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Ray in Houston Houston 21 Jul 16 3.36pm | |
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Originally posted by 7mins
If my partner was dying I wouldn't dream of picking up a phone, starting a Facebook app and then live streaming. Victim-blaming negates anything you may have said afterwards. It's always wrong.
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Ray in Houston Houston 21 Jul 16 3.37pm | |
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Originally posted by nairb75
guy shot today helping his job helping an autistic patient. hands were up. Should we read anything into the fact that the cop shot the black guy - who was lying on the ground with his hands raised - not the white guy who was sitting up holding an unknown object? Nah!
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7mins In the bush 21 Jul 16 3.48pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Victim-blaming negates anything you may have said afterwards. It's always wrong. Can you show me where I blamed the victim?
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Ray in Houston Houston 21 Jul 16 3.56pm | |
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Originally posted by 7mins
Can you show me where I blamed the victim?
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nairb75 Baltimore 21 Jul 16 4.11pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Should we read anything into the fact that the cop shot the black guy - who was lying on the ground with his hands raised - not the white guy who was sitting up holding an unknown object? Nah! what's really sad is it was supposed to be a suicide threat. why are they drawing a gun on someone who is supposedly suicidal?
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Stuk Top half 21 Jul 16 4.18pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Er, she wasn't the victim. It's the dead bloke btw.
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Ray in Houston Houston 21 Jul 16 4.23pm | |
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Originally posted by nairb75
what's really sad is it was supposed to be a suicide threat. why are they drawing a gun on someone who is supposedly suicidal? To be fair, the cops were responding to a report of a man with a gun, so it's not unreasonable that they have their guard (and guns) up. What happened thereafter is ridiculous, in need of a proper investigation and - if justified - sanctions against the cop.
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Ray in Houston Houston 21 Jul 16 4.25pm | |
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That's victim blaming, and it's never appropriate.
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7mins In the bush 21 Jul 16 4.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Do you really consider that victim blaming? I mean come on... Saying she reacted differently to how I think I would react... That isn't victim blaming is it? Come on buddy... Play fair. Stop looking for things that don't exist.
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7mins In the bush 21 Jul 16 4.41pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
That's victim blaming, and it's never appropriate. I said I think I would act differently. The rest was inferred by you. Stop being a precious silly sausage
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Stuk Top half 21 Jul 16 4.43pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
That's victim blaming, and it's never appropriate. Her behaviour afterwards was, and is, weird. I said the same on the day. And she's still not the victim, so stop saying it's "victim blaming". As if questioning anything about the incident is off limits just because she was the girlfriend of the victim. That and blaming the victim are two extremely different things. It's just a crap phrase to chuck in and nothing more. Edited by Stuk (21 Jul 2016 4.43pm)
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Ray in Houston Houston 21 Jul 16 5.02pm | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Her behaviour afterwards was, and is, weird. I said the same on the day. And she's still not the victim, so stop saying it's "victim blaming". As if questioning anything about the incident is off limits just because she was the girlfriend of the victim. That and blaming the victim are two extremely different things. It's just a crap phrase to chuck in and nothing more.
Still, given what has been going on around these police shootings in recent times - where independent video has been the victims' only voice, too many times showing a stark contrast between what happened and what the police said happened - filming the event was clearly the appropriate reaction to her. In that context, live-streaming it also makes sense given that police have often acted to confiscate and suppress such independent video footage.
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