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BlueJay Flag UK 01 Jun 22 6.27pm

Originally posted by W12

Fringe politics? (like the New York Times?)


I'm talking of an overarching check box belief system as a framework of interest and focus. You are an exaggerated opposite of what you criticise.

What I will say though is that I do agree largely with your point that it's those with power and wealth that steer these narratives and seek to divide along, often ridiculous, lines. On the social point, I acknowledge that the more extreme or worrisome a person's politics is the more that wider social detachment will inevitably be true. And that I have no reason to think that you're on the brink of oblivion and certainly encourage you to continue to get out and about to maintain common threads with society. Burst that basement door off it hinges mate! Just saying being part of an actual society is more true to life than online 'worlds' that lack much of what real life and people are actually about.

Edited by BlueJay (01 Jun 2022 6.29pm)

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 01 Jun 22 6.34pm

115 Russian national guard soldiers sacked for refusing to fight in Ukraine - [Link]

"More than 100 Russian national guardsmen have been fired for refusing to fight in Ukraine, court documents show, in what looks to be the clearest indication yet of dissent among some parts of security forces over Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine.

The cases of the 115 national guardsmen, a force also known as Rosgvardia, came to light on Wednesday, after a local Russian court rejected their collective lawsuit that challenged their earlier sacking.

According to the court’s decision, published on its website, the lawsuit was dismissed after the judge determined that the soldiers had been rightfully fired for “refusing to perform an official assignment” to fight in Ukraine and instead returned to a duty station."

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 01 Jun 22 6.35pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by W12

I got where I am by being smart, being able to spot trends which is being good at pattern recognition.

I see modesty is not your strongpoint.

Some of the smartest people I know lack the fundamental basics of common sense, social awareness and empathy. Oh, and they do often have a vastly over inflated belief that leads to them thinking their intelligence and very narrow, very specific expertise applies to everything, when in fact it only really applies to the thing they're good at. Traders are a classic example, although usually they're not often that smart, just ruthless. Over-inflated sense of self worth, ego etc., check.

Segues aside, my point stands. To insinuate that the war and the pandemic were engineered to prevent a systemic collapse is on probability and observation beyond fantasy, for so many reasons, as laid out above.

So is the claim that QE is the main driver behind current inflationary pressure. Plus further seeding every opinion you have with the idea that all of this is being carefully orchestrated and organised by a global cabal, all lined up neatly with each others thinking and without any disagreement or, ironically, independence relative to their own situations. Elite socialism. Utter Balderdash. People in power will always act to protect their own interests but to continue effectively pushing the extremes of this – a la the whole Bilderberg narrative is tiresome.

Edited by SW19 CPFC (01 Jun 2022 6.37pm)

 


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W12 01 Jun 22 6.36pm

This is not good:

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W12 01 Jun 22 6.40pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I see modesty is not your strongpoint.

Some of the smartest people I know lack the fundamental basics of common sense, social awareness and empathy. Oh, and they do often have a vastly over inflated belief that leads to them thinking their intelligence and very narrow, very specific expertise applies to everything, when in fact it only really applies to the thing they're good at. Traders are a classic example, although usually they're not often that smart, just ruthless. Over-inflated sense of self worth, ego etc., check.

Segues aside, my point stands. To insinuate that the war and the pandemic were engineered to prevent a systemic collapse is on probability and observation beyond fantasy, for so many reasons, as laid out above.

So is the claim that QE is the main driver behind current inflationary pressure. Plus further seeding every opinion you have with the idea that all of this is being carefully orchestrated and organised by a global cabal, all lined up neatly with each others thinking and without any disagreement or, ironically, independence relative to their own situations. Elite socialism. Utter Balderdash

You are just playing the man not the ball including going over my old posts to try and dig up whatever you think will discredit me personally and by association any points I’m raising. If that’s your bag then so be it but don’t expect me to engage with it.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 01 Jun 22 6.46pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by W12

You are just playing the man not the ball including going over my old posts to try and dig up whatever you think will discredit me personally and by association any points I’m raising. If that’s your bag then so be it but don’t expect me to engage with it.

Nope, playing both actually. Don't see anything wrong with that based on your general communication style and the content of your 'contributions'.

Also, I don't need to go back over old posts, I have no time for that nonsense. Things that I disagree with or rankle, or that are just downright contradictory tend to stick around.

 


Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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W12 01 Jun 22 6.50pm

This thread is getting very entertaining at least.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 01 Jun 22 7.04pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I see modesty is not your strongpoint.

Some of the smartest people I know lack the fundamental basics of common sense, social awareness and empathy. Oh, and they do often have a vastly over inflated belief that leads to them thinking their intelligence and very narrow, very specific expertise applies to everything, when in fact it only really applies to the thing they're good at. Traders are a classic example, although usually they're not often that smart, just ruthless. Over-inflated sense of self worth, ego etc., check.

Segues aside, my point stands. To insinuate that the war and the pandemic were engineered to prevent a systemic collapse is on probability and observation beyond fantasy, for so many reasons, as laid out above.

So is the claim that QE is the main driver behind current inflationary pressure. Plus further seeding every opinion you have with the idea that all of this is being carefully orchestrated and organised by a global cabal, all lined up neatly with each others thinking and without any disagreement or, ironically, independence relative to their own situations. Elite socialism. Utter Balderdash. People in power will always act to protect their own interests but to continue effectively pushing the extremes of this – a la the whole Bilderberg narrative is tiresome.

Edited by SW19 CPFC (01 Jun 2022 6.37pm)

So you're not a fan of elite theory then.

Where is this claim that elites don't argue amongst themselves? Isn't that what their conferences are for? all groups discuss and argue.....What do you think Musk and others not associating themselves within certain groups is, whereas someone like Gates will?

The point made is that Davos and the associated power structures are driving most of the global policy of western governments.....from suddenly kids eating bugs in schools to 'build back better'....it doesn't just appear out of nowhere.

Apparently most of the western governments all came to the same conclusions on covid, without any external influence at all.....there are hardly any major differences on significant policies....I guess it must all be incidental and just a factor of zoom calls eh.

You seem to want to get lost in the conspiracy weeds...which frankly are neither here nor there. Why not recognise the larger picture.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2022 7.07pm)

 


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The groover Flag Danbury 01 Jun 22 7.12pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

QE has been around for as long as MMT, however comparing it to recent times just isn't looking at the same scales.

80 percent of the US dollars ever printed were printed within the last two years. Obviously confidence factors in as well as other factors but I just can't square your contention.

I don't know how much we did but keeping thirty odd percent of the population at home on welfare for two years must have been massive once it's worked though....and its showing now....The Ukraine is just the cherry on top.

I think the role of QE as the major driver of inflation is unquestionable.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2022 6.24pm)

So QE started in the UK 2009 but its the main driver of inflation in 2022. The fact that we had covid and oil and gas prices have gone though the roof due to this war is not as much a factor as QE.........

Sorry, but that is poppycock.

 

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Matov Flag 01 Jun 22 7.18pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

....from suddenly kids eating bugs in schools to 'build back better'....it doesn't just appear out of nowhere.


Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2022 7.07pm)

I must admit I dismissed all the 'bug eating' stuff as hysteria but am now utterly convinced that it is going to become mainstream policy pushed by the usual suspects.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Stirlingsays Flag 01 Jun 22 7.30pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by The groover

So QE started in the UK 2009 but its the main driver of inflation in 2022. The fact that we had covid and oil and gas prices have gone though the roof due to this war is not as much a factor as QE.........

Sorry, but that is poppycock.

It's like you just ignored all I wrote.

What happened in 2009 doesn't even touch the floor of the QE from 2020.

But cool, you call it poppycock and you can just dismiss it.

 


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Originally posted by W12

This thread is getting very entertaining at least.

Posts on here get more puerile by the day.

 

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