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Maine Eagle Flag USA 18 Jan 19 6.10pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

I don't understand this analogy.

If you practice hard and are prepared, you pass your driving test.

If you train hard, specifically on shooting, you will score goals.

The competence of the instructor is relevant to success in both instances.

Edited by ChrisGC (18 Jan 2019 6.02pm)

Roy is known as a hard task master, and is well respected by many former players.

I am sure as a Premier League club with a professional coaching setup then the players are getting the right mix of fitness and football in their training week. One thing you cannot accuse Connor Wickham (for example) of is not training hard.

Hodgson is culpable for the decisions he makes tactically, but if you boil it all down you can glean a lot from the stats.

Against Burnley we had 29 shots, 9 on target. This means Hodgson put a team in place, and tactics to support and complement that team, and they carved out 29 sniffs at goal.

The fact that the team could only score from a cross, and a worldie, is a bit harsh to blame on the manager.

I for one think perhaps the coaching of a player like Sorloth may have fallen short, as even his positional sense is terrible. However saying Roy is to blame for the amount of chances which are converted, albeit with some wiggle room based on quality of chance, is harsh.

Is he responsible that Zaha couldnt score a one on one and Jimmy Mac somehow kicked over the ball with an open goal at Watford?

Tactics and chances created can be hung around Hodgson's neck but chances taken? Its up to the player to score from the chance he gets.

Pillory Hodgson when we have matches where we have 2 or 3 shots on goal, but not for the conversion rate.

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 18 Jan 19 6.18pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Haha, that’s why the internet is great. If you disagree I’ll belittle you at best or if all other arguments fail I’ll call you a nazi snowflake.

I was thinking about that how despite how many chances we had against Cardiff, Grimsby and Burnley many of them were just pot shots. Hence why we are only scoring stunners or penalties.

After one of the 2014 World Cup games, against Italy I think, Roy was asked if he was concerned about the number of shots England had against them. Roy said then that he wished there was a statistic that reported how many shots that worried him. At the moment, there aren’t many chances where we are actually looking like it’s a threat.

He just seems to keep us in a non threatening well drilled formation that suffers narrow defeats week in, week out.

You're dead right about social media lol

As for in bold, this is my biggest frustration. It's plan A no matter what. Playing Liverpool? Plan A. Playing Grimsby? Plan A. 2-0 down at half time? Plan A. 3-0 up? (would be nice) Plan A. Unable to hit a barn door with a banjo? Plan A.
I heard Danny Murphy talking about how training never changed no matter what and I can imagine that's the exact same approach now.

If shooting drills weren't in the original blueprint they aren't going to be added even though we drastically need to improve, simple.


 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 18 Jan 19 6.29pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Roy is known as a hard task master, and is well respected by many former players.

I am sure as a Premier League club with a professional coaching setup then the players are getting the right mix of fitness and football in their training week. One thing you cannot accuse Connor Wickham (for example) of is not training hard.

Hodgson is culpable for the decisions he makes tactically, but if you boil it all down you can glean a lot from the stats.

Against Burnley we had 29 shots, 9 on target. This means Hodgson put a team in place, and tactics to support and complement that team, and they carved out 29 sniffs at goal.

The fact that the team could only score from a cross, and a worldie, is a bit harsh to blame on the manager.

I for one think perhaps the coaching of a player like Sorloth may have fallen short, as even his positional sense is terrible. However saying Roy is to blame for the amount of chances which are converted, albeit with some wiggle room based on quality of chance, is harsh.

Is he responsible that Zaha couldnt score a one on one and Jimmy Mac somehow kicked over the ball with an open goal at Watford?

Tactics and chances created can be hung around Hodgson's neck but chances taken? Its up to the player to score from the chance he gets.

Pillory Hodgson when we have matches where we have 2 or 3 shots on goal, but not for the conversion rate.

I agree with that in bold to an extent; practising one on ones would help, but of course individual errors and bad decision making isn't his responsibility. He isn't one of the 11 on the pitch at the end of the day.

Stats can only tell so much of the story, the ones that matter are points taken, and the relevant one is goals scored. Not good.

He is responsible for the why our strikers play under instruction. Sorloth (by all accounts Hodgson's choice) wasn't of the required standard, but how do you explain how the others get used?

Bentekkers working the channels, receiving the ball short and holding up play? He's a head on a stick man, stay in the box and put it on his head lads!
Ayew running about, getting into physical battles when he doesn't have the strength: he's a poacher or a chase down man.
Other than Vs Grimsby when he was in the box and gave us all the opportunity to see how bad he actually is, Sorloth was receiving short and getting into footraces from 30 yards out, when he's a tortoise. All part of Roy's plan A, absolutely no attempt to play to individual strengths.

 

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matthau Flag South Croydon 18 Jan 19 6.29pm Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

im sorry but your both full of do do.

IF plan A wasn't getting us 30 shots per game (aside from Chelsea) then I'd say he needed a plan b, but plan A has been giving us so many chances at goal and so many bloody misses and f ups.

Which proves the plan is not the issue, its the clientele!!

Until Benteke or Wickham are fit enough or we loan someone in, things wont change.

And now you'll say why don't they play Wickham, well just because hes raring to go doesn't mean the guys ready. You don't see what coaches see in training.

Theres nothing wrong with Plan A.

I do have an issue with late subs or not subs but I also understand that Puncheon and a not overly impressive Meyer so far would've changed much last month anyway, even if they did come on in the 50th minute.

Hes a class manager who needs more spending money, he'll prob get that in the summer once we've paid off previous seasons transfers.

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 18 Jan 19 6.39pm

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

I find it amazing that we a constantly in a relegation battle. Lessons surely must have been learned - we have a good squad and although nothing is for granted there is something wrong in the set up. Roy is too negative at home. Attack! 8 defensive players at home is just not right. Have a go, encourage the players to express themselves, have no fear.

Correct. Meyer especially looks terrified to pull the trigger.

 

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Gallery3 Flag South Croydon 18 Jan 19 8.05pm

Wagner? Are you crazy?

Originally posted by rikz

Can't wait to get this season out the way now. Get rid of him and get wagner or rodgers

 

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Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 18 Jan 19 8.22pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Roy is known as a hard task master, and is well respected by many former players.

I am sure as a Premier League club with a professional coaching setup then the players are getting the right mix of fitness and football in their training week. One thing you cannot accuse Connor Wickham (for example) of is not training hard.

Hodgson is culpable for the decisions he makes tactically, but if you boil it all down you can glean a lot from the stats.

Against Burnley we had 29 shots, 9 on target. This means Hodgson put a team in place, and tactics to support and complement that team, and they carved out 29 sniffs at goal.

The fact that the team could only score from a cross, and a worldie, is a bit harsh to blame on the manager.

I for one think perhaps the coaching of a player like Sorloth may have fallen short, as even his positional sense is terrible. However saying Roy is to blame for the amount of chances which are converted, albeit with some wiggle room based on quality of chance, is harsh.

Is he responsible that Zaha couldnt score a one on one and Jimmy Mac somehow kicked over the ball with an open goal at Watford?

Tactics and chances created can be hung around Hodgson's neck but chances taken? Its up to the player to score from the chance he gets.

Pillory Hodgson when we have matches where we have 2 or 3 shots on goal, but not for the conversion rate.

Good points. I feel that Sorloth was a panic buy. Like to be proved wrong but no amount of coaching will make him PL standard. It was a punt in the dark. Somebody within the club obviously felt he had something to offer. If it's Roy then that is a cross against him but he still should be manager. Do we really think that sending him out to Belgium will improve him substantially ? Much better to farm him out to the Championship. He's gone to ease the wage bill presently. Love to be proved wrong and he can come back firing.

Edited by Booted Eagle (18 Jan 2019 8.25pm)

 


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braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 18 Jan 19 8.35pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by matthau

im sorry but your both full of do do.

IF plan A wasn't getting us 30 shots per game (aside from Chelsea) then I'd say he needed a plan b, but plan A has been giving us so many chances at goal and so many bloody misses and f ups.

Which proves the plan is not the issue, its the clientele!!

Until Benteke or Wickham are fit enough or we loan someone in, things wont change.

And now you'll say why don't they play Wickham, well just because hes raring to go doesn't mean the guys ready. You don't see what coaches see in training.

Theres nothing wrong with Plan A.

I do have an issue with late subs or not subs but I also understand that Puncheon and a not overly impressive Meyer so far would've changed much last month anyway, even if they did come on in the 50th minute.

Hes a class manager who needs more spending money, he'll prob get that in the summer once we've paid off previous seasons transfers.


blimming eck, a poster with rational thinking & common sense...hold on a minute.

anybody, wait til bentekkers is firing again.

people will be moaning about s*** hot-dogs & us not signing ronaldinho.

 


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cpj Flag Kent 19 Jan 19 5.07pm Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Why is he smiling at the end of the game today? How many times is that now this season that we've been doing well at half-time and just thrown it away in the second half? Can he not inspire players at all? Brings on Schlupp again when we need a goal so he can move Zaha (no goal in 14) up front? Absolutely clueless.

 

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chateauferret Flag 19 Jan 19 5.16pm

Originally posted by cpj

Why is he smiling at the end of the game today? How many times is that now this season that we've been doing well at half-time and just thrown it away in the second half? Can he not inspire players at all? Brings on Schlupp again when we need a goal so he can move Zaha (no goal in 14) up front? Absolutely clueless.

Some people really do spout bollocks, don't they? Absolute tosh. You do know why Speroni was picked, don't you?

Edited by chateauferret (19 Jan 2019 5.17pm)

 


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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 19 Jan 19 5.18pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

Some people really do spout bollocks, don't they? Absolute tosh. You do know why Speroni was picked, don't you?

Edited by chateauferret (19 Jan 2019 5.17pm)

The post you're commenting on certainly is.

 


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Maine Eagle Flag USA 19 Jan 19 6.37pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Without the shock win at the Etihad we would be only out of the bottom 3 on goal difference. Take away the unexpected 3 points we got verus Wolves and we would be right in the sh*t.

At some point in time you have to say the table doesn't lie.

We need to see improvements against the teams in and around us, this is where we should be edging towards safety.

I believe RH can deliver those results but some of the decisions today are hard to fathom. Once again Schlupp is our impact sub? Its surely an inside joke?

Ayew did well for the Tomkins goal but surely we must give a start to Wickham in the next game, if not Benteke? Our 3rd goal shows what we can do with an actual target man.

The goals we shipped today were 2 very unlucky ones, a howler from Speroni, and 1 well taken goal.

Meanwhile we scored 3 away at Anfield.........and lost.

Lets all just pray we are not looking back on this from the championship all misty eyed come next season when we go down by 1 point.

 


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