now there is no equivalence. As with so many things context is everything and to ignore it is misleading or even possibly dangerously disingenuous.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 15 Apr 19 11.43pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle It seems to me that you are proposing an equivalence that is incorrect. These terms are used for different reasons because of different circumstances. It is because of racism that "Black and proud" has grown as a means for people of colour to establish respect and gain dignity when in the past they were considered as lesser beings by those with white skins. It is because of racist attitudes that "White and proud", as used by particular groups of white skinned people, has been tainted with sinister attributes. If the day ever arrives when both terms mean the same to everyone then I for one will be very happy that racism has been eliminated throughout society. Right now there is no equivalence. As with so many things context is everything and to ignore it is misleading or even possibly dangerously disingenuous. Absolute and utter anti white BS. You are literally justifying real racism against people with pride in their heritage because of their skin colour. That is literally what you have done here.....You defended a double standard and you promote brain washing. Everyone has a right to have pride in their heritage. It is not dependent upon your skin colour. Fine, if you are white and fine if you are black. It isn't dependent upon some point in the future that you deem acceptable. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Apr 2019 11.55pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Apr 19 11.43pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It seems to me that you are proposing an equivalence that is incorrect. These terms are used for different reasons because of different circumstances.

It is because of racist attitudes that "White and proud", as used by particular groups of white skinned people, has been tainted with sinister attributes.

Absolute and utter anti white BS.

You are literally justifying real racism against people with pride in their heritage because of their skin colour.

That is literally what you have done here.....You defended a double standard and you promote brain washing.

Everyone has a right to have pride in their heritage. It is not dependent upon your skin colour.

Fine, if you are white and fine if you are black.

It isn't dependent upon some point in the future that you deem acceptable.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Apr 2019 11.55pm)

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ChrisGC Wantage 16 Apr 19 12.35am
I was born white but identify as a black man. I find all this talk of white Vs black pride an insult, especially as I'm also a chair trapped in a human body (mahogany, obviously) given that pride continues to deny the struggle of transchair people against chairism. Edited by ChrisGC (16 Apr 2019 12.36am)
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Wantage 16 Apr 19 12.35am

I was born white but identify as a black man. I find all this talk of white Vs black pride an insult, especially as I'm also a chair trapped in a human body (mahogany, obviously) given that pride continues to deny the struggle of transchair people against chairism.

Edited by ChrisGC (16 Apr 2019 12.36am)

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Teddy Eagle 16 Apr 19 12.38am
Originally posted by ChrisGC I was born white but identify as a black man. I find all this talk of white Vs black pride an insult, especially as I'm also a chair trapped in a human body (mahogany, obviously) given that pride continues to deny the struggle of transchair people against chairism. Edited by ChrisGC (16 Apr 2019 12.36am) You may need to produce a stool sample to prove this assertion.
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16 Apr 19 12.38am

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Edited by ChrisGC (16 Apr 2019 12.36am)

You may need to produce a stool sample to prove this assertion.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 16 Apr 19 1.00am
Originally posted by ChrisGC I was born white but identify as a black man. I find all this talk of white Vs black pride an insult, especially as I'm also a chair trapped in a human body (mahogany, obviously) given that pride continues to deny the struggle of transchair people against chairism. Edited by ChrisGC (16 Apr 2019 12.36am) Like Dan Akroyd in Trading Places, dressed and blacked up as a Rasta on the train. ‘Yer mon.’ COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 16 Apr 19 1.00am

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Edited by ChrisGC (16 Apr 2019 12.36am)

Like Dan Akroyd in Trading Places, dressed and blacked up as a Rasta on the train. ‘Yer mon.’

COYP

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dannyboy1978 16 Apr 19 7.51am
As we are talking about racism did everyone notice the big push of kick racism out and leaflets on EVERY SEAT. In 20 years I've never heard of racism at selhurst park. Talk about taring everyone with the same brush, maybe I should be offended like the stop and search mob.
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16 Apr 19 7.51am

As we are talking about racism did everyone notice the big push of kick racism out and leaflets on EVERY SEAT.
In 20 years I've never heard of racism at selhurst park. Talk about taring everyone with the same brush, maybe I should be offended like the stop and search mob.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Apr 19 10.02am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Absolute and utter anti white BS. You are literally justifying real racism against people with pride in their heritage because of their skin colour. That is literally what you have done here.....You defended a double standard and you promote brain washing. Everyone has a right to have pride in their heritage. It is not dependent upon your skin colour. Fine, if you are white and fine if you are black. It isn't dependent upon some point in the future that you deem acceptable. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Apr 2019 11.55pm) There is nothing at all "anti-white" in my comment and for you to see some smacks of closet racism, something that many who show it are in complete denial about. No-one should have any problem with being proud of their heritage but being proud of it because of their skin colour demands further investigation. Those with black skins currently have a valid positive historical reasons to refer to it. Those with white skins have no valid reasons at all. If they claimed to be "British and proud" or "South London and proud" there would be no issue, but using the term "white"in this context is racist. Whether you can see it seems in doubt. It won't be me who determines when it is acceptable. It is only when the use of both terms fade into disuse that that will happen. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 16 Apr 19 10.02am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Absolute and utter anti white BS.

You are literally justifying real racism against people with pride in their heritage because of their skin colour.

That is literally what you have done here.....You defended a double standard and you promote brain washing.

Everyone has a right to have pride in their heritage. It is not dependent upon your skin colour.

Fine, if you are white and fine if you are black.

It isn't dependent upon some point in the future that you deem acceptable.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Apr 2019 11.55pm)

There is nothing at all "anti-white" in my comment and for you to see some smacks of closet racism, something that many who show it are in complete denial about.

No-one should have any problem with being proud of their heritage but being proud of it because of their skin colour demands further investigation. Those with black skins currently have a valid positive historical reasons to refer to it. Those with white skins have no valid reasons at all. If they claimed to be "British and proud" or "South London and proud" there would be no issue, but using the term "white"in this context is racist. Whether you can see it seems in doubt.

It won't be me who determines when it is acceptable. It is only when the use of both terms fade into disuse that that will happen.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Pussay Patrol 16 Apr 19 10.11am
This thread is embarrassing now Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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16 Apr 19 10.11am

This thread is embarrassing now

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Park Road 16 Apr 19 10.42am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle There is nothing at all "anti-white" in my comment and for you to see some smacks of closet racism, something that many who show it are in complete denial about. No-one should have any problem with being proud of their heritage but being proud of it because of their skin colour demands further investigation. Those with black skins currently have a valid positive historical reasons to refer to it. Those with white skins have no valid reasons at all. If they claimed to be "British and proud" or "South London and proud" there would be no issue, but using the term "white"in this context is racist. Whether you can see it seems in doubt. It won't be me who determines when it is acceptable. It is only when the use of both terms fade into disuse that that will happen. Is ok to say "Skinhead and proud"? Edited by Park Road (16 Apr 2019 10.42am)
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16 Apr 19 10.42am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

There is nothing at all "anti-white" in my comment and for you to see some smacks of closet racism, something that many who show it are in complete denial about.

It won't be me who determines when it is acceptable. It is only when the use of both terms fade into disuse that that will happen.

Is ok to say "Skinhead and proud"?

Edited by Park Road (16 Apr 2019 10.42am)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Apr 19 10.53am
Originally posted by Park Road Is ok to say "Skinhead and proud"? Edited by Park Road (16 Apr 2019 10.42am) I wouldn't be proud to say it but it isn't racist and that's what is being discussed. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 16 Apr 19 10.53am

Originally posted by Park Road

Is ok to say "Skinhead and proud"?

Edited by Park Road (16 Apr 2019 10.42am)

I wouldn't be proud to say it but it isn't racist and that's what is being discussed.

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