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Stirlingsays 02 Jun 20 3.29pm | |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
This is fair, racism isn't exclusive to white/black or black/white. However, to spin it round, there is a clear difference between saying 'I'm not anti-black, I'm just pro-white' and 'I'm anti-black and pro-white' The potential for getting lost in the weeds with that one is pretty high. It's a valid argument but essentially a pointless one. Racism can refer to many different situations. When it comes down to bias I've pointed out the complete inconsistency and hypocrisy of those who claim that people can have no preferences in regards to immutable characteristics. From the preference for the good looking and non preference for the ugly....short to tall....intelligent to dim. All immutable characteristics. But suddenly when it's race any preference you might have is a crime. It's an example of indoctrination. Stormzy can be pro black if he wants. I very much doubt he hates whites. He is doing what most black people do naturally, having a preference for a heritage .....The only annoyance for me is the double standard applied to others. I judge an individual upon how they behave. I judge groups upon holistic data.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 02 Jun 20 3.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
We should pit them against each other on University Challenge Yes, it would be watchable and save a lot of traffic congestion in the process!
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Badger11 Beckenham 02 Jun 20 3.37pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
It's trying to get black people up level and equal with white people. Not to try and drag white people down. It's not that hard to see is it? They go to the same schools as the rest of the population they have the same opportunities as the rest of us. It is only a tiny minority that are the elite and can be called white privilege for the rest of us it is called life. I have worked with plenty of black people who are smart and have some get up and go, one thing they don't do is stand around wringing their hands and complaining. Life is a struggle except for the few. I know plenty of good looking people who sail through life without much effort as doors open for them easily. The rest of us have to work our backsides off, stop complaining until you really have something to complain about.
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DanH SW2 02 Jun 20 3.41pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
They go to the same schools as the rest of the population they have the same opportunities as the rest of us. It is only a tiny minority that are the elite and can be called white privilege for the rest of us it is called life. I have worked with plenty of black people who are smart and have some get up and go, one thing they don't do is stand around wringing their hands and complaining. Life is a struggle except for the few. I know plenty of good looking people who sail through life without much effort as doors open for them easily. The rest of us have to work our backsides off, stop complaining until you really have something to complain about. Guilty.
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Stirlingsays 02 Jun 20 3.41pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
It's trying to get black people up level and equal with white people. Not to try and drag white people down. It's not that hard to see is it?
Why is it this group but not east Asians or Jews or anyone else? There is no legal difference in the law stopping anyone in this country. In fact the law isn't equal and has created a 'diversity' industry that discriminates against meritocracy and focuses only upon racial quotas. As I was raised in a council estate. I really resent your crap that suggests that I had it....easier in some way because I'm white. The opposite is in fact true. Whites in recruitment are so eager for non whites to succeed that they are biased against their own in many cases.
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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 02 Jun 20 3.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Get on your knees whitey and beg forgiveness. Coming to a generation near you. [Tweet Link]
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dannyboy1978 02 Jun 20 3.58pm | |
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George Floyd was a p*** star, you couldn't make it up.
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DanH SW2 02 Jun 20 4.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Why is it this group but not east Asians or Jews or anyone else? There is no legal difference in the law stopping anyone in this country. In fact the law isn't equal and has created a 'diversity' industry that discriminates against meritocracy and focuses only upon racial quotas. As I was raised in a council estate. I really resent your crap that suggests that I had it....easier in some way because I'm white. The opposite is in fact true. Whites in recruitment are so eager for non whites to succeed that they are biased against their own in many cases.
Do you honestly think black people have it exactly the same as white people when it comes to treatment, opportunity, prospects etc. in this country? You seem unable to see past your self (shock) so do you have an example for the class of when you, personally, have been held back in life or mistreated purely because of the colour of your skin? Edited by DanH (02 Jun 2020 4.01pm)
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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 02 Jun 20 4.08pm | |
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Well he’s certainly stiff now
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 02 Jun 20 4.10pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Do you honestly think black people have it exactly the same as white people when it comes to treatment, opportunity, prospects etc. in this country? You seem unable to see past your self (shock) so do you have an example for the class of when you, personally, have been held back in life or mistreated purely because of the colour of your skin? Edited by DanH (02 Jun 2020 4.01pm) Nope not at all, a huge effort has gone into positive discrimination and targeting those with protected characteristics so they have it far better now than your average white, young, able bodied heterosexual male. I have witnessed this first hand for many years in different situations. Problem is they cannot seem to help themselves despite all these leg up programmes. You need to watch a few of the old Muhammad Ali interviews - he will spell it out for you as he did back then when straight talking.
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Matov 02 Jun 20 4.10pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Now I have no idea about what you do professionally but would you be happy to have quotas imposed even if it meant your earning potential might be impacted on? Or perhaps forms of positive discrimination introduced in other areas of life to try and deal with the discrepancies?
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Stirlingsays 02 Jun 20 4.24pm | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Do you honestly think black people have it exactly the same as white people when it comes to treatment, opportunity, prospects etc. in this country? You seem unable to see past your self (shock) so do you have an example for the class of when you, personally, have been held back in life or mistreated purely because of the colour of your skin? Edited by DanH (02 Jun 2020 4.01pm) I know that someone with the right attitude goes far regardless of race. I've seen that many times. As for exactly the same?....I doubt it. People aren't robots. It's an impossible requirement. I think you have double standards. Your attitude towards Stromzy is stark....if a white guy had said that you'd be all over it....so you're no robot either. As for my personal experiences I recall one job interview, about 15 years ago, where I believe I was discriminated against for a less experienced Asian guy based upon race...A panel of white women in educational circles are often not 'pro white', and indeed are the opposite.....Much like you would probably be. So yes I believe that has happened to me. You seem to disregard that most of the public institutions are riddled with leftists who are openly against straight masculine white males. It is what it is....I choose teaching with my eyes wide open and I enjoyed my career there.
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